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Post by supergas on Mar 10, 2024 14:05:37 GMT
Speak for yourself, shorty. 😃 It's the wheelchair access I'd require, has anything been done to address that? Was it ever planned as it looks impossible to me from the stands design? Yes it's in the original plans, two separate areas at the front, one near the away terrace, one by the West Stand
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Post by supergas on Mar 10, 2024 14:24:34 GMT
To be fair the entire New Plough Lane stadium cost £34m for a capacity of 9000+, and whilst the only fully 'modern' new stand is the West Stand (capacity 4267) you can see how we *could* build a decent East Stand for £20m, including all the matchday and non-matchday facilities required (Plough Lane has 750+ banqueting/conferencing spaces, club shop, plus all the required matchday facilities like lots of hospitality suites, changing rooms, inside warm-up areas and media facilities). £20m would almost certainly get us everything we need, and we could follow the AFC-model - build to accommodate everything we want and need, but no need to fit out everything from day one - complete everything you need to generate revenue and then use that revenue to finish off the other parts... You know more than me about New Plough Lane but I understand 3 sides are temporary stands? It was built 3-4 years ago? I’m lead to believe construction costs have largely doubled since covid. As a diyer who had extensive work built since then i understand timber is still twice the price it was and a lot of materials are more expensive as well. However someone in construction would know better than me! A quick google suggests it was a greyhound stadium (the irony!) so there’s probably a lot less destruction required. And of course they didn’t have to worry about still playing there and losing most of their existing facilities for however long it took to build the stand and all the faff and inconvenience that goes with it Our temporary stand cost £3mn alone, so if we say called it £2mn as it was before everything went mad then it would be about £28mn for their main stand. If you’re telling me the whole site was £34mn I feel that reinforces that it’ll be an extension rather than a full rebuild. If it’s £20mn or so for us and we still need to get a North Stand and something in the North West as well then that just reinforces it even more as the North will surely have to be complete rebuild. Three sides are 'temporary' in the sense they are well-built stands that are easily upgradable. It's one of the best ideas any club has had in the last couple of decades - one fully fitted out stand with everything you need and three where you can just get bums on seats (or arms leaning against safe-standing railings). I googled construction costs, materials seem in general to have gone up around 33% since covid but are falling again since their 2022 high - regardless each development like this is bespoke and there are numerous other factors at play - not least we would have to find some construction workers in Bristol who are not currently building student accommodation. Anyway, lots to be learned from AFC Wimbledon, if the club hasn't already they should definitely go and have a look and talk to those involved - it will be of far more benefit vs what they learned at Brighton...
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 10, 2024 14:34:01 GMT
You know more than me about New Plough Lane but I understand 3 sides are temporary stands? It was built 3-4 years ago? I’m lead to believe construction costs have largely doubled since covid. As a diyer who had extensive work built since then i understand timber is still twice the price it was and a lot of materials are more expensive as well. However someone in construction would know better than me! A quick google suggests it was a greyhound stadium (the irony!) so there’s probably a lot less destruction required. And of course they didn’t have to worry about still playing there and losing most of their existing facilities for however long it took to build the stand and all the faff and inconvenience that goes with it Our temporary stand cost £3mn alone, so if we say called it £2mn as it was before everything went mad then it would be about £28mn for their main stand. If you’re telling me the whole site was £34mn I feel that reinforces that it’ll be an extension rather than a full rebuild. If it’s £20mn or so for us and we still need to get a North Stand and something in the North West as well then that just reinforces it even more as the North will surely have to be complete rebuild. Three sides are 'temporary' in the sense they are well-built stands that are easily upgradable. It's one of the best ideas any club has had in the last couple of decades - one fully fitted out stand with everything you need and three where you can just get bums on seats (or arms leaning against safe-standing railings). I googled construction costs, materials seem in general to have gone up around 33% since covid but are falling again since their 2022 high - regardless each development like this is bespoke and there are numerous other factors at play - not least we would have to find some construction workers in Bristol who are not currently building student accommodation. Anyway, lots to be learned from AFC Wimbledon, if the club hasn't already they should definitely go and have a look and talk to those involved - it will be of far more benefit vs what they learned at Brighton... I'd be quite content to follow their example if money for development is tight. Replicate the south stand to replace the north and west and throw the majority of the funds at a really good east stand. Replace the others as and when we can.
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Post by gasonthemount on Mar 10, 2024 19:25:03 GMT
Only 13 seats left in south/southwest stands this morning, so apart from segregation it should be bouncing, hopefully only on the home side. I sat in the south stand yesterday for the first time only because I’ve done my Achilles and wasn’t sure about manoeuvring myself up and down the terraces of the thatchers. There’s still no stalls in the concourse yet , all they had was a mobile bar with two serving it took 15 minutes to get served and there were only 20 people in front of me when I joined the queue. The seating is very cramped , I’m only 5,9 and my knees were touching the seat in front of me which actually made my legs and achillies ache as well. Anyone taller than me would have found it even more cramped and if you’re over 6 ft then I’d forget it as there were blokes that tall sat on the diagonal luckily for them it wasn’t quite a sell out as if every seat had been full they literally wouldn’t have been able to sit down. The atmosphere was extremely quiet where I was sat , could only hear the derby fans who were loud. All in all not impressed with it at all , I suppose it’s increased the capacity which is good but I’ve got literally no other positives to say really. Really surprised at your comments about the leg room. The South Stand has the best leg room in the whole stadium. The West and East stands are only suitable for fans who are below average height. There were 4 food and drinks outlets yesterday and additional temporary toilets had been brought in. I am sure this will all be sorted for next season. As for the atmosphere what do you expect when you are losing 0-3 at home. In other matches it has been quite lively. Looking forward to next season when the stand will be filled with S/T holders.
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Post by GasAttacK on Mar 11, 2024 13:59:13 GMT
I know the new South / SW Stand was supposed to have 10+ disabled spaces split between home and away sections.
Are these in use yet?
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Post by gas2 on Mar 11, 2024 14:17:40 GMT
Iwould build anew West stand and North stand I the same way as the South stand then build a massive East stand with corperate boxes and other money making things
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Post by gasbluesman on Mar 12, 2024 9:46:36 GMT
Is it possibly time to bring back that family stand tent but put it towards the south east? Give up a bit more terrace to away fans so they have seating and terrace options. This way the whole south stand can be home fans only.
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Post by supergas on Mar 12, 2024 11:28:35 GMT
I know the new South / SW Stand was supposed to have 10+ disabled spaces split between home and away sections. Are these in use yet? Not that I've seen yet....they're supposed to be right at the front
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Post by GasAttacK on Mar 12, 2024 13:11:41 GMT
I know the new South / SW Stand was supposed to have 10+ disabled spaces split between home and away sections. Are these in use yet? Not that I've seen yet....they're supposed to be right at the front View AttachmentThanks. Yes, unfortunately they were always likely to be at the front. Looks like they're supposed to be in the SW corner which probably makes sense. I wonder why they're not in use yet. Maybe they can't use them until they get 100% capacity passed.
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Post by supergas on Mar 13, 2024 9:17:40 GMT
Not that I've seen yet....they're supposed to be right at the front View AttachmentThanks. Yes, unfortunately they were always likely to be at the front. Looks like they're supposed to be in the SW corner which probably makes sense. I wonder why they're not in use yet. Maybe they can't use them until they get 100% capacity passed. Just looking at the plans vs the photos I don't think they moved the pitch as far north as planned this season - as it stands they definitely couldn't fit the spaces in safely as per the plans, they would almost be up to the goal-line.
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Post by nsgas on Mar 20, 2024 18:14:23 GMT
The club don't appear to be selling tickets in Block G for any of the remaining home matches. Anybody know why, and if this is going to change? I've been holding off buying tickets for the Shrewsbury match on Easter Monday for a couple of weeks now waiting for Block G to become available.
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