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Aug 20, 2023 8:01:03 GMT
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Aug 20, 2023 8:01:03 GMT
If the Gas did offer a million Peterborough would be mad not to take it imo. If that is true, big if, that’s showing the Gas as a real player, and a club determined to get out of league one, the right end, sooner rather than later. We need a striker of his quality especially after watching that performance yesterday.
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Post by pirate on Aug 20, 2023 8:18:03 GMT
If the Gas did offer a million Peterborough would be mad not to take it imo. If that is true, big if, that’s showing the Gas as a real player, and a club determined to get out of league one, the right end, sooner rather than later. We need a striker of his quality especially after watching that performance yesterday. Surely JCH would just wait 7 days and then buy himself out of the last year of his contract for £317,200 and then negotiate a big signing on fee with his next club?
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Aug 20, 2023 8:25:38 GMT
Post by Qatar Gas on Aug 20, 2023 8:25:38 GMT
Well spotted Topper. That to me could be pulling power to get a good deal for JCH and maybe why League One clubs have been enquiring as they feel they've got a good chance with Peterboroughs finance situation. There are not many league one clubs who would currently offer 1m plus for players. Peterborough were one of them, but looks like no more. Portsmouth don't normally pay that much. The bigger teams in the league this season have had recent financial issues, Bolton, Wigan, Reading, Derby. Maybe Charlton with their new owners would pay? JCH hasn't done that well at Championship level, but if he were available for 1m or 1.5m that could still tempt some of the lower Championship clubs to make an offer.
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Aug 20, 2023 8:43:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2023 8:43:27 GMT
He’s on a rumoured 7.5k a week at Posh. I doubt Rovers are paying that much.
McAnthony won’t sell to a league one rival for peanuts either, he’ll wait it out and lose him for free if he has to; JCH could be the difference between them going up or staying down.
I suspect he may end up available on a free next summer where he k owns the wages on offer will be more
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Post by pirate on Aug 20, 2023 8:50:01 GMT
He’s on a rumoured 7.5k a week at Posh. I doubt Rovers are paying that much. McAnthony won’t sell to a league one rival for peanuts either, he’ll wait it out and lose him for free if he has to; JCH could be the difference between them going up or staying down. I suspect he may end up available on a free next summer where he k owns the wages on offer will be more He's on £6,100 per week at Peterborough and in 7 days enters the last year of a 4-year contract hence being able to then buy himself out of the last year of his contract for £317,200 as per Article 17 of FIFA's Transfer Regulations.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 20, 2023 8:57:34 GMT
Well spotted Topper. That to me could be pulling power to get a good deal for JCH and maybe why League One clubs have been enquiring as they feel they've got a good chance with Peterboroughs finance situation. The Credit should go to Pucklegas for mentioning it.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 20, 2023 9:02:58 GMT
He’s on a rumoured 7.5k a week at Posh. I doubt Rovers are paying that much. McAnthony won’t sell to a league one rival for peanuts either, he’ll wait it out and lose him for free if he has to; JCH could be the difference between them going up or staying down. I suspect he may end up available on a free next summer where he k owns the wages on offer will be more He's on £6,100 per week at Peterborough and in 7 days enters the last year of a 4-year contract hence being able to then buy himself out of the last year of his contract for £317,200 as per Article 17 of FIFA's Transfer Regulations. Odd then that we've never come across a player before worth £1m+ who's suddenly available for a lot less in the final year of their contract, plus surely JCH would tell DM he's not going anywhere til September so forget talking about receiving a transfer feem
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Aug 20, 2023 9:15:04 GMT
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Post by playtowin on Aug 20, 2023 9:15:04 GMT
He’s on a rumoured 7.5k a week at Posh. I doubt Rovers are paying that much. McAnthony won’t sell to a league one rival for peanuts either, he’ll wait it out and lose him for free if he has to; JCH could be the difference between them going up or staying down. I suspect he may end up available on a free next summer where he k owns the wages on offer will be more He's on £6,100 per week at Peterborough and in 7 days enters the last year of a 4-year contract hence being able to then buy himself out of the last year of his contract for £317,200 as per Article 17 of FIFA's Transfer Regulations. If he just happens to have £317,200 lying around. Thats a lot of money .
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Aug 20, 2023 9:21:54 GMT
Post by Qatar Gas on Aug 20, 2023 9:21:54 GMT
He's on £6,100 per week at Peterborough and in 7 days enters the last year of a 4-year contract hence being able to then buy himself out of the last year of his contract for £317,200 as per Article 17 of FIFA's Transfer Regulations. If he just happens to have £317,200 lying around. Thats a lot of money . That's also quite a rare thing to happen? Don't see many lower league players doing that. Also does he actually want to leave? Only a hand full of league one clubs would offer him the same wage. Although I don't know if at any point Peterborough offered him a new deal to extend his contract?
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Aug 20, 2023 9:23:02 GMT
Post by phillistine on Aug 20, 2023 9:23:02 GMT
He's on £6,100 per week at Peterborough and in 7 days enters the last year of a 4-year contract hence being able to then buy himself out of the last year of his contract for £317,200 as per Article 17 of FIFA's Transfer Regulations. If he just happens to have £317,200 lying around. Thats a lot of money . so whats to stop him buying up his own contract and when he signs for a new club negotiating an additional £317,200 to his signing on fee? If that is the case then that has to affect the posh valuation
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Aug 20, 2023 9:24:22 GMT
Post by pirate on Aug 20, 2023 9:24:22 GMT
He's on £6,100 per week at Peterborough and in 7 days enters the last year of a 4-year contract hence being able to then buy himself out of the last year of his contract for £317,200 as per Article 17 of FIFA's Transfer Regulations. Odd then that we've never come across a player before worth £1m+ who's suddenly available for a lot less in the final year of their contract, plus surely JCH would tell DM he's not going anywhere til September so forget talking about receiving a transfer feem Other than Andy Webster, several players have taken advantage of Article 17 according to the Wiki article, including Tony Sylva and Jonás Gutiérrez. When Lewandowski was looking to join Barcelona there was talk of him invoking article 17, but reports in press said he decided against it because of his relationship with Bayern Munich. Was talk of it previously in a Neymar transfer too. Attachment Deleted
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Aug 20, 2023 9:28:14 GMT
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Post by jungleboogie on Aug 20, 2023 9:28:14 GMT
Odd then that we've never come across a player before worth £1m+ who's suddenly available for a lot less in the final year of their contract, plus surely JCH would tell DM he's not going anywhere til September so forget talking about receiving a transfer feem Other than Andy Webster, several players have taken advantage of Article 17 according to the Wiki article, including Tony Sylva and Jonás Gutiérrez. When Lewandowski was looking to leave Barcelona there was talk of him invoking article 17, but reports in press said he decided against it because of his relationship with Bayern Munich. Was talk of it previously in a Neymar transfer too. View AttachmentSo 3 players out of god knows how many 000’s of transfers and you’re banging on about it as if it’s a normal and JCH would be crazy not to do it??
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Aug 20, 2023 9:33:53 GMT
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Post by pirate on Aug 20, 2023 9:33:53 GMT
Other than Andy Webster, several players have taken advantage of Article 17 according to the Wiki article, including Tony Sylva and Jonás Gutiérrez. When Lewandowski was looking to leave Barcelona there was talk of him invoking article 17, but reports in press said he decided against it because of his relationship with Bayern Munich. Was talk of it previously in a Neymar transfer too. View AttachmentSo 3 players out of god knows how many 000’s of transfers and you’re banging on about it as if it’s a normal and JCH would be crazy not to do it?? It's just the 3 that I can find, probably more that have gone under the radar. If it's possible, why would JCH not do it and benefit from a higher signing on fee??? If I was him and his lawyers I would certainly be looking into it.
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Post by madgas on Aug 20, 2023 9:38:34 GMT
I don't think many of us have a year's salary to risk to change our jobs?
I'm not sure too many banks would lend the cash on the basis that he wanted to end his current contract.
Any inflated signing on fee would be looked on as collusion.
Seems theoretical rather than plausible.
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 20, 2023 9:52:50 GMT
So 3 players out of god knows how many 000’s of transfers and you’re banging on about it as if it’s a normal and JCH would be crazy not to do it?? It's just the 3 that I can find, probably more that have gone under the radar. If it's possible, why would JCH not do it and benefit from a higher signing on fee??? If I was him and his lawyers I would certainly be looking into it. Are there not other rules to stop players doing it though?? For example, you can't sign for another club straight away. Or you can't receive a signing on fee bigger than what you pay off. Or you have to prove you paid it and hit another club etc. Or you have to be not starting games etc. Just guessing, as I've never heard of this happening before and didn't think it would be that easy. When Kane wanted to leave, Spurs were playing hard ball and there was no mention of this rule. He was stuck there for years.
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Aug 20, 2023 10:48:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2023 10:48:43 GMT
He’s on a rumoured 7.5k a week at Posh. I doubt Rovers are paying that much. McAnthony won’t sell to a league one rival for peanuts either, he’ll wait it out and lose him for free if he has to; JCH could be the difference between them going up or staying down. I suspect he may end up available on a free next summer where he k owns the wages on offer will be more He's on £6,100 per week at Peterborough and in 7 days enters the last year of a 4-year contract hence being able to then buy himself out of the last year of his contract for £317,200 as per Article 17 of FIFA's Transfer Regulations. He’s simply not going to do that though is he? Nobody ever does do they?
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Aug 20, 2023 11:04:05 GMT
Post by Kipper on Aug 20, 2023 11:04:05 GMT
Signing JCH would be a risk as the player is rather injury prone!
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Aug 20, 2023 11:08:42 GMT
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Post by oasisgas on Aug 20, 2023 11:08:42 GMT
Signing JCH would be a risk as the player is rather injury prone! 53 games last season, 42 the season before and 49 in his first season there suggest that's not really the case.
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Aug 20, 2023 11:08:50 GMT
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Post by pirate on Aug 20, 2023 11:08:50 GMT
It's just the 3 that I can find, probably more that have gone under the radar. If it's possible, why would JCH not do it and benefit from a higher signing on fee??? If I was him and his lawyers I would certainly be looking into it. Are there not other rules to stop players doing it though?? For example, you can't sign for another club straight away. Or you can't receive a signing on fee bigger than what you pay off. Or you have to prove you paid it and hit another club etc. Or you have to be not starting games etc. Just guessing, as I've never heard of this happening before and didn't think it would be that easy. When Kane wanted to leave, Spurs were playing hard ball and there was no mention of this rule. He was stuck there for years. I think it is a complicated process which puts off the player/club from going down that route, but with a player like JCH it seems to me the only likely compensation payable would be the years contract and wouldn't matter if you received a signing on fee bigger than what you pay off. That is for the lawyers to determine though and beyond my understanding. As for Kane, Article 17 was mentioned at the time of him being linked with Man City (apologies for linking to a Sun article)...
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Aug 20, 2023 11:09:17 GMT
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Post by pirate on Aug 20, 2023 11:09:17 GMT
He's on £6,100 per week at Peterborough and in 7 days enters the last year of a 4-year contract hence being able to then buy himself out of the last year of his contract for £317,200 as per Article 17 of FIFA's Transfer Regulations. He’s simply not going to do that though is he? Nobody ever does do they? Andy Webster did.
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