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Post by singupgas on Mar 7, 2024 21:16:39 GMT
I agree ref the atmosphere. Hopefully going to be rocking on Saturday and only 58 seats left in the home area now. Loads of terrace places available though More reason that the new east stand has to be a complete rebuild. Nobody wants to be standing in the wind and rain every week. Can you imagine if they did extend the east stand as it is, there might be nobody on the east terrace. |
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Post by meldrew on Mar 7, 2024 21:38:19 GMT
I have recently purchased my season ticket for the South stand. I will reach the age of 80 in August, had one knee replaced and about to have the second one operated upon. I cannot stand to watch a game for this reason. I recall away matches at the Bescot stadium and also at Home Park where selfish fans stand for the whole game and become abusive when asked to sit down for the benefit of older people and young children. I do not intend to be treated in this way next season and can assure anybody that I will take the necessary action through stewards and if necessary the police.
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Post by aghast on Mar 7, 2024 22:40:17 GMT
You'll never stop the selfish thoughtless actions of quite a few continually standing in front of kids and older people. Talking reasonably to them doesn't work. They either ignore it or take misplaced offence. It's sad but some just don't give a flying fig about others. It's ingrained moronic behaviour. I have no answers. Just shake my head and wonder why they choose to be like they are when standing alternatives are readily available.
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Post by dudelebowski on Mar 7, 2024 22:44:09 GMT
I have recently purchased my season ticket for the South stand. I will reach the age of 80 in August, had one knee replaced and about to have the second one operated upon. I cannot stand to watch a game for this reason. I recall away matches at the Bescot stadium and also at Home Park where selfish fans stand for the whole game and become abusive when asked to sit down for the benefit of older people and young children. I do not intend to be treated in this way next season and can assure anybody that I will take the necessary action through stewards and if necessary the police. Rest assured, almost anyone who wants to stand up will only do so at the back few rows. That was my experience for a couple of games in January anyway. But as I mentioned earlier, the majority of this stand will be season ticket holders next season, especially the blocks nearest the centre, so when Oxford, Pompey etc…come round, potential ‘Thatchers End yoofs’ won’t have the chance to buy tickets in this area from the get go. Anyone snapping up the spares on an Individual match basis who make a beeline for the segregation netting, likely won’t get much chance either when they’re slung out for sitting in someone’s ST seat. |
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Post by gascloud on Mar 8, 2024 7:18:52 GMT
When opposing fans are sat close to each other it can build an atmosphere. But equally encourages over the top posturing and general disorder, which can ruin the experience for others. Difficult balance for the club and stewards.
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Post by wertongas on Mar 8, 2024 8:59:44 GMT
Loads of terrace places available though More reason that the new east stand has to be a complete rebuild. Nobody wants to be standing in the wind and rain every week. Can you imagine if they did extend the east stand as it is, there might be nobody on the east terrace. |
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Post by wertongas on Mar 8, 2024 9:09:59 GMT
Fans won't be standing in the rain after the east side improvements will they . The club want to a stadium that will take championship football,well that means it will HAVE to be all seater.
If the club do what I put in my letter's and TG at the time supported, then it will be two tiers running the full length of the east side with the front bit banked up with seats a bit luke the refurbished Dolman stand at Trashton .
But when I asked TG about the stand recently he said plans were out for consultation to all interested parties, they have not been finalised yet .
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Post by SleepyGas on Mar 8, 2024 9:12:13 GMT
Fans won't be standing in the rain after the east side improvements will they . The club want to a stadium that will take championship football,well that means it will HAVE to be all seater. If the club do what I put in my letter's and TG at the time supported, then it will be two tiers running the full length of the east side with the front bit banked up with seats a bit luke the refurbished Dolman stand at Trashton . But when I asked TG about the stand recently he said plans were out for consultation to all interested parties, they have not been finalised yet . Didn't they suggest in the recent fans forum thing that the Blackthorn End would have an upper tier of seats and a lower tier "safe standing"? |
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Post by wertongas on Mar 8, 2024 9:31:28 GMT
Safe standing can be used in the championship as an alternative to seating, thing is whatever they do to the east it will be under cover like the new South stand.So fans won't be fully open to the elements, which was the point I was trying to make .Extensions should be built in a similar style to the new stand .
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Post by joefrankie on Mar 8, 2024 10:24:42 GMT
Safe standing can be used in the championship as an alternative to seating, thing is whatever they do to the east it will be under cover like the new South stand.So fans won't be fully open to the elements, which was the point I was trying to make .Extensions should be built in a similar style to the new stand . What, temporary, single storey, steel only structures with pillars? |
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Post by singupgas on Mar 8, 2024 11:34:48 GMT
Fans won't be standing in the rain after the east side improvements will they . The club want to a stadium that will take championship football,well that means it will HAVE to be all seater. If the club do what I put in my letter's and TG at the time supported, then it will be two tiers running the full length of the east side with the front bit banked up with seats a bit luke the refurbished Dolman stand at Trashton . But when I asked TG about the stand recently he said plans were out for consultation to all interested parties, they have not been finalised yet . The owners said they are extending the east stand either side. There has been no mention from them about putting seats where the terrace is or extending the roof forward to cover the terrace. I don't think you could just put seats on the terrace as each step is far too narrow. I hope you are right, as I have bored people to death on here. The East side imo needs a complete rebuild and to be built from pitch level. |
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Post by singupgas on Mar 8, 2024 11:41:11 GMT
Safe standing can be used in the championship as an alternative to seating, thing is whatever they do to the east it will be under cover like the new South stand.So fans won't be fully open to the elements, which was the point I was trying to make .Extensions should be built in a similar style to the new stand . This worries me a little. So you are suggesting the East remains as is and either side there will be 2 structures like the south stand. I hope this is not the case. Can we please just do something properly. |
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Post by kruger on Mar 8, 2024 11:51:19 GMT
Safe standing can be used in the championship as an alternative to seating, thing is whatever they do to the east it will be under cover like the new South stand.So fans won't be fully open to the elements, which was the point I was trying to make .Extensions should be built in a similar style to the new stand . This worries me a little. So you are suggesting the East remains as is and either side there will be 2 structures like the south stand. I hope this is not the case. Can we please just do something properly. agreed that would look horrible |
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Post by peterparker on Mar 8, 2024 12:12:06 GMT
Fans won't be standing in the rain after the east side improvements will they . The club want to a stadium that will take championship football,well that means it will HAVE to be all seater. If the club do what I put in my letter's and TG at the time supported, then it will be two tiers running the full length of the east side with the front bit banked up with seats a bit luke the refurbished Dolman stand at Trashton . But when I asked TG about the stand recently he said plans were out for consultation to all interested parties, they have not been finalised yet . The owners said they are extending the east stand either side. There has been no mention from them about putting seats where the terrace is or extending the roof forward to cover the terrace. I don't think you could just put seats on the terrace as each step is far too narrow. I hope you are right, as I have bored people to death on here. The East side imo needs a complete rebuild and to be built from pitch level. I was thinking we would do something like Plymouth did with their stand that had terracing in front. Basically everything gets ripped out and the 'terracing' is rebuilt to hold seating. The stand as is can be gutted, roof removed and refurbished but extended along with metal work, new roof keeping the front loading (Plymouth never extended their stand) www.plymouthherald.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/how-plymouth-argyles-625m-redevelopment-2248441www.plymouthherald.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gallery/latest-look-around-plymouth-argyles-2630870We are all just guessing until we see something tough |
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Post by gasbluesman on Mar 8, 2024 12:29:12 GMT
I imagine this is what will happen. We were told it will be unrecognisable when completed which would suggest we shouldn’t worry about a simple “bolt on”. I don’t think the south stand will be connected to any future development. If we ever get to a point where we get a new west stand then I imagine the SW corner will come down and the south stand will be an away end.
I think you should be able to get rail seating in the terrace spaces, it’ll be tight but QPR got away with it with actual seats. You’ve got 3 years to make improvements once in the championship so I don’t think there will be much rush to do this.
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Post by wertongas on Mar 8, 2024 13:03:46 GMT
No Singupus you cannot put seats directly onto the terrace , that is why we had that stupid little family stand perched on the east terrace, TG told me this,terrace is to shallow.
What you can do is build the same base as for the South stand and install the seating on that . Think it will look alot better than people think . There again the club haven't confirmed any of it and won't until all the interested parties have been consulted and plans finalised . They might fined they have to knock it all down and start again .
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Post by bidefordgas on Mar 8, 2024 13:13:24 GMT
No Singupus you cannot put seats directly onto the terrace , that is why we had that stupid little family stand perched on the east terrace, TG told me this,terrace is to shallow. What you can do is build the same base as for the South stand and install the seating on that . Think it will look alot better than people think . There again the club haven't confirmed any of it and won't until all the interested parties have been consulted and plans finalised . They might fined they have to knock it all down and start again . The club have artist impressions of what the new east stand will look like. I was told this by someone employed by the club who had been shown these. I might add he was pleasantly surprised. |
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Post by phillistine on Mar 8, 2024 14:02:11 GMT
People on this forum frequently make assumptions or guesses and then have meltdowns . |
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Post by seanclevedongas on Mar 8, 2024 14:28:52 GMT
As I said earlier in the thread, lets not get hung up on the detail of this and what it will look like. We will all see the plans in the near future and can debate its merits or shortcomings then.
Too many posting crap and others then thinking its true.
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Post by bristolbluegas on Mar 8, 2024 14:58:28 GMT
Fans won't be standing in the rain after the east side improvements will they . The club want to a stadium that will take championship football,well that means it will HAVE to be all seater. If the club do what I put in my letter's and TG at the time supported, then it will be two tiers running the full length of the east side with the front bit banked up with seats a bit luke the refurbished Dolman stand at Trashton . But when I asked TG about the stand recently he said plans were out for consultation to all interested parties, they have not been finalised yet . Didn't they suggest in the recent fans forum thing that the Blackthorn End would have an upper tier of seats and a lower tier "safe standing"? Yes, Abdulatiff did say that was a part of the plan. I've also heard that from two different sources. The same sources also told me the plan is to pull down the East Stand and rebuild an all seated stand the length of that side which will then 'fold in' to both the South and North Stands, although that bit wasn't confirmed by Abdulatiff! |
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