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Post by thegasareback on Dec 11, 2023 22:37:43 GMT
Crewe a
Bolton a
Blackpool a
Pompey h
I can see us being out of the cup and 0 points. Those two teams on sky tonight look a cut above. Blackpool on fire and will be Crewe’s cup final who had been on a great run before Saturday, have been very good at home and maybe they had an eye on tomorrow.
With talks of dressing room disharmony already I’m slightly concerned.
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Post by pirate on Dec 11, 2023 22:48:39 GMT
The 5 games after that are Charlton H, Wycombe A, Barnsley A, Blackpool H, Oxford H.
Very tough run of fixtures coming up.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 11, 2023 22:51:00 GMT
Who's talking about dressing room disharmony? If the players are now upset JB & co have gone they should have put more effort in when he was here.
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Post by singupgas on Dec 11, 2023 22:52:46 GMT
As it appears we might have another Tisdale situation, if the player don't wake up fast and accept MT, we are in trouble.
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Post by pirate on Dec 11, 2023 22:57:48 GMT
Who's talking about dressing room disharmony? If the players are now upset JB & co have gone they should have put more effort in when he was here. If the manager has shown you a vision of how he see's your development going and convinced you to sign for the club and then leaves a couple of months later, there is bound to be a bit of uncertainty in that players mind. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 22:58:47 GMT
As it appears we might have another Tisdale situation, if the player don't wake up fast and accept MT, we are in trouble. I wouldn’t liken him to Tisdale. I’d compare it more to Penney. I don’t think we will go down but I think that we have some potentially choppy waters ahead. A win tomorrow changes everyone’s perspective though! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 22:59:40 GMT
Who's talking about dressing room disharmony? If the players are now upset JB & co have gone they should have put more effort in when he was here. If the manager has shown you a vision of how he see's your development going and convinced you to sign for the club and then leaves a couple of months later, there is bound to be a bit of uncertainty in that players mind. Players have to be used to this by now though? Especially lower league ones. We’ve not signed many players who are inexperienced and young. They all know the craic by now. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 11, 2023 23:04:47 GMT
Who's talking about dressing room disharmony? If the players are now upset JB & co have gone they should have put more effort in when he was here. Think it was repeated 3 times so became a Gaschat fact 😂 |
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Post by pirate on Dec 11, 2023 23:07:07 GMT
If the manager has shown you a vision of how he see's your development going and convinced you to sign for the club and then leaves a couple of months later, there is bound to be a bit of uncertainty in that players mind. Players have to be used to this by now though? Especially lower league ones. We’ve not signed many players who are inexperienced and young. They all know the craic by now. I know it is the nature of the industry, but If you had bought into what that manager had sold you about your development and future, human nature for some might mean you are left a bit disillusioned. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 23:10:27 GMT
Players have to be used to this by now though? Especially lower league ones. We’ve not signed many players who are inexperienced and young. They all know the craic by now. I know it is the nature of the industry, but If you had bought into what that manager had sold you about your development and future, human nature for some might mean you are left a bit disillusioned. Get what you’re saying but perhaps they should have pulled their finger out for the last manager then 🤷🏻♂️ |
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 11, 2023 23:14:06 GMT
Players have to be used to this by now though? Especially lower league ones. We’ve not signed many players who are inexperienced and young. They all know the craic by now. I know it is the nature of the industry, but If you had bought into what that manager had sold you about your development and future, human nature for some might mean you are left a bit disillusioned. But at the same time the transfer window opens in less than a month, so if they want to play after that, they have to impress the manager now. They will know the board tried to sign JCH, so no one's place is safe if they back the manager in January. It's not like most of them were performing for Barton and buying into his visions. If they did, he wouldn't have been sacked. |
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Post by albaron on Dec 11, 2023 23:27:12 GMT
I know it is the nature of the industry, but If you had bought into what that manager had sold you about your development and future, human nature for some might mean you are left a bit disillusioned. But at the same time the transfer window opens in less than a month, so if they want to play after that, they have to impress the manager now. They will know the board tried to sign JCH, so no one's place is safe if they back the manager in January. It's not like most of them were performing for Barton and buying into his visions. If they did, he wouldn't have been sacked. Do you honestly believe he was sacked on results alone -- Because I don't. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 23:30:50 GMT
But at the same time the transfer window opens in less than a month, so if they want to play after that, they have to impress the manager now. They will know the board tried to sign JCH, so no one's place is safe if they back the manager in January. It's not like most of them were performing for Barton and buying into his visions. If they did, he wouldn't have been sacked. Do you honestly believe he was sacked on results alone -- Because I don't. The results were enough but I also think the new ownership model didn’t like the bloke. |
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Post by pirate on Dec 11, 2023 23:51:21 GMT
But at the same time the transfer window opens in less than a month, so if they want to play after that, they have to impress the manager now. They will know the board tried to sign JCH, so no one's place is safe if they back the manager in January. It's not like most of them were performing for Barton and buying into his visions. If they did, he wouldn't have been sacked. Do you honestly believe he was sacked on results alone -- Because I don't. It doesn't add up to me. Things were hardly that bad this season and I said at the time we weren't far off a good side and needed more work on the training ground and a decent centre forward. If we had a finisher we would arguably have beaten Pompey, Barnsley, Lincoln and Oxford. The manager identified that issue, hence wanting to sign JCH. Sacked when we were 7 points off the playoffs after 14 games, this after the board sanctioned 12 signings in the summer, including a £300k centre half and then allowing the manager to add Chris Martin just a month before his his sacking. Hmmm. |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Dec 12, 2023 4:09:16 GMT
Imo, the players are not the problem, BRFC have an excellent squad, the problem is one the new owner, with no real explanation, sacked Joey; who brought all the best players to the club, and secondly bumbling Taylor who on arrival instantly reverted to hoofing the ball forward and chasing after it, which might have brought Team Bath and Div 2 teams some success, but no progressive sides play that way today, the current squad are set up to play through the phases and press. No wonder the players do not want to play for Tisdale 2. And yes BRFC are favourites to lose the next four games, lets hope not.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Dec 12, 2023 4:14:49 GMT
I know it is the nature of the industry, but If you had bought into what that manager had sold you about your development and future, human nature for some might mean you are left a bit disillusioned. But at the same time the transfer window opens in less than a month, so if they want to play after that, they have to impress the manager now. They will know the board tried to sign JCH, so no one's place is safe if they back the manager in January. It's not like most of them were performing for Barton and buying into his visions. If they did, he wouldn't have been sacked. When Joey left, BRFC were 7 points off the play offs, and in two cups, not bad especially as Joey has the connections to bring in players like Elliot Anderson during the January window. I hope Tisdale 2 has some sort of connection with the premiership clubs, although I doubt it as he never played at the highest level. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2023 5:43:50 GMT
Do you honestly believe he was sacked on results alone -- Because I don't. It doesn't add up to me. Things were hardly that bad this season and I said at the time we weren't far off a good side and needed more work on the training ground and a decent centre forward. If we had a finisher we would arguably have beaten Pompey, Barnsley, Lincoln and Oxford. The manager identified that issue, hence wanting to sign JCH. Sacked when we were 7 points off the playoffs after 14 games, this after the board sanctioned 12 signings in the summer, including a £300k centre half and then allowing the manager to add Chris Martin just a month before his his sacking. Hmmm. General concensus amongst the fan base was one forward away from success. Thought the day the jch deal was pulled by the club was the day Barton lost interest. His whole focus was getting him in and had built the system around him. You can see why some in the squad who signed around the vision now also have lost enthusiasm. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 12, 2023 6:14:49 GMT
But at the same time the transfer window opens in less than a month, so if they want to play after that, they have to impress the manager now. They will know the board tried to sign JCH, so no one's place is safe if they back the manager in January. It's not like most of them were performing for Barton and buying into his visions. If they did, he wouldn't have been sacked. Do you honestly believe he was sacked on results alone -- Because I don't. 4 was out of the last 25 league games wasn't good enough, especially after being backed in the market. We have had that debate before. So let's not go over it again and again. |
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Post by gasify on Dec 12, 2023 6:32:56 GMT
Players have to be used to this by now though? Especially lower league ones. We’ve not signed many players who are inexperienced and young. They all know the craic by now. I know it is the nature of the industry, but If you had bought into what that manager had sold you about your development and future, human nature for some might mean you are left a bit disillusioned. Not sure I buy into this Pirate. Any player who feels like that is acting 'entitled' and should be out on their arsenal. In working life, a new manager represents a new opportunity to show someone what you can do. To get an even better vision of the future. These players are professional, they shouldn't be side tracked by what is going on around them. They literally get paid to play football. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 12, 2023 6:40:41 GMT
But at the same time the transfer window opens in less than a month, so if they want to play after that, they have to impress the manager now. They will know the board tried to sign JCH, so no one's place is safe if they back the manager in January. It's not like most of them were performing for Barton and buying into his visions. If they did, he wouldn't have been sacked. When Joey left, BRFC were 7 points off the play offs, and in two cups, not bad especially as Joey has the connections to bring in players like Elliot Anderson during the January window. I hope Tisdale 2 has some sort of connection with the premiership clubs, although I doubt it as he never played at the highest level. That comment is laughable, you don't have to have played at the highest level, to have had contacts at that level. It's not like we were getting a stream of youngsters from the same club. Who did Newcastle loan us after Anderson? Bartons loans were getting worse every season, not better. Who did were sign on loan this season who has improved us?? Plymouths manager had never played at the top level, yet Azez choose Plymouth over us, even though it was further away from his home. All of Plymouths loan players were key in them going up. Loads of times loan players have stood out against us! At the end of the day, money talks. Plymouth got good loan players in, by paying more towards their wages. |
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