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Post by gulfofaden on Oct 29, 2023 7:28:25 GMT
I wanted the FM but that was on the basis of it being economically unviable at the mem.
The issue with the mem is that it’s horrible to get to and terrible for parking. If they can solve that with a multi storey car park. Another issue is that I think it’s a green ward, with ridiculous house prices, so it’s surrounded by trust fund owning anti-capitalists who will oppose any advancement other than complete demolishment and replacement with a series of fields, preferably with wild wolves being reintroduced 😉
Bristol is so hot in terms of real estate, it will be difficult to battle for any space. Lansdown gave up with another site, it’s an anti-business environment in Bristol generally (because of its more recent inhabitants and how they vote, so probably best we bite the bullet and just redevelop what we have as we will have endeless opposition.
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Post by singupgas on Oct 29, 2023 7:32:58 GMT
If we are redeveloping the ground.. surely the east stand would be the first to go, as Dude said you could build something much bigger out into the car park. I would HOPE the plans are to build something modern, with all the facilities built in, club shop, impressive concourse, move the changing rooms across. Could you get 8-10k seats down one side?
I don't see the benefit of having the car park so big personally, should be just big enough for a few coaches and disabled access.
I watch Spurs fairly regularly, can guarantee most fans use public transport or walk to the ground.
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Post by trevorgas on Oct 29, 2023 7:43:06 GMT
Just listened,thought all questions were answered well and seems a determined individual,I like that they have taken time to review before making changes. |
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Post by wallywalters on Oct 29, 2023 7:51:18 GMT
Some seem unaware that in 2007 Rovers achieved planning permission for an 18,500 capacity stadium at the Mem. Something's obviously changed since then though as in the interview he said what he wants (18k) and what he gets are different things and it will be 16/17k at most. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 29, 2023 8:00:24 GMT
Some seem unaware that in 2007 Rovers achieved planning permission for an 18,500 capacity stadium at the Mem. Something's obviously changed since then though as in the interview he said what he wants (18k) and what he gets are different things and it will be 16/17k at most. Probably sticking with the West Stand drastically reduces the capacity against a complete rebuild of the whole ground? I wonder if they've considered including student accommodation, or even any accommodation, in their plan given the seemingly never ending demand for it in Bristol? |
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Post by wallywalters on Oct 29, 2023 8:06:02 GMT
Something's obviously changed since then though as in the interview he said what he wants (18k) and what he gets are different things and it will be 16/17k at most. Probably sticking with the West Stand drastically reduces the capacity against a complete rebuild of the whole ground? I wonder if they've considered including student accommodation, or even any accommodation, in their plan given the seemingly never ending demand for it in Bristol? Ah yeah good point didn't think of that re the west stand. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 29, 2023 8:07:37 GMT
That would look abysmal imo. That monstrosity wants flattening. Should be rebuilt containing changing rooms and exec boxes so there would be no disruption if West Stand gets done. I appreciate the East Stand is our biggest money maker but it is an abomination. A new stand wouldn't need to be anywhere near as high so any worries from neighbours about light being blocked shouldn't be a problem. Exactly. Just adding bits on doesn’t do anything long term. I get it’ll cost money but this should be the one stand the development should be based on. Hospitality, changing room etc and by far the biggest of the four. The changing rooms are presently in the West Stand unless they no longer meet EFL requirements I can't see there's any need to include them in the East Stand, although that will need to include a new club shop, along with hospitality. I sense all talks about holding concerts etc should be forgotten until we've got pp for the redevelopment. Tesco's, McD's etc are experts at that, get pp first then seek extended store opening & delivery hours and usually getting them. |
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Post by simon1883 on Oct 29, 2023 8:27:18 GMT
Genuinely good interview. Seems to be a realist and want a to get sh** done right. I look forward to the preview of the east stand development.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Oct 29, 2023 8:30:18 GMT
Exactly. Just adding bits on doesn’t do anything long term. I get it’ll cost money but this should be the one stand the development should be based on. Hospitality, changing room etc and by far the biggest of the four. The changing rooms are presently in the West Stand unless they no longer meet EFL requirements I can't see there's any need to include them in the East Stand, although that will need to include a new club shop, along with hospitality. I sense all talks about holding concerts etc should be forgotten until we've got pp for the redevelopment. Tesco's, McD's etc are experts at that, get pp first then seek extended store opening & delivery hours and usually getting them. It’s a bit daft that players and staff have to cross the pitch to get to them from the dugouts. If we put them into a redeveloped East Stand we can do whatever we need to the West Stand in the future without consequence of having to worry about where all that stuff goes. |
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Post by eric on Oct 29, 2023 8:33:08 GMT
Probably sticking with the West Stand drastically reduces the capacity against a complete rebuild of the whole ground? I wonder if they've considered including student accommodation, or even any accommodation, in their plan given the seemingly never ending demand for it in Bristol? Ah yeah good point didn't think of that re the west stand. If we get the East extended and then a big, steep stand in the North perhaps the West being completely rebuilt could be a project for the much longer term. If we can get the three other sides done and that enables 16000/17000 surely that will be enough for a good few years. |
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Post by percy on Oct 29, 2023 8:33:49 GMT
Just listened. Great to get some decent info from the new owners
Re the east stand.
Could step one (south end be a partial build to then move current season ticket holders into when the current stand and north end of east are rebuilt? Or more likely they are retaining the existing stand?
Will be interesting to see the plans!
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Oct 29, 2023 8:37:13 GMT
Luton, Brentford and Bournemouth made it to the Premiership at even smaller grounds? Although who's really going to be that upset if we're "only" a Championship club within the next decade? Me. I want world dominance. thibk it’s not the capacity that’s the problem to get into the Prem it’s the communication suites required for cameras and off field interviews etc, even if it was 12,000 all seater it would be fine but look at the work Luton had to do to their stadium to get it up to snuff for predominantly sky 16/17k is fine but it has to have facilities just my take utg |
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Oct 29, 2023 8:58:07 GMT
I wonder when stage 2 will begin? Best apply for planning ASAP if we’re looking to start in the next 2 years.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 29, 2023 9:06:07 GMT
The changing rooms are presently in the West Stand unless they no longer meet EFL requirements I can't see there's any need to include them in the East Stand, although that will need to include a new club shop, along with hospitality. I sense all talks about holding concerts etc should be forgotten until we've got pp for the redevelopment. Tesco's, McD's etc are experts at that, get pp first then seek extended store opening & delivery hours and usually getting them. It’s a bit daft that players and staff have to cross the pitch to get to them from the dugouts. If we put them into a redeveloped East Stand we can do whatever we need to the West Stand in the future without consequence of having to worry about where all that stuff goes. Or a bit daft spending £100K+(?) just so the coaches don't have to walk across the pitch? It's not really clear what's being planned for the East Stand a total demolition and rebuild or just tinkering with what's already there. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Oct 29, 2023 9:12:11 GMT
It’s a bit daft that players and staff have to cross the pitch to get to them from the dugouts. If we put them into a redeveloped East Stand we can do whatever we need to the West Stand in the future without consequence of having to worry about where all that stuff goes. Or a bit daft spending £100K+(?) just so the coaches don't have to walk across the pitch? It's not really clear what's being planned for the East Stand a total demolition and rebuild or just tinkering with what's already there. Completely missed the point there. It allows us to ensure facilities are as expected (because these are designed for a rugby club not an elite football club in the 21st century) and removes the reliance on the West Stand leaving us free to do whatever we want with that in the future. The existing changing rooms can be converted into offices, bars, concessions, whatever you like. |
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 29, 2023 9:13:13 GMT
11 pages of guesswork.
It's great that he has spoken, even if the timing and content is completely random.
So, what should happen rather than just words-bear in mind we've had words for 30 years+. Is a plan, drawn out with imagery and drawings.
A twitter release by an individual rather than through the club account is also weird. BRFC should be driving footfall through its media to create sales opportunities and gather members.
It just feels like back of fag packet stuff which is all we've ever had. I think it's good that staying at the Mem is confirmed. Not concerned about 'extra revenue' and unsure why that's even a point to discuss tbh.
Looking forward to seeing the detail, if there is any.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Oct 29, 2023 9:14:43 GMT
We’re just getting started. |
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Oct 29, 2023 9:25:54 GMT
If we are redeveloping the ground.. surely the east stand would be the first to go, as Dude said you could build something much bigger out into the car park. I would HOPE the plans are to build something modern, with all the facilities built in, club shop, impressive concourse, move the changing rooms across. Could you get 8-10k seats down one side? I don't see the benefit of having the car park so big personally, should be just big enough for a few coaches and disabled access. I watch Spurs fairly regularly, can guarantee most fans use public transport or walk to the ground. Yes as regard to the car park , you either build up or build down to compensate for any lost space . Up would obv seem the most logical , and doesn't have to
be a five storey high thing ( not that we'd get approval anyway ).
I think as far as dev the mem is concerned , we a dont want to miss a trick and end up with a quick fix look. The east stand has the best potential but needs to be razed
and re built. As for the cricket pavillio west stand , dissapointed thats staying , its a f-ing eyesore. The thatchers end still remains a unknown , and something exciting
could take it's place . Lets see the plans then debate. Btw how many of you would put up with x amount of seasons away , if we were to get a spanking new state of the
art rededvelopment at the mem . Heaven forbid AG or Swindon , another thread for another day perhaps?
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 29, 2023 9:27:12 GMT
Or a bit daft spending £100K+(?) just so the coaches don't have to walk across the pitch? It's not really clear what's being planned for the East Stand a total demolition and rebuild or just tinkering with what's already there. Completely missed the point there. It allows us to ensure facilities are as expected (because these are designed for a rugby club not an elite football club in the 21st century) and removes the reliance on the West Stand leaving us free to do whatever we want with that in the future. The existing changing rooms can be converted into offices, bars, concessions, whatever you like. If we were just spending money for the sake of it then would we really have just built a new stand with pillars? If the South Stand is anything to go by the whole development will be a bit of a bodge job not a well thought out development. Anything is better than what we presently have but fans are already getting carried away with their vision of what will be built. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 29, 2023 9:29:57 GMT
If we are redeveloping the ground.. surely the east stand would be the first to go, as Dude said you could build something much bigger out into the car park. I would HOPE the plans are to build something modern, with all the facilities built in, club shop, impressive concourse, move the changing rooms across. Could you get 8-10k seats down one side? I don't see the benefit of having the car park so big personally, should be just big enough for a few coaches and disabled access. I watch Spurs fairly regularly, can guarantee most fans use public transport or walk to the ground. Yes as regard to the car park , you either build up or build down to compensate for any lost space . Up would obv seem the most logical , and doesn't have to
be a five storey high thing ( not that we'd get approval anyway ).
I think as far as dev the mem is concerned , we a dont want to miss a trick and end up with a quick fix look. The east stand has the best potential but needs to be razed
and re built. As for the cricket pavillio west stand , dissapointed thats staying , its a f-ing eyesore. The thatchers end still remains a unknown , and something exciting
could take it's place . Lets see the plans then debate. Btw how many of you would put up with x amount of seasons away , if we were to get a spanking new state of the
art rededvelopment at the mem . Heaven forbid AG or Swindon , another thread for another day perhaps?
AG now holds rugby most alternative weekends, Swindon a complete non starter for most fans. As far as a multistorey car park, how would that ever get through planning given the South Stand saga. Looking at alternative parking/nearby park & ride as to be a better option. |
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