JCH

"1. No you don't know that. That's what we've been told. You don't know it's true."

We have been told by Peterborough that we didn't get the paperwork in on time. We have been told by Bristol Rovers that "This morning an EFL representative confirmed that our contract application for Jonson Clarke-Harris was rejected."

Why would the EFL reject our contract application? It can only be one of two things. It was either submitted incorrectly or submitted late.

I would rather take the information from two parties to the deal and believe what has been said. The EFL rejected the application, Peterborough say it was submitted late. Bristol Rovers haven't actually said why it was rejected. This silence has started a whole heap of questions/conspiracies as to whether Bristol Rovers wanted to do the deal. Rovers should have just said the reason why it was rejected.

I am happy to believe what two sources tell me that are in opposite camps. I have taken the information offered from both sides, why would you not believe both parties?

We could get into some sort of existential discussion about what is truth, is that where you are going with this?

2. "Get planning permission before taking down the stand that was already there". I disagree. If we leave the old one up it's less pressure on the council to get a move on.

Why would this add pressure to the council? They don't give a flying if it was built or not, I can't see how taking it down has put pressure on BCC.

It has put pressure on the football club, definitely.

"Avoid Football league fines due to not having 200 seats for away fans" Have we incurred a fine?

No, we haven't incurred a fine due to the temporary stand that was in place for the Lincoln game. We will need to keep using that temporary stand for future home games until the South stand is in place. We would be able to use the South Stand for away fans but my understanding is that there will need to be a couple of test events before it is fully operational.

How much do you think it is to hire that stand? £2k?

"If so will it be more than made up for by the additional money we make when the new stand is open?"

This is an interesting point. As a Thatchers end season ticket holder, I thought the Thatchers end was pretty empty for the Lincoln game. We put it down to people still being on holiday.

We had a crowd of 10,086 for the final game of last season. this season we have had:

Barnsley - 7927 (8816)
Wycombe - 7951 (8533)
Lincoln - 7674 (8078)

Last season attendance in brackets.

So, without the South Stand as it was. We seem to be losing around 500 fans, £20 each? So £10k a game?

Once the South Stand is built, lets say for the Fleetwood game 8829 is the number to beat from last season. Otherwise, they should have kept the tent stand up until starting to build.

"Liaise with the local authorities and local residents at the same time as putting in the planning permission request. I'm glad they didn't liaise with local residents. Where has that got us in the past?"

Um. Didn't it get us planning permission to completely redevelop the stadium?

bristolroversmemorabilia.weebly.com/the-mem-redevelopment.html

Its pretty good resource as to historic ground stuff. I also recommend viewing is not for the faint hearted as there are pages of What could have been :-(.


""When making the planning request, do the correct paperwork". Ah, this old chestnut. This was put about by the councillor who is objecting to what we are doing. There is no evidence that that was the case at all."

OK, you are right. There is no evidence for this.

There is a section here on the Bristol Post that has a time line on it (in two minds if this is trust worthy or not)

www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/huge-support-bristol-rovers-plan-8677192

We announced the stand to the fans on the 28th April

www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2023/april/south-stand/

Then in late June BCC formally register the application.

Whether this was due to an issue with the original application process, or Bristol City Council shafting us, I'm not sure we know.

There has been mention of BNP Paribas helping us with the application process, I couldn't tell you if that was true or not.

"I guess what irritates me is fans who seem to always assume we have done something wrong."

Well, they do when on the 'balance of probabilities' they have. 'balance of probabilities' is what makes us all different, we have different views on thing. Not wanting to harp on about domestic violence, but for me, the balance of probabilities in my mind points to he did it.

I really appreciate the backing of the club at all times. Its fantastic, however we do need some accountability. Otherwise there is a chance we might no longer have a club to support.

"I'll go back to my point i made about 5 pages ago, what is the point of carrying on with this thread. Nothing new is going to be discussed. everyone has decided their position."

So, you don't need to respond. Its ok that you find the thread has nothing new to be discussed. However others disagree. If others want to carry on, then that is just freedom of speech which we should all be proud of that we have. 
 

157 pages on a player that isn't ours wow

JCH or (insert your name or names) would have been expected to score at least double figures, or ideally that golden 20 goals mark.

I don't see AE, JM, AC, LT or SS scoring individually those amounts, so they'll have to distribute that allocation between them as a bare minimum.

I can actually see the method in the madness that at only 5 goals each, they accomplish a good jch score per season.

... backed up with others behind them, like Grant last week, and the odd Taylor goal we know he's got in him.....as an optimistic post, goalscoring might not be the problem we have until next transfer window.

The problem is getting the defence coordination and team gelling asap, especially when pitches and weather gets harder, to halt a disaster of a great relegation battle of 2024.

So we save a cool £1m and play as a team..

But will he join in January?

I expect us to go in for him January. But would expect more competition. If we want him I hope a deal is done in December and he moves January 1st. No waiting around.

Peterbrough had JCH playing in the Championship and he scored lots of goals and Posh still got relegated