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Post by amgas on Nov 1, 2023 15:58:32 GMT
I do wonder if there is potential to build a mini version of that with only the North and East stands incorporating blocks at the end of the stands and in the corner of the two.
Even a simple scheme with Bars/Shop/Hospitality on the bottom floors of the blocks, a simple south stand type structure with cantilever root between the blocks and student flats on top floors of the blocks to help fund .....
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Post by playtowin on Nov 1, 2023 17:05:09 GMT
One thing we can be sure of. If the south stand doesnt get approval Rovers have no option but to leave the Mem as soon as possible. Even if that was to a modest 12000 modern stadium built in the greater Bristol area. Im sure those in Trashton know how important us not getting permission benefits their quest in enlarging their empire building. Their empire building? No South Stand approval means we have to leave the Mem as soon as possible? What the juddering f8ck does any of that mean? Well...no pp for south stand puts an end to any significant development of the mem...so move elsewhere or we fade into non league football eventually. The Lansdown empire...his hopes of nobody will know who we even are.... |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 1, 2023 18:43:48 GMT
Well that’s Rovers future sorted out, residing in a low capacity third rate stadium!! Yea but, no but, yea but: it's OUR low capacity third rate stadium! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 1, 2023 19:26:35 GMT
Their empire building? No South Stand approval means we have to leave the Mem as soon as possible? What the juddering f8ck does any of that mean? Well...no pp for south stand puts an end to any significant development of the mem...so move elsewhere or we fade into non league football eventually. The Lansdown empire...his hopes of nobody will know who we even are.... Or we simply appeal using the fact we were previously granted pp for a much large development? Not really sure what Lansdown as to do with any failure to get pp, unless you are suggesting that he's financing the group objecting to the plans, which seems a bit unlikely. |
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Post by womble on Nov 4, 2023 22:40:02 GMT
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Post by supergas on Nov 5, 2023 7:41:38 GMT
From 2008, the student flat financed, and in my opinion the most architecturally interesting (including UWE), scheme to date. This was right at the limit of what can be achieved on the site without unacceptably high levels of light loss for the surrounding houses.  Interesting that the colour of the cladding on that proposed South Stand is not that different at all from the new South Stand - a colour that more than a few locals are complaining about. Given that colour was already approved in a previous planning application that should be another hurdle cleared for the new stand. [edit] also a remarkable number of parking spaces free just a few years ago! Wonder what we can learn from that...? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2023 8:19:34 GMT
From 2008, the student flat financed, and in my opinion the most architecturally interesting (including UWE), scheme to date. This was right at the limit of what can be achieved on the site without unacceptably high levels of light loss for the surrounding houses. Interesting that the colour of the cladding on that proposed South Stand is not that different at all from the new South Stand - a colour that more than a few locals are complaining about. Given that colour was already approved in a previous planning application that should be another hurdle cleared for the new stand. [edit] also a remarkable number of parking spaces free just a few years ago! Wonder what we can learn from that...? The photo was taken in the daytime when everyone was at work and work from home wasn’t a thing? |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 5, 2023 8:56:39 GMT
Interesting that the colour of the cladding on that proposed South Stand is not that different at all from the new South Stand - a colour that more than a few locals are complaining about. Given that colour was already approved in a previous planning application that should be another hurdle cleared for the new stand. [edit] also a remarkable number of parking spaces free just a few years ago! Wonder what we can learn from that...? The photo was taken in the daytime when everyone was at work and work from home wasn’t a thing? Probably, the minimal shadow suggests the sun was possibly in the south, so around midday. Also, it looks a bit overcast. Some of the other photos have a brighter sky and people in cooler clothing, which could have been taken at different times. |
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Post by baggins on Nov 5, 2023 9:07:43 GMT
The photo was taken in the daytime when everyone was at work and work from home wasn’t a thing? Probably, the minimal shadow suggests the sun was possibly in the south, so around midday. Also, it looks a bit overcast. Some of the other photos have a brighter sky and people in cooler clothing, which could have been taken at different times. Thank you Mr Holmes. |
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Post by buktaboy on Nov 5, 2023 10:45:59 GMT
Thanks for the reminder womble (I won't repost it all). These plans for me are the benchmark that the new development should be held against. These clearly show what could be done on the site. If we get something similar, then good job, if, as seems more likely, it's just some cheap stands with pillars plonked either side of the crappy old East Stand then it will be seriously underwhelming. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 5, 2023 11:00:19 GMT
Thanks for the reminder womble (I won't repost it all). These plans for me are the benchmark that the new development should be held against. These clearly show what could be done on the site. If we get something similar, then good job, if, as seems more likely, it's just some cheap stands with pillars plonked either side of the crappy old East Stand then it will be seriously underwhelming. Just prepare yourself to be underwhelmed as it seems pretty clear that's the plan, the old plans are really a dream scenario not a benchmark as they were never really viable. Plus there's no way we could demolish the East Stand now without around 3,000 fans missing at least one season.s games at the Mem, that alone must be £2m+ in lost of revenue from just ticket sales. (3,000 x £25 x 30) |
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 5, 2023 11:38:27 GMT
Thanks for the reminder womble (I won't repost it all). These plans for me are the benchmark that the new development should be held against. These clearly show what could be done on the site. If we get something similar, then good job, if, as seems more likely, it's just some cheap stands with pillars plonked either side of the crappy old East Stand then it will be seriously underwhelming. Just prepare yourself to be underwhelmed as it seems pretty clear that's the plan, the old plans are really a dream scenario not a benchmark as they were never really viable. Plus there's no way we could demolish the East Stand now without around 3,000 fans missing at least one season.s games at the Mem, that alone must be £2m+ in lost of revenue from just ticket sales. (3,000 x £25 x 30) I agree with this. However if we were to do the north stand first, with increased capacity that would cover off a full East stand development in terms of capacity. |
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Post by curlywurly on Nov 5, 2023 11:53:16 GMT
Thanks for the reminder womble (I won't repost it all). These plans for me are the benchmark that the new development should be held against. These clearly show what could be done on the site. If we get something similar, then good job, if, as seems more likely, it's just some cheap stands with pillars plonked either side of the crappy old East Stand then it will be seriously underwhelming. Just prepare yourself to be underwhelmed as it seems pretty clear that's the plan, the old plans are really a dream scenario not a benchmark as they were never really viable. Plus there's no way we could demolish the East Stand now without around 3,000 fans missing at least one season.s games at the Mem, that alone must be £2m+ in lost of revenue from just ticket sales. (3,000 x £25 x 30) I suppose you can't make a cake without cracking some eggs! Just pointing out that the capacity of the East Stand itself, is only just over 1000, but I agree with you that there is likely a need to take substantial parts of the East Terrace out of action, if the existing East stand is to be demolished and capacity lost temporarily.
I don't think that will happen - more likely structures tacked on to the north and south.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 5, 2023 12:28:52 GMT
Is the plans there not for a similar extension of the east stand flanking it with other facilities?
Showing what is possible renovating and expanding the stand as opposed to having to flatten it?
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 5, 2023 14:30:43 GMT
Is the plans there not for a similar extension of the east stand flanking it with other facilities? Showing what is possible renovating and expanding the stand as opposed to having to flatten it? I don't think we've ever previously sought pp for anything but a full development of the East Stand? |
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Post by willytopp84 on Nov 5, 2023 15:09:07 GMT
I wonder if the (new) phase 2 east end if including safe standing could become the chanting end? .
Always loved the atmosphere in the popular end at Twerton with it running along the side of the pitch.
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Post by curlywurly on Nov 5, 2023 18:54:56 GMT
I wonder if the (new) phase 2 east end if including safe standing could become the chanting end? . Always loved the atmosphere in the popular end at Twerton with it running along the side of the pitch. Keep it on the End.
Don't have a corner section like those south of the river, as it is a bit pathetic.
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Post by yattongas on Nov 5, 2023 19:14:19 GMT
Just prepare yourself to be underwhelmed as it seems pretty clear that's the plan, the old plans are really a dream scenario not a benchmark as they were never really viable. Plus there's no way we could demolish the East Stand now without around 3,000 fans missing at least one season.s games at the Mem, that alone must be £2m+ in lost of revenue from just ticket sales. (3,000 x £25 x 30) I suppose you can't make a cake without cracking some eggs! Just pointing out that the capacity of the East Stand itself, is only just over 1000, but I agree with you that there is likely a need to take substantial parts of the East Terrace out of action, if the existing East stand is to be demolished and capacity lost temporarily.
I don't think that will happen - more likely structures tacked on to the north and south.
I suppose you can't make a cake without cracking some eggs…… unless you’re a vegan ! |
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Post by singupgas on Nov 5, 2023 19:30:41 GMT
 This is what I would be hoping for really. A full scale ground redevelopment. Make it look a little sexier, maybe not so square. Tall glass windows, nice lighting.. Surely we don't need to have student accommodation all around the ground, square windows all over the place, sh** hanging out of them, plant pots in them, will look tacky. Sure on a corner a nice sized hotel could be incorporated, but like to think the rest of ground would look modern, have a good size shop, nice bars on each side etc Please can we take a leap and build something to be proud of for years to come. |
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Post by womble on Nov 5, 2023 19:32:24 GMT
Is the plans there not for a similar extension of the east stand flanking it with other facilities? Showing what is possible renovating and expanding the stand as opposed to having to flatten it? I don't think we've ever previously sought pp for anything but a full development of the East Stand? That’s right Topper, the 2008 plan involved demolishing the East Stand and moving it back onto the car park, so that there was enough room for a larger West Stand. Hence the need for us to play at Cheltenham for a couple of seasons. |
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