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Post by bidefordgas on Oct 28, 2023 20:01:54 GMT
Bloody hell there are some right moaners on here.
Our new owner comes out and gives an excellent interview on their plans to develop the Mem.
Architects have been engaged and they are going to develop the east side next. Even if the existing stand stays in place it can be extended on both sides and will be unrecognisable .
My thoughts are that the roof will be the same height on both sides and the seating will be brought down to pitch level .An additional section of roof for the existing stand could be easily supported by the new structures on both sides. All this work can take place whilst retaining the old east stand seats and hospitality areas for games during the season.
Anyway calling something tinpot before they have shown you the plans is simply stupid, I suggest you give them a chance, you might well be surprised, after all they only came in three months ago. The man even mentioned safe standing which many have called for and many in the thatchers will no doubt be delighted to hear that.
Give them a fair crack of the whip I say, they clearly mean business.
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Post by aghast on Oct 28, 2023 20:04:47 GMT
I thought it was a very reasonable well argued interview. Thought he handled the Joey situation well.
What the new stadium will look like is anybody's guess at this stage but I'm hoping it won't be a couple of tiny stands plonked either side of the East. Surely not?
What I felt wasn't clear was if they want to improve the overall experience for fans and create something acceptable in 2023, or just increase capacity as cheaply as possible
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 28, 2023 20:16:32 GMT
Bloody hell there are some right moaners on here. Our new owner comes out and gives an excellent interview on their plans to develop the Mem. Architects have been engaged and they are going to develop the east side next. Even if the existing stand stays in place it can be extended on both sides and will be unrecognisable . My thoughts are that the roof will be the same height on both sides and the seating will be brought down to pitch level .An additional section of roof for the existing stand could be easily supported by the new structures on both sides. All this work can take place whilst retaining the old east stand seats and hospitality areas for games during the season. Anyway calling something tinpot before they have shown you the plans is simply stupid, I suggest you give them a chance, you might well be surprised, after all they only came in three months ago. The man even mentioned safe standing which many have called for and many in the thatchers will no doubt be delighted to hear that. Give them a fair crack of the whip I say, they clearly mean business. 'Plonking extensions either side' or 'integrating the existing structure into a new stand'? One sounds like a Heath Robinson patch up job, the other a more thoughtful improvement. We'll find out soon-ish. |
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Post by axegas on Oct 28, 2023 20:17:55 GMT
When they say the south end of the east stand is next, does that mean extracting the section of stand that currently sits within the south stand and plonking it on the away terrace? I’m totally underwhelmed by anything that’s not a wholesale redevelopment of the mem (which is not my preferred location, but then you’ll never please everyone). Even something done in stages so that ultimately it looks like one complete stadium. All I can picture from this info is lots of makeshift stands similar to those we’ve seen dotted around the ground previously. To quote Paul Buckle, I feel we’re being told to lower our expectations… It's a disgrace, if this is what it is then I am sorry that club will get what they deserve. Floating around in league 1 forever. It is becoming worrying that we do not have the money to build a modern stadium with a decent capacity. People will say Bournemouth don't have a huge stadium. But they are actually looking at building a new ground, whilst their owners fund premiership football. I am genuinely concerned we've been sold down a river of mediocrity. Let’s actually see the plans before we jump to conclusions that it’s a disgrace and we’re being sold mediocrity. The East stand is aging and poorly built, you can’t ‘redevelop’ it without knocking it down. We’ve explored doing stuff like bolting a family stand onto it before and it hasn’t worked. The only chance of securing any kind of return on investment is if you demolish it, rebuild to a modern spec, improve and enlarge the catering facilities. Add office space, retail space or student accommodation. Whilst partially financing it through grants and loans. I’m sure that is the option the owners are looking into, if they have any commercial sense. |
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Post by Centenary Gas on Oct 28, 2023 20:20:29 GMT
Having just listened to the interview, the wording sounds exactly like we will be adding to the existing East stand (extending the current seated part or adding seats either side) and keeping the terrace below. Finished with commenting it will do us for the years to come. Sounds like we are increasing the capacity with a few extra seats before going for a new stadium when we reach higher levels.
The only part that doesnt make sense to the above is the Thatchers. Unless we would extend it backwards, that one would need to be demolished and rebuilt.
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Post by axegas on Oct 28, 2023 20:32:45 GMT
Having just listened to the interview, the wording sounds exactly like we will be adding to the existing East stand (extending the current seated part or adding seats either side) and keeping the terrace below. Finished with commenting it will do us for years to come. Sounds like we are increasing the capacity with a few extra seats before going for a new stadium when we reach higher levels. The only part that doesnt make sense to the above is the Thatchers. Unless we would extend it backwards, that one would need to be demolished and rebuilt. I’m not an architect, but the way I can see them ‘adding’ to the East stand is this: -Completely demolish the actual East seating and catering bit. -Build a new tier on top of the terracing that stretches the full distance, with a larger roof that covers the terrace section as well. (This ‘tier’ could well be temporary, a sort of South Stand on stilts) - Create a section in between the upper tier and lower terrace that acts as a concourse and an access route for those below. - Rebuild the catering facilities behind this newly created stand. - Convert current East terrace into ‘Safe standing’ to comply with Championship and Premier League requirements. |
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Post by stapletongas on Oct 28, 2023 20:33:13 GMT
Should have made this decision from the start instead of the fruit and nut job. Might have been finished by now if they’d done that.
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Post by bidefordgas on Oct 28, 2023 20:41:24 GMT
Will look good when the seats are in, why do you say that out of interest? If you are designing the ideal stand it wouldn't have columns restricting sightlines. In fairness to our new owners they had no control over the building of the new south stand. It was purchased as a temporary stand albeit one that could stand for many years and because it is temporary it does not have substantial foundations to support a cantelever roof. Let’s see the plans that an architect draws up for the east side before we worry about sight lines. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2023 20:50:11 GMT
i have followed this club since 1967,others on this forum have followed longer we have been promised this and that for far too long we have just lost a manager who in my opinion has built a team capable of a promotion finish with all the injuries we have had to deal with how can you put out a regular side! now we are told the fruit market is a no go what a surprise,if you think these new owners are going to develope the mem you have got to be off your rockers where will we play while this transision goes on if things dont suit them they will sell up and be long gone and its the faithful few who will have to put up with it think of yeovil it could happen to you! Couldn't agree more. People are blinkered. Joey assembled this side, the team again played with same tactics and won..we have been riddled with injuries all season and lacking a striker. If a Meccano South stand and filling in blanks is our future, then I'm disappointed. I pray I am wrong and a wholesale rebuild is what is actually going to happen, 20k seater stadium, modern facilities of today. But I have no confidence. It really is strange us Rovers fans are happy to be fed sh** all the time. Barton’s gone mate. Time to get over it. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Oct 28, 2023 20:51:10 GMT
Should have made this decision from the start instead of the fruit and nut job. Might have been finished by now if they’d done that. The new owners only arrived this August! They have looked at the proposed fm deal and it does not make financial sense. Hence they have binned the deal. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2023 20:53:56 GMT
Should have made this decision from the start instead of the fruit and nut job. Might have been finished by now if they’d done that. The new owners only arrived this August! They have looked at the proposed fm deal and it does not make financial sense. Hence they have binned the deal. It was obvious from the very start that a deal with a developer who are after a profit wouldn’t be beneficial to us. I suspect that Wael couldn’t fund a revamp at the Mem on his own and the fruit market was to Wael what UWE was to Higgs. |
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Post by gashead4ever on Oct 28, 2023 20:53:57 GMT
They need to take east stand down and build a proper stand
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Post by curlywurly on Oct 28, 2023 21:20:49 GMT
Bloody hell there are some right moaners on here. Our new owner comes out and gives an excellent interview on their plans to develop the Mem. Architects have been engaged and they are going to develop the east side next. Even if the existing stand stays in place it can be extended on both sides and will be unrecognisable . My thoughts are that the roof will be the same height on both sides and the seating will be brought down to pitch level .An additional section of roof for the existing stand could be easily supported by the new structures on both sides. All this work can take place whilst retaining the old east stand seats and hospitality areas for games during the season. Anyway calling something tinpot before they have shown you the plans is simply stupid, I suggest you give them a chance, you might well be surprised, after all they only came in three months ago. The man even mentioned safe standing which many have called for and many in the thatchers will no doubt be delighted to hear that. Give them a fair crack of the whip I say, they clearly mean business. I agree. But some...
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Oct 28, 2023 21:24:36 GMT
They need to take east stand down and build a proper stand Absolutly , that stand belongs in the 1970's , we need to be dragged kickin and screamin into the 2020's |
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Post by Gasshole on Oct 28, 2023 21:34:47 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Oct 28, 2023 21:39:06 GMT
In true forum style , we’re split right down the middle 😂
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Post by gasandelectricity on Oct 28, 2023 22:11:46 GMT
In true forum style , we’re split right down the middle 😂 Need something to fall out over now Barton’s gone! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 28, 2023 22:26:27 GMT
Pleased that our future will be at the Memorial. The tenanted situation at Eastville was an appalling situation which nearly cost us our existence that should never be re-visited. We owned Eastville at one point how did that work out? Isn't that the point we sold it to rent it then lost it completely? How much would Eastville be worth now if it still just had a football stadium in the middle of it, £100m? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 28, 2023 22:31:37 GMT
Should have started rebuilding the mem bit by bit 20+ years ago. Club failed . Instead went with pie in the sky pkans that always fell flat and let fans down big time. The club should rebuild the mem but should also be looking to find a new stadium site they can move to in the future. The Mem is good for a yoyo championship league one/two side. Not for a team looking to be a top end championship club. Easy to say that now but where was the money going to come from when neither Dunford or Higgs had access to the required finance? Just a pity Wael didn't revert back to the student accommodation funded stadium plan when the UWE became unviable, instead of chasing the KM/SH FM plan which was probably never viable. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 28, 2023 22:33:38 GMT
Yet another stadium failure. I don't really support the rebuild of the Mem as it will never provide the capacity or income streams on non-matchdays as a purpose built new stadium. However, as there is nothing else on the table, there appears to be little choice. We will, however, be restricting ourselves to top league one to bottom of the championship I fear, though that is better than we have had for 30 years! Luton, Brentford and Bournemouth made it to the Premiership at even smaller grounds? Although who's really going to be that upset if we're "only" a Championship club within the next decade? |
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