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Post by The Equaliser on Sept 12, 2023 20:27:24 GMT
Hey Jude! Reminiscent of Zidane 20 years ago. Wow!
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Post by wallywalters on Sept 12, 2023 20:44:43 GMT
I genuinely didn't realise how good he is until tonight. The best player we've produced since gazza imo. Let's hope his career keeps an upward trajectory
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Post by socrates on Sept 12, 2023 21:09:49 GMT
We’ve got one world class striker in Kane but not much in the way of back up , could field three sides with the amount of attacking midfielders we have but we’ve got a lack of depth in defensive midfield.
Our full backs are decent enough , Walker is world class shaw when fit is too but again not much cover.
In central defence other than stones none of them look world class although dunk was quality tonight albeit v Scotland so there’s hope there.
We’ve got a leadership void in the squad .
Harry Kane captain ?
Wasn’t even first choice captain at spurs.
Decent squad but lacks balance and I think Southgate has had us punching above our weight up until now.
The thing is our squad is young and hopefully the likes of Bellingham or rice are our future leaders we’ll see.
Comparing this squad to our other reasonably successful squads of for example 90 or 96 almost every player in those teams were either captain or vice captain of their clubs.
You’ve got to have leaders in a major tournament.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Sept 12, 2023 21:17:47 GMT
I wasn't at all surprised by tonight's result. We have done really well against 3rd world countries in the last 10 years....
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Post by trevorgas on Sept 12, 2023 21:22:41 GMT
Bellingham and Foden drip class,have to start every game, Southgate must see that.🙄🙄 I believe they are both generational talents, along with Stones, Rice and spearheaded for a few more years by Harry we genuinely have a chance to win something if we take it to the opposition - no matter who the opponent are or what stage in competitions. Totally agree,my worry is Southgate is too cautious,waits to see what happens,we're good enough to dominate the opposition,set our stall out from the start |
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Post by dudelebowski on Sept 13, 2023 8:17:46 GMT
Unreal day/night that one. Atmosphere cranked up to the max, pure hatred on show, before silencing them with 2 in 2mins.
They’ve done well of late, but the level was there for all to see. A real humbling on their own patch, was bloody brilliant.
The away Double header is over, back to club duties & giving my insides a rest from terrible lager & very bad food.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Sept 13, 2023 9:22:41 GMT
It's all good until we play anyone half decent..
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Post by heartofgas on Sept 13, 2023 9:32:21 GMT
Bellingham is one hell of a player. when you look at the current generation coming through it's unreal. Bellingham, Foden, Grealish, Saka. Real quality. Kane is true class too. He holds the ball up so well, defenders rarely get the ball of him. His finish was class.
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Post by heartofgas on Sept 13, 2023 9:37:31 GMT
It's all good until we play anyone half decent.. To be fair, Scotland are pretty decent at the moment. They are on a long run of good form and have some decent players now. Probably the best Scottish team since the 80s. As for England, aside from the Hungary thrashing, they have been pretty much matching any top team. And that's with Gareth's insistence on playing Maguire and Henderson. |
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Post by dudelebowski on Sept 13, 2023 9:55:01 GMT
It's all good until we play anyone half decent.. To be fair, Scotland are pretty decent at the moment. They are on a long run of good form and have some decent players now. Probably the best Scottish team since the 80s. As for England, aside from the Hungary thrashing, they have been pretty much matching any top team. And that's with Gareth's insistence on playing Maguire and Henderson. It’s always the same, no matter who beat it’s always “oh it’s only…” or some straw clutching reason for the win to be insignificant. Haters can keep on hating. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Sept 13, 2023 9:58:16 GMT
To be fair, Scotland are pretty decent at the moment. They are on a long run of good form and have some decent players now. Probably the best Scottish team since the 80s. As for England, aside from the Hungary thrashing, they have been pretty much matching any top team. And that's with Gareth's insistence on playing Maguire and Henderson. It’s always the same, no matter who beat it’s always “oh it’s only…” or some straw clutching reason for the win to be insignificant. Haters can keep on hating. Always gonna happen unless they finally bring home a trophy. They have the players, always have, now more than ever. |
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Post by mariobalotelli on Sept 13, 2023 10:51:05 GMT
To be fair, Scotland are pretty decent at the moment. They are on a long run of good form and have some decent players now. Probably the best Scottish team since the 80s. As for England, aside from the Hungary thrashing, they have been pretty much matching any top team. And that's with Gareth's insistence on playing Maguire and Henderson. It’s always the same, no matter who beat it’s always “oh it’s only…” or some straw clutching reason for the win to be insignificant. Haters can keep on hating. Ah we beat Scotland. Southgate in! With the exception of Germany(awful for years) he has bottled every game that mattered but because he beats all the teams we should beat he's doing great. |
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Post by dudelebowski on Sept 13, 2023 11:22:14 GMT
😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄
Roll on Germany ‘24
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Post by lastminutewinner on Sept 13, 2023 13:32:54 GMT
Can't believe Maguire has more minutes and goals for England this season that he has for Man Utd
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Post by yattongas on Sept 13, 2023 13:54:29 GMT
Can't believe Maguire has more minutes and goals for England this season that he has for Man Utd Don’t think we’ll see much more of Maguire going forward . |
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Post by eric on Sept 13, 2023 14:12:59 GMT
I’ve had a lot of sympathy for Maguire and his poor treatment in the past year or so but he’s done himself no favours by staying at Man U. He was, and still could be, a very good player for club and country if he’d signed for West Ham but instead put money ahead of career. Southgate keeps compounding things by picking him and setting him up for abuse.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Sept 13, 2023 14:49:08 GMT
I’ve had a lot of sympathy for Maguire and his poor treatment in the past year or so but he’s done himself no favours by staying at Man U. He was, and still could be, a very good player for club and country if he’d signed for West Ham but instead put money ahead of career. Southgate keeps compounding things by picking him and setting him up for abuse. Southgate seems intent on playing players that hardly feature for their club, Phillips being another one. Then there is Jordan Henderson playing in a camel league, albeit a rich one. When it comes to the crunch games against quality sides are these players going to be ready to compete to the best of their ability? |
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Post by The Equaliser on Sept 13, 2023 15:30:59 GMT
I’m going against the grain here.
I think Harry Maguire is an excellent player for England, composed, great passer, reads the game well, organises those around him, and I can’t think of many better at heading the ball. All about opinions I suppose 👍🏾
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Post by dudelebowski on Sept 13, 2023 15:42:32 GMT
I’m going against the grain here. I think Harry Maguire is an excellent player for England, composed, great passer, reads the game well, organises those around him, and I can’t think of many better at heading the ball. All about opinions I suppose 👍🏾 Couldn’t agree more. |
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Post by eric on Sept 13, 2023 17:17:00 GMT
I’m going against the grain here. I think Harry Maguire is an excellent player for England, composed, great passer, reads the game well, organises those around him, and I can’t think of many better at heading the ball. All about opinions I suppose 👍🏾 How long would you carry on picking him for England if he is not playing any club football and losing match fitness/sharpness with every passing week? |
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