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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2023 23:30:05 GMT
I agree on all this Wally, Brown isn’t interested to fight. We just need to get to the window, send 5/6, and bring in 4 minimum. Marquis, Bogarde, Gibbons, Crama, Woods can all go and send the loans back. Slightly confusing here - Bogarde, Crama and Woods ARE loans. But ok, fine, we do. Signing replacements, as the great comedian Tommy Cooper would put it, "just like that". I don’t think we would miss any of the above and we have to try for replacements. We also have to think Taylor has connections, we will soon find out I guess but we can’t stand still with the above. |
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Dec 9, 2023 23:31:42 GMT
I agree on all this Wally, Brown isn’t interested to fight. We just need to get to the window, send 5/6, and bring in 4 minimum. Marquis, Bogarde, Gibbons, Crama, Woods can all go and send the loans back. It's looking likely Brown's position in the starting 11 is a certainty whilst MT is our manager, given that he's now started in his first two games. Not sure how you can say he will be a certainty for MT’s entire reign just from playing the first two games. He’s using a tried and trusted player he’s worked with before while he finds his feet. He can’t have failed to notice how poor Brown has been in both games and will drop soon. |
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Post by devonwhite9 on Dec 9, 2023 23:33:39 GMT
Slightly confusing here - Bogarde, Crama and Woods ARE loans. But ok, fine, we do. Signing replacements, as the great comedian Tommy Cooper would put it, "just like that". I don’t think we would miss any of the above and we have to try for replacements. We also have to think Taylor has connections, we will soon find out I guess but we can’t stand still with the above. Woods is the biggest mystery for me. A proven quality player at this level, a real coup, yet just hasn't delivered. Others are young players and who knows - look at Quansah last season and this |
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Post by pirate on Dec 9, 2023 23:37:55 GMT
Slightly confusing here - Bogarde, Crama and Woods ARE loans. But ok, fine, we do. Signing replacements, as the great comedian Tommy Cooper would put it, "just like that". I don’t think we would miss any of the above and we have to try for replacements. We also have to think Taylor has connections, we will soon find out I guess but we can’t stand still with the above. Why do we have to think Taylor has connections if we see no evidence of any? He doesn't really sign gems on loan from Prem clubs, so wouldn't expect an Eliot Anderson type of loan favour. He doesn't really have any experience of the transfer market at this level at all, which is a worry considering our lack of scouting and recruitment support infrastructure. |
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Post by franglais1973 on Dec 9, 2023 23:45:30 GMT
We will be in a relegation fight by then and what makes you so confident that the new manager has better contacts than our previous ones? I’ve never understood the need to replace existing management with other candidates that have just been sacked from a similar job. Makes no sense at all, but the hounders have got what they wanted, a cardboard cut out…. You makes your bed and you lie in it. People haven't hounded him out. There were people on forums like this one who were anti but that goes for most managers. On a match day he'd be applauded to the dugout and always get a strong backing, including from me. He got a lot of flack when we were second bottom of the fourth division but that was water under the bridge. The guy was no angel I agree, but from what I have seen on this forum and the other mouthpiece, the constant rubbish expelled on this matter must have influenced the new owners to a knee jerk reaction. And like I said on the other thread, this will affect both the player’s morale, performance and inevitably lead to a poor run of results. We were trying to play football….. now I am not so sure (no new manager bounce, and from what I saw today hoofball!) If the hounders are happy with that then so be it. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 9, 2023 23:49:45 GMT
I agree on all this Wally, Brown isn’t interested to fight. We just need to get to the window, send 5/6, and bring in 4 minimum. Marquis, Bogarde, Gibbons, Crama, Woods can all go and send the loans back. We will be in a relegation fight by then and what makes you so confident that the new manager has better contacts than our previous ones? I’ve never understood the need to replace existing management with other candidates that have just been sacked from a similar job. Makes no sense at all, but the hounders have got what they wanted, a cardboard cut out…. You makes your bed and you lie in it. MT kept Rotherham in the championship on £4m and then this season lost Ogbene to Luton, Wiles to Huddersfield, Wes Harding to Millwall, Vickers and Conor Washington to Derby. A spine of their team. To put that into context, JB and co have spent £4.5m this season on this squad, which, lets be honest, is full of has beens, inconsistencies or injuries. Bartons silver tongue talked up this squad to believe that its capable of winning the league when we aren't even a top 10 squad. I know who I am putting my trust in. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 9, 2023 23:52:06 GMT
People haven't hounded him out. There were people on forums like this one who were anti but that goes for most managers. On a match day he'd be applauded to the dugout and always get a strong backing, including from me. He got a lot of flack when we were second bottom of the fourth division but that was water under the bridge. The guy was no angel I agree, but from what I have seen on this forum and the other mouthpiece, the constant rubbish expelled on this matter must have influenced the new owners to a knee jerk reaction. And like I said on the other thread, this will affect both the player’s morale, performance and inevitably lead to a poor run of results. We were trying to play football….. now I am not so sure (no new manager bounce, and from what I saw today hoofball!) If the hounders are happy with that then so be it. So, if I said 2 wins at home since January and 9 wins in 30 games, would you say that was worthy of continuous employment? Because I'd say that was an appalling set of stats deserving of the sack. |
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Post by franglais1973 on Dec 9, 2023 23:56:50 GMT
We will be in a relegation fight by then and what makes you so confident that the new manager has better contacts than our previous ones? I’ve never understood the need to replace existing management with other candidates that have just been sacked from a similar job. Makes no sense at all, but the hounders have got what they wanted, a cardboard cut out…. You makes your bed and you lie in it. MT kept Rotherham in the championship on £4m and then this season lost Ogbene to Luton, Wiles to Huddersfield, Wes Harding to Millwall, Vickers and Conor Washington to Derby. A spine of their team. To put that into context, JB and co have spent £4.5m this season on this squad, which, lets be honest, is full of has beens, inconsistencies or injuries. Bartons silver tongue talked up this squad to believe that its capable of winning the league when we aren't even a top 10 squad. I know who I am putting my trust in. Let’s wait and see shall we….. Happy to see Mr Taylor propel us up the league higher than 11th place, which is where we were when he came in. |
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Post by devonwhite9 on Dec 10, 2023 0:01:26 GMT
People haven't hounded him out. There were people on forums like this one who were anti but that goes for most managers. On a match day he'd be applauded to the dugout and always get a strong backing, including from me. He got a lot of flack when we were second bottom of the fourth division but that was water under the bridge. The guy was no angel I agree, but from what I have seen on this forum and the other mouthpiece, the constant rubbish expelled on this matter must have influenced the new owners to a knee jerk reaction. And like I said on the other thread, this will affect both the player’s morale, performance and inevitably lead to a poor run of results. We were trying to play football….. now I am not so sure (no new manager bounce, and from what I saw today hoofball!) If the hounders are happy with that then so be it. I remember when we were relegated and Barton decided to meet fans outside the ground, which was recorded on local news. When he came in, we weren't in the relegation zone, yet we finished bottom. The fans he met listened to him, applauded him and supported him. At the same time, Lee Johnson took Sunderland from 8th into playoffs with a great run of form, but lost to Lincoln in the semis. He had to be escorted out the ground with the abuse being hurled at him. That sums up the level of support Barton got here which he would never have received at other clubs. The flack he has got since he started his Twitter crusade is not representative of the way he was treated while he was our manager. |
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Post by philrtid on Dec 10, 2023 0:13:57 GMT
Let's not lose a game against the bottom of the table team. from going to a 99 percent fan base who believed in promotion to a packed blackthorn bar while the game is on. Don't think the south stand will have many more in it then today Not far wrong. Was good to see that the 'managment' were here today to watch the fans reaction to that. The bar takings will prove it. I’m sorry but I can not stop laughing at this 😂 Have another Malbec tonight Betty and light the candle by your Barton picture in the living room, he’s gone and never coming back (thank god) |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2023 0:34:24 GMT
The guy was no angel I agree, but from what I have seen on this forum and the other mouthpiece, the constant rubbish expelled on this matter must have influenced the new owners to a knee jerk reaction. And like I said on the other thread, this will affect both the player’s morale, performance and inevitably lead to a poor run of results. We were trying to play football….. now I am not so sure (no new manager bounce, and from what I saw today hoofball!) If the hounders are happy with that then so be it. So, if I said 2 wins at home since January and 9 wins in 30 games, would you say that was worthy of continuous employment? Because I'd say that was an appalling set of stats deserving of the sack. Yes but what do facts and results matter when you can have opinions. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 10, 2023 0:34:41 GMT
The guy was no angel I agree, but from what I have seen on this forum and the other mouthpiece, the constant rubbish expelled on this matter must have influenced the new owners to a knee jerk reaction. And like I said on the other thread, this will affect both the player’s morale, performance and inevitably lead to a poor run of results. We were trying to play football….. now I am not so sure (no new manager bounce, and from what I saw today hoofball!) If the hounders are happy with that then so be it. I remember when we were relegated and Barton decided to meet fans outside the ground, which was recorded on local news. When he came in, we weren't in the relegation zone, yet we finished bottom. The fans he met listened to him, applauded him and supported him. At the same time, Lee Johnson took Sunderland from 8th into playoffs with a great run of form, but lost to Lincoln in the semis. He had to be escorted out the ground with the abuse being hurled at him. That sums up the level of support Barton got here which he would never have received at other clubs. The flack he has got since he started his Twitter crusade is not representative of the way he was treated while he was our manager. Barton has the gift of the gab, no doubt about that and he used that to great effect multiple times which bread a confidence with most that we all believed he knew what he was doing. Because he can't keep his trap shut, he couldn't wait to tell us about the awful professionalism behind the scenes, which he was probably right about and it almost felt like he was giving us some ITK stuff we have never gotten off other managers. Facts are, quite a few of us detested him being in charge but still went to support the team, some stopped going the minute he was appointed and his twitter crusade has only confirmed what some of us did say and mostly gave up saying and the supporters he did have are now looking like right mugs. |
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Post by franglais1973 on Dec 10, 2023 6:52:34 GMT
I remember when we were relegated and Barton decided to meet fans outside the ground, which was recorded on local news. When he came in, we weren't in the relegation zone, yet we finished bottom. The fans he met listened to him, applauded him and supported him. At the same time, Lee Johnson took Sunderland from 8th into playoffs with a great run of form, but lost to Lincoln in the semis. He had to be escorted out the ground with the abuse being hurled at him. That sums up the level of support Barton got here which he would never have received at other clubs. The flack he has got since he started his Twitter crusade is not representative of the way he was treated while he was our manager. Barton has the gift of the gab, no doubt about that and he used that to great effect multiple times which bread a confidence with most that we all believed he knew what he was doing. Because he can't keep his trap shut, he couldn't wait to tell us about the awful professionalism behind the scenes, which he was probably right about and it almost felt like he was giving us some ITK stuff we have never gotten off other managers. Facts are, quite a few of us detested him being in charge but still went to support the team, some stopped going the minute he was appointed and his twitter crusade has only confirmed what some of us did say and mostly gave up saying and the supporters he did have are now looking like right mugs. It is the board of BRFC who employ the manager and not the supporters. Personally, I support the club and that includes any manager that they have employed (even MT). I would hazard a guess that the mugs (your words) are the people who employed him in the first place and the hounders whom by means of these social media platforms, not the supporters who supported the team and the manager. Isn’t that what supporters are meant to do? |
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Post by RD on Dec 10, 2023 7:10:18 GMT
Barton has the gift of the gab, no doubt about that and he used that to great effect multiple times which bread a confidence with most that we all believed he knew what he was doing. Because he can't keep his trap shut, he couldn't wait to tell us about the awful professionalism behind the scenes, which he was probably right about and it almost felt like he was giving us some ITK stuff we have never gotten off other managers. Facts are, quite a few of us detested him being in charge but still went to support the team, some stopped going the minute he was appointed and his twitter crusade has only confirmed what some of us did say and mostly gave up saying and the supporters he did have are now looking like right mugs. It is the board of BRFC who employ the manager and not the supporters. Personally, I support the club and that includes any manager that they have employed (even MT). I would hazard a guess that the mugs (your words) are the people who employed him in the first place and the hounders whom by means of these social media platforms, not the supporters who supported the team and the manager. Isn’t that what supporters are meant to do? Yeh but there's a difference between supporting the manager, and getting through several boxes of kleenex a day |
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Post by Gastafari on Dec 10, 2023 7:20:48 GMT
It is the board of BRFC who employ the manager and not the supporters. Personally, I support the club and that includes any manager that they have employed (even MT). I would hazard a guess that the mugs (your words) are the people who employed him in the first place and the hounders whom by means of these social media platforms, not the supporters who supported the team and the manager. Isn’t that what supporters are meant to do? Yeh but there's a difference between supporting the manager, and getting through several boxes of kleenex a day Quite ironic. The ones that seem to have the boxes of Kleenex now are the ones who apparently hate him. A weird obsession where they can't stop talking about him. While most of the rest of us, have moved on. |
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Post by franglais1973 on Dec 10, 2023 9:03:49 GMT
Yeh but there's a difference between supporting the manager, and getting through several boxes of kleenex a day Quite ironic. The ones that seem to have the boxes of Kleenex now are the ones who apparently hate him. A weird obsession where they can't stop talking about him. While most of the rest of us, have moved on. This |
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Post by madgas on Dec 10, 2023 9:19:08 GMT
Ultimately could of won/ should have won.
A better performance from Brown but still way off the pace. He can play football- but he's not hungry for the responsibility. Martins getting quicker but he's so wasted when he runs into the channel. We need a busier number 10 to help.
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Post by oldie on Dec 10, 2023 9:25:17 GMT
Barton has the gift of the gab, no doubt about that and he used that to great effect multiple times which bread a confidence with most that we all believed he knew what he was doing. Because he can't keep his trap shut, he couldn't wait to tell us about the awful professionalism behind the scenes, which he was probably right about and it almost felt like he was giving us some ITK stuff we have never gotten off other managers. Facts are, quite a few of us detested him being in charge but still went to support the team, some stopped going the minute he was appointed and his twitter crusade has only confirmed what some of us did say and mostly gave up saying and the supporters he did have are now looking like right mugs. It is the board of BRFC who employ the manager and not the supporters. Personally, I support the club and that includes any manager that they have employed (even MT). I would hazard a guess that the mugs (your words) are the people who employed him in the first place and the hounders whom by means of these social media platforms, not the supporters who supported the team and the manager. Isn’t that what supporters are meant to do? Interesting So you would support any person as manage regardless of their criminal background? Is that actually true? |
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Post by franglais1973 on Dec 10, 2023 9:37:30 GMT
It is the board of BRFC who employ the manager and not the supporters. Personally, I support the club and that includes any manager that they have employed (even MT). I would hazard a guess that the mugs (your words) are the people who employed him in the first place and the hounders whom by means of these social media platforms, not the supporters who supported the team and the manager. Isn’t that what supporters are meant to do? Interesting So you would support any person as manage regardless of their criminal background? Is that actually true? I didn’t employ him. So moaning or trying to impose your OWN principles on other BRFC supporters is the correct way to do it? Give over…. He who is without sin, cast the first stone. |
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Post by singupgas on Dec 10, 2023 11:02:23 GMT
Still cringing about the Thatchers end singing in very monotone voices "This is embarrassing"... I have my view on the direction of the club, but Christ, get behind the team on a Saturday.
The atmosphere is dreadful at home games, I actually prefer going away.
Surely we could must some verses of Irene, Come on you blues or give us an R, all hate city...anything. where is the big support we supposedly have.
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