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Post by singupgas on Nov 20, 2023 22:13:17 GMT
Other than selling parts of the quarters, what else does the club have planned, I thought it was going to expanded if anything with added pitches and facilities. Does concern me we seem to have no money to develop the ground but also now selling the quarters land. We've spent more on the ground this year than we have done for 50+ years? Anyway why are you concerned Rovers have never had any money to develop the ground it's not like it's a new development. Even in the FM deal had gone ahead it would have meant handing the Mem over to CI in exchange for the new stadium. Why shouldn't any Rovers fan be concerned that we are selling parts of training ground land? Anywhere else owners would be accused of asset stripping. There is a huge difference selling the Mem site to fund a brand new modern stadium and selling parts of your assets to tart up a dated stadium by putting ends on stands that are not fit for purpose. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 20, 2023 22:29:43 GMT
We've spent more on the ground this year than we have done for 50+ years? Anyway why are you concerned Rovers have never had any money to develop the ground it's not like it's a new development. Even in the FM deal had gone ahead it would have meant handing the Mem over to CI in exchange for the new stadium. Why shouldn't any Rovers fan be concerned that we are selling parts of training ground land? Anywhere else owners would be accused of asset stripping. There is a huge difference selling the Mem site to fund a brand new modern stadium and selling parts of your assets to tart up a dated stadium by putting ends on stands that are not fit for purpose. When did the club announce they were selling part of the training ground to fund the Mem redevelopment? We've no idea what they intend doing with money, although how can they be asset stripping if they are spending the money on the Mem? |
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Post by Congas on Nov 21, 2023 7:11:05 GMT
Is there enough land on the site to have 1st team,Academy,u23s and womens team ,a gym , several pitches ,car park ,plus 70 houses ? Seems a squeeze. It says homes not houses |
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Post by bravosierraseven on Nov 21, 2023 9:03:10 GMT
We've spent more on the ground this year than we have done for 50+ years? Anyway why are you concerned Rovers have never had any money to develop the ground it's not like it's a new development. Even in the FM deal had gone ahead it would have meant handing the Mem over to CI in exchange for the new stadium. Why shouldn't any Rovers fan be concerned that we are selling parts of training ground land? Anywhere else owners would be accused of asset stripping. There is a huge difference selling the Mem site to fund a brand new modern stadium and selling parts of your assets to tart up a dated stadium by putting ends on stands that are not fit for purpose. I guess it depends if we were ever going to utilise all of the land or if there was always a hope that some of it could be sold for development. Apparently one pitch is about 1.5 acres, 2 with surrounding area so it depends how many pitches we intend to end up with and what other facilities but it seems there is plenty to play with. |
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Post by blueridge on Nov 21, 2023 9:07:02 GMT
Some read - there are only about 6 maybe 7 acres of the land being used at The Quarters at the mo. If that was doubled to accommodate future plans it would still leave at least 10 acres ‘redundant’ - enough for 70 homes + infrastructure (roads)? From an aerial view (Google Maps - Hortham Lane) of the current site, imo the whole site will be restructured moving the pitches ‘eastward’ toward the motorway and the existing pitches used as part of the sell off for new build to integrate with the existing houses and current ‘waste’ land south of the gym also being sold. Personally makes sense to me if it raises £10m? |
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Post by playtowin on Nov 21, 2023 9:42:49 GMT
Is there enough land on the site to have 1st team,Academy,u23s and womens team ,a gym , several pitches ,car park ,plus 70 houses ? Seems a squeeze. It says homes not houses Tower block next to the motorway then |
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Post by heartofgas on Nov 21, 2023 9:47:14 GMT
What I am not clear on, is this South Gloucestershire council saying they have identified these sites for possible housing or has Bristol Rovers proposed this already? Timescales seem to be until 2040. How concrete are these plans? even is it is it may be for parts of the site that are unsuitable to be developed as part of the academy.
I think we may be jumping the gun to think this is a negative for us.
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Post by cheamgas on Nov 21, 2023 9:52:37 GMT
What I am not clear on, is this South Gloucestershire council saying they have identified these sites for possible housing or has Bristol Rovers proposed this already? Timescales seem to be until 2040. How concrete are these plans? even is it is it may be for parts of the site that are unsuitable to be developed as part of the academy. I think we may be jumping the gun to think this is a negative for us. Rovers put in a formal request for it to be identified for housing. The request is available on line and shows that the area for development is where the training pitches currently are. They also had to identify when the land would become available and was identified in the period to 2025. |
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Post by heartofgas on Nov 21, 2023 10:18:07 GMT
What I am not clear on, is this South Gloucestershire council saying they have identified these sites for possible housing or has Bristol Rovers proposed this already? Timescales seem to be until 2040. How concrete are these plans? even is it is it may be for parts of the site that are unsuitable to be developed as part of the academy. I think we may be jumping the gun to think this is a negative for us. Rovers put in a formal request for it to be identified for housing. The request is available on line and shows that the area for development is where the training pitches currently are. They also had to identify when the land would become available and was identified in the period to 2025. That is a bit worrying then. why would they identify the current pitches. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 21, 2023 10:28:32 GMT
Wouldn’t we just sell the land to a housing developer and as part of sale they would have to build new pitches first on the other part of the land ( before the house building started)
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Nov 21, 2023 11:11:54 GMT
Wonder is this thread will beat the FM one in number of pages ?
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Post by hanamgreengas on Nov 21, 2023 11:27:11 GMT
In March/April South Glos Council put out a “Call for Land” where house building could take place in S.Glos. Anybody could put forward suggestions as to where this land could be, irrespective of whether they own it or not.
The council investigated these land suggestions and came up with a draft plan which was passed by the council last Wednesday, I think. There now follows from 4th December to the end of January, a window where interested parties can comment on the draft plan. So any speculation at the moment is purely speculation!
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Post by cheamgas on Nov 21, 2023 11:27:43 GMT
Rovers put in a formal request for it to be identified for housing. The request is available on line and shows that the area for development is where the training pitches currently are. They also had to identify when the land would become available and was identified in the period to 2025. That is a bit worrying then. why would they identify the current pitches. Best place for access and also better drainage in that part. Personally I find it disappointing that the club has not been transparent on its intentions. Has been in the public domain for a little while although the press only seemed to pick up on it when it was being discussed on the other forum. |
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Post by hanamgreengas on Nov 21, 2023 11:32:49 GMT
How do you know it was the Rovers who put in the formal request?
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Post by amgas on Nov 21, 2023 11:40:37 GMT
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Post by hanamgreengas on Nov 21, 2023 11:52:53 GMT
Thanks Amgas. An area around us in Hanham has been included in the draft plan although it's Greenbelt!
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 21, 2023 12:08:16 GMT
Did the Al Saeeds buy into Dwane sports or the club?
Because the training ground is owned by Dwane and not the club is it not?
And therefore it follows that any sale of land for housing development is to complete the training ground as best as we can and not for the clubs use eg stadium expansion / renovation
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Post by amgas on Nov 21, 2023 12:10:30 GMT
They bought into Dwane - I think Dwane ultimately owns the quarters, the football club and the stadium.
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Post by madridgas on Nov 21, 2023 12:37:55 GMT
The documents / letter are dated April 2022. Over 18 months ago, where the club were presumably keeping their options open
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 21, 2023 12:38:28 GMT
They bought into Dwane - I think Dwane ultimately owns the quarters, the football club and the stadium. Originally Dwane Colony owned The Quarters rather than Dwane Sports, although I would imagine there is sufficient crossover and they may have taken a similar share there too, especially as they are openly talking about The Quarters as if they did. |
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