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Post by percy on May 15, 2023 6:56:02 GMT
Retained list. What I expect to see (assuming no contracted players publicly told to go!)
Under contract:
Belshaw, Ward, Hoole, Gibbons, Connolly, Gordon, Rossiter, Finley, McCormick, Evans, Loft, Marquis, Collins, Sinclair, Jones, Greenslade, Lawerence
Released / Retired:
Jaakola, Rodman, Coutts, Whelan, Anderson, McDonald , Clarke, Egan (assume not under contract)
Loans returned:
Coburn, Balcombe, Gibson, Bogarde, Quansah
Offered deals
Ward, Grant,
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Post by scdave on May 15, 2023 7:03:52 GMT
I expect Heal, Egan and Jones will get released, (If they were not released throughout the season) but have we given pro contracts to any of the youth team?
Last season Lawrence and Greenslade were given two year contracts.
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Post by percy on May 15, 2023 7:23:16 GMT
I expect Heal, Egan and Jones will get released, (If they were not released throughout the season) but have we given pro contracts to any of the youth team? Last season Lawrence and Greenslade were given two year contracts. Forgot about Heale! Hopefully there are at least a couple of youngsters given pro contracts again |
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Post by gasandelectricity on May 15, 2023 7:24:27 GMT
Isn’t jones out of contract this year?
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Post by percy on May 15, 2023 7:25:03 GMT
Isn’t jones out of contract this year? You could be right. Will be a shame if he is let go. Had promise |
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Post by hollyhillgas on May 15, 2023 9:25:39 GMT
Retained list. What I expect to see (assuming no contracted players publicly told to go!) Under contract: Belshaw, Ward, Hoole, Gibbons, Connolly, Gordon, Rossiter, Finley, McCormick, Evans, Loft, Marquis, Collins, Sinclair, Jones, Greenslade, Lawerence Released / Retired: Jaakola, Rodman, Coutts, Whelan, Anderson, McDonald , Clarke, Egan (assume not under contract) Loans returned: Coburn, Balcombe, Gibson, Bogarde, Quansah Offered deals Ward, Grant, I thought McDonald showed enough to be offered a short deal. Hoole and Gordan could attract interest from better paying clubs. Bolton must have been impressed by them. |
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Post by percy on May 15, 2023 9:27:41 GMT
Retained list. What I expect to see (assuming no contracted players publicly told to go!) Under contract: Belshaw, Ward, Hoole, Gibbons, Connolly, Gordon, Rossiter, Finley, McCormick, Evans, Loft, Marquis, Collins, Sinclair, Jones, Greenslade, Lawerence Released / Retired: Jaakola, Rodman, Coutts, Whelan, Anderson, McDonald , Clarke, Egan (assume not under contract) Loans returned: Coburn, Balcombe, Gibson, Bogarde, Quansah Offered deals Ward, Grant, I thought McDonald showed enough to be offered a short deal. Hoole and Gordan could attract interest from better paying clubs. I’m not sure McDonald did enough. No better than Clarke for me. Hopefully Hoole wants to continue to make his name here, would be a shame to lose him and I’d want £1m for him if we were to sell |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2023 11:15:52 GMT
Retained list. What I expect to see (assuming no contracted players publicly told to go!) Under contract: Belshaw, Ward, Hoole, Gibbons, Connolly, Gordon, Rossiter, Finley, McCormick, Evans, Loft, Marquis, Collins, Sinclair, Jones, Greenslade, Lawerence Released / Retired: Jaakola, Rodman, Coutts, Whelan, Anderson, McDonald , Clarke, Egan (assume not under contract) Loans returned: Coburn, Balcombe, Gibson, Bogarde, Quansah Offered deals Ward, Grant, Worryingly I think you might be spot on here .... I think That squad under contract are nowhere near good enough for a top half L1 finish let alone pushing on to higher levels. Personally I am hoping that JB is genuine in wanting to improve the squad and has told Loft to find a new club ... I would also add McCormick and Connolly but beyond unlikely that JB will suggest he has made errors in signing these. |
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Post by CornishPasty_Gas on May 15, 2023 11:25:02 GMT
Spot on...
McCormick, Connolly, Coutts, Loft etc etc are not good enough for top end of L1 - i'm doubting the majority of others are too - but I'm not a football manager.
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Post by percy on May 15, 2023 11:48:01 GMT
Retained list. What I expect to see (assuming no contracted players publicly told to go!) Under contract: Belshaw, Ward, Hoole, Gibbons, Connolly, Gordon, Rossiter, Finley, McCormick, Evans, Loft, Marquis, Collins, Sinclair, Jones, Greenslade, Lawerence Released / Retired: Jaakola, Rodman, Coutts, Whelan, Anderson, McDonald , Clarke, Egan (assume not under contract) Loans returned: Coburn, Balcombe, Gibson, Bogarde, Quansah Offered deals Ward, Grant, Worryingly I think you might be spot on here .... I think That squad under contract are nowhere near good enough for a top half L1 finish let alone pushing on to higher levels. Personally I am hoping that JB is genuine in wanting to improve the squad and has told Loft to find a new club ... I would also add McCormick and Connolly but beyond unlikely that JB will suggest he has made errors in signing these. I think having 14 senior players under contract is a good place to be. We definitely need to upgrade in a couple of areas to challenge, then it’s up to those already here to fight for a place or just provide back up. Wouldn’t let Connolly go yet. |
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Post by stuart1974 on May 15, 2023 12:25:28 GMT
Worryingly I think you might be spot on here .... I think That squad under contract are nowhere near good enough for a top half L1 finish let alone pushing on to higher levels. Personally I am hoping that JB is genuine in wanting to improve the squad and has told Loft to find a new club ... I would also add McCormick and Connolly but beyond unlikely that JB will suggest he has made errors in signing these. I think having 14 senior players under contract is a good place to be. We definitely need to upgrade in a couple of areas to challenge, then it’s up to those already here to fight for a place or just provide back up. Wouldn’t let Connolly go yet. I agree, it's not as though those players have never performed, it's recently and lack of consistency. Whilst several First XI places are up for grabs, they are decent squad members and can do a job. Too much overhauling of the playing staff isn't necessary an improvement. |
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Post by eric on May 15, 2023 13:02:34 GMT
Spot on... McCormick, Connolly, Coutts, Loft etc etc are not good enough for top end of L1 - i'm doubting the majority of others are too - but I'm not a football manager. Way too soon to be writing off McCormick and Connolly imo. |
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Post by Quarters on May 15, 2023 13:11:33 GMT
Spot on... McCormick, Connolly, Coutts, Loft etc etc are not good enough for top end of L1 - i'm doubting the majority of others are too - but I'm not a football manager. Way too soon to be writing off McCormick and Connolly imo. Seem to recall Rossitor was written off by some at the start. Loft was, no good, good, no good. All in one season. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 15, 2023 13:25:30 GMT
I am really surprised by McCormick this season, he only seems to get booked and does little else. I know he had a limited pre season which Joey keeps mentioning but that would have only impacted the first month or so of the season surely?
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Post by fanboy on May 15, 2023 13:31:38 GMT
Spot on... McCormick, Connolly, Coutts, Loft etc etc are not good enough for top end of L1 - i'm doubting the majority of others are too - but I'm not a football manager. If we are to be a club that develops young players and sells on at a profit, then we need to have some patience. McCormick is 24, Connolly is 21, even Ryan Loft is 25. If these players came through our own youth setup people would have far more interest in their development. I'm not saying we need to wait forever for a player to step up, but I think all three of the above deserve another season and have shown promise (McCormick prior to last season). Genuinely thought Loft came in at the start of last season looking sharp, and was a huge loss he got injured when he did. |
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Post by Beer Baron on May 15, 2023 13:47:55 GMT
Best signing we could make this summer is a reputable defensive coach imo, think could make a huge difference to the existing players along with the inevitable young defensive loanees. I feel many of the goals we conceded could have potentially been avoided if there was a specialist consistently working with the defenders.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 16, 2023 7:41:47 GMT
Spot on... McCormick, Connolly, Coutts, Loft etc etc are not good enough for top end of L1 - i'm doubting the majority of others are too - but I'm not a football manager. Way too soon to be writing off McCormick and Connolly imo. Glad i read the entire thread for once as i think the same and i cannot see us taking the big hit that would come with getting shot of McCormick. |
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Post by percy on May 16, 2023 7:53:39 GMT
The likes of Connolly and McCormick and maybe even Loft have the raw ability and potential, time for Joey and the whole coaching staff to show what they can do. Hoole has grown considerably in the last 2 years so we know they can do it. Cant be throwing money away yet on at least two of these.
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Post by singupgas on May 16, 2023 11:36:15 GMT
The likes of Connolly and McCormick and maybe even Loft have the raw ability and potential, time for Joey and the whole coaching staff to show what they can do. Hoole has grown considerably in the last 2 years so we know they can do it. Cant be throwing money away yet on at least two of these. Yes. I also disagree with some on saying they aren't good enough, players need to continue to be coached. Joey has a lot of work to bring players that are better than the ones leaving, out of contract/loans. We need to bring in players genuinely good enough to be starting every week. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2023 11:54:39 GMT
I get that it would be nice to develop Connolly and McCormick and Loft - lovely ! but there is not the time if we are genuinely looking to improve as quickly as this next season ....
All are great guys i imagine but in the games i attended - (every home game and a dozen or so away)
Connolly at times looked absolutely awful : when passed the ball he looked scared to death - even Belly used to shout at him to move it quicker rather than roll it along the back line. Stumbled around in the box at corners causing mayhem and lost his man in numerous occasions. He will need an absolute rock next to him constantly encouraging him and telling him what to do. Unless he improves dramatically he will be a huge liability in our defensive line.
McCormick - Just didn't see anything of him at all, even in the small cameo performances - maybe JB can get him fired up as i do remember an energetic raw young talent that ran his heart out for us when first here. Would love him to come good.
Loft - Hard working, tough, can give it as well as take it - good for a scrap but not a skilled striker - Personally I think he could make a superb Centre Half - Genuinely.
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