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Post by yattongas on Oct 28, 2023 22:34:35 GMT
Yet another stadium failure. I don't really support the rebuild of the Mem as it will never provide the capacity or income streams on non-matchdays as a purpose built new stadium. However, as there is nothing else on the table, there appears to be little choice. We will, however, be restricting ourselves to top league one to bottom of the championship I fear, though that is better than we have had for 30 years! Luton, Brentford and Bournemouth made it to the Premiership at even smaller grounds? Although who's really going to be that upset if we're "only" a Championship club within the next decade? Me. I want world dominance. |
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Post by aghast on Oct 28, 2023 22:37:21 GMT
Whatever it looks like, it's going to look a million times better than what we have now. I don't think I'll ever see a new stadium if I continue to eat pasties and pizzas at the rate I do, and I'm just grateful something is finally being done to the Mem to make it look like an actual football stadium instead of a show jumping arena.
16-17,000 capacity will do just fine for the next 10 years.
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 28, 2023 23:29:07 GMT
When they say the south end of the east stand is next, does that mean extracting the section of stand that currently sits within the south stand and plonking it on the away terrace? I’m totally underwhelmed by anything that’s not a wholesale redevelopment of the mem (which is not my preferred location, but then you’ll never please everyone). Even something done in stages so that ultimately it looks like one complete stadium. All I can picture from this info is lots of makeshift stands similar to those we’ve seen dotted around the ground previously. To quote Paul Buckle, I feel we’re being told to lower our expectations… It's a disgrace, if this is what it is then I am sorry that club will get what they deserve. Floating around in league 1 forever. It is becoming worrying that we do not have the money to build a modern stadium with a decent capacity. People will say Bournemouth don't have a huge stadium. But they are actually looking at building a new ground, whilst their owners fund premiership football. I am genuinely concerned we've been sold down a river of mediocrity. But like us they’ve been looking at it for a long time, since the 2010s. But it’s been all looking, and they’ve probably spent less time than us on any new ground. With AFCB the new owner, Foley, looks more likely to turn the ‘looking’ into something more concrete ( excuse the pun) than those before. Now he does have ambition and the money and inclination to back it up. UTG! |
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Post by Captain Jayho on Oct 28, 2023 23:54:20 GMT
The Thatchers End to be made bigger, all safe standing with a cantilevered roof, surely. The great wall of Horfield.
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Post by gasheadontour on Oct 28, 2023 23:59:56 GMT
Some seem unaware that in 2007 Rovers achieved planning permission for an 18,500 capacity stadium at the Mem.
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Post by gashead4ever on Oct 29, 2023 0:00:23 GMT
How can I listen to interview?
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Post by gasheadontour on Oct 29, 2023 0:02:11 GMT
The Thatchers End to be made bigger, all safe standing with a cantilevered roof, surely. The great wall of Horfield. seems more likely to become seated and the remaining standing will be the front of the West Stand. |
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Post by supergas on Oct 29, 2023 1:43:57 GMT
New site = brand new full stadium. Current site = redevelopment, meaning it can't be torn down and replaced. Needs to be done piecemeal as we haven't got the luxury of a spurs (Wembley) temporary option. Also, what is the lifespan of temp vs perm for stands out of interest? Temporary vs Permanent (in terms of the South Stand) is more about how it has been constructed than how long it will last. As far as I can tell the 'temporary' part refers to little or no above-ground concrete or brickwork - everything being built on the foundations is bolted/screwed together meaning whilst it could/should last for 50+ years it could also be dismantled (rather than demolished) in the space of a few weeks... |
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Post by supergas on Oct 29, 2023 1:52:20 GMT
Would it make a difference to capacity if the pitch is turned? I've always said this, build a new east stand behind the existing one, re-orientate the pitch to make it behind the goal, enlarge and extend the South and North sides of the ground which would have more length and depth and then finally redevelop the west which would also have more depth if the pitch moved further east. Great idea, one I've discussed many times in the pub (and occasionally on here). Probably won't happen because it would be costly and controversial - although in a money-no-object scenario it would almost certainly leave us with the best possible ground within the space we have available. Pros - fits the space we have better than the current orientation. Cons - nightmare trying to do it whilst still playing at the ground, any delays on any part potentially push the whole thing back by a complete season, and I doubt they've built the South Stand on a orientation that could run the length of a rotated pitch. Plus E/W pitch means one team is defending whilst looking directly into the setting sun for a huge chunk of games every season... |
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Oct 29, 2023 2:21:09 GMT
Regarding the East Stand proposals (as far as we know them) - Last season many people said we should do exactly that after seeing the Carlisle stand 'extensions'. Now it is not good enough. Can't please everyone…. I was one of those who after seeing Carlisles set up said it could be done. My issue is the capacity, East stand only goes back 12 rows(ish) it's only just over 1000 seats. Just looks big as it's on a high wall. Extending it either side seems a lot of work for very few extra seats. The Thatchers IMO has scope to go back without changing the footprint. Complete rebuild of bar with seats above it. |
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Post by gas2 on Oct 29, 2023 2:54:02 GMT
Good interview with the new owner he sounds a man on a mission straight answers to all the questions he said 13 new signings but he never Said how many left at the end of last season its a bit of a agatha christie mystery over the sacking of j b you dont get promoted or relegated in October ?
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Post by dudelebowski on Oct 29, 2023 3:31:32 GMT
Whatever happens, gotta shift the ground back towards Filton Ave & into the car park, give ourselves a chance of building something decent on the West side (as & when) get it clear of the gardens that lay right behind it.
Did I hear correctly the thatchers end will be a two tiered structure? Interesting.
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Post by dudelebowski on Oct 29, 2023 5:01:44 GMT
Who’s to say the plan isn’t to build a whopping gert new East stand full length of the park in 2 separate stages, south end first and then north end to finish?
Christ Someone bust out the chill pills.
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Post by Gasshole on Oct 29, 2023 6:03:18 GMT
In comparison to what we have endured over the last 40 years. A modestly redeveloped Mem will be like moving from the Outhouse to the Penthouse.
I’m absolutely buzzing for it.
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Post by supergas on Oct 29, 2023 6:14:39 GMT
Who’s to say the plan isn’t to build a whopping gert new East stand full length of the park in 2 separate stages, south end first and then north end to finish? Christ Someone bust out the chill pills. If it was possible it's how I would do it. Once the South Stand is complete the next logical part to develop is the SW corner. The away terrace is no longer required so you *could* (and this is all very hypothetical) apply for planning permission for that corner later this year, get it by summer, build the corner during 2024/25 (including key things like changing rooms and a couple of hospitality boxes. Whilst that's being built you continue to use the main parts of the East Stand, and apply for planning for the rest of it. Start the demolition/building on day one of the 2025 summer break and it *could* (should) be ready for the start of 2026/27 thirteen months later - and of course players/officials/fans can use the new South East corner during the rebuild. Pie-in-the-sky? I've seen stranger things happen... |
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Post by supergas on Oct 29, 2023 6:24:12 GMT
Whatever happens, gotta shift the ground back towards Filton Ave & into the car park, give ourselves a chance of building something decent on the West side (as & when) get it clear of the gardens that lay right behind it. Did I hear correctly the thatchers end will be a two tiered structure? Interesting. The South Stand has been built (maybe intentionally) so that the SW part and the first section of the full south part could be removed (relatively easily), with the corner rebuilt several metres East of where it is now... ...genuinely doubt that was part of the planning but it's not outside the realms of possibility... |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 29, 2023 6:43:40 GMT
Only on purely selfish reasons, if you're asking just me and what's best for me if I'm narcissistic, I would redevelop Mem as it's close to where I live and have grown up.
Plus, there's many independent establishments within walking distance for families, couples, groups or solos to enjoy from eating and drinking, to shopping or dog walking.... it's in the heart of the community, with public transport easy access, in an established sporting venue that pays respect to it's creation - a Memorial to those lost at war - we are unique.
What's best for the majority of fans, the club's future might be different, but I answered the question in the spirit I thought it was intended.
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Post by darkbluegas on Oct 29, 2023 6:59:07 GMT
If I had to predict how this will play out I would suggest the following. We:ll finish the temporary South Stand then build a section of stand at the East side matching the current stand but at South side.
These owners will lose interest and sell up and we'll spend the next 50 years with the weirdest ground in the league with everyone up one end.
In true Rovers style.🏴☠️UTG
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Post by Squiffy on Oct 29, 2023 7:13:42 GMT
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Post by singupgas on Oct 29, 2023 7:15:47 GMT
Whatever happens, gotta shift the ground back towards Filton Ave & into the car park, give ourselves a chance of building something decent on the West side (as & when) get it clear of the gardens that lay right behind it. Did I hear correctly the thatchers end will be a two tiered structure? Interesting. That would be good idea. Look forward to seeing the plans. |
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