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Post by alanrg on Dec 13, 2023 14:46:11 GMT
Somebody mentioned on the forum the Leyton Orient match Wael was chatting to some fans about JCH and said that ship had sailed and he would not be joining us
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Post by Gassy on Dec 13, 2023 14:49:41 GMT
Who, realistically? And with respect to Pirate (or anyone else who replies), who has the experience and/or track record, that we could realistically sign? What I mean by this is that signing some 20 year old from Netherlands is a complete unknown. There won't be anyone with the same level of experience or track record, but maybe we could and should be looking for the next Jonson Clarke-Harris to work with and develop, like we did with him at 24-years-old? Fair point, but I guess thats the problem. A JCH striker happens what, 1 in every 20 strikers you sign? I'm not against searching for that striker, we always should be. But we already have JCH half lined up, so why take the risk? |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 13, 2023 14:53:06 GMT
There won't be anyone with the same level of experience or track record, but maybe we could and should be looking for the next Jonson Clarke-Harris to work with and develop, like we did with him at 24-years-old? Fair point, but I guess thats the problem. A JCH striker happens what, 1 in every 20 strikers you sign? I'm not against searching for that striker, we always should be. But we already have JCH half lined up, so why take the risk? The risk is spünking 800k on a player who is only playing sporadically now , is overweight and most likely on the decline at 29yrs of age . That’s a big risk in my book. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 15:05:46 GMT
Somebody mentioned on the forum the Leyton Orient match Wael was chatting to some fans about JCH and said that ship had sailed and he would not be joining us Correct. In the clubhouse before the game |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 15:06:44 GMT
There won't be anyone with the same level of experience or track record, but maybe we could and should be looking for the next Jonson Clarke-Harris to work with and develop, like we did with him at 24-years-old? Fair point, but I guess thats the problem. A JCH striker happens what, 1 in every 20 strikers you sign? I'm not against searching for that striker, we always should be. But we already have JCH half lined up, so why take the risk? We don’t have him lined iuo now. He won’t be joining imo. |
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Post by olskooltoteender on Dec 13, 2023 15:39:27 GMT
I still genuinely believe that the new owners deliberately sabotaged the signing of JCH. I think they knew Barton wouldn't be here much longer and didn't want to spend £800,000 (or however much it would be) on a player that maybe the new Manager didn't want. If Taylor decides he doesn't fit in with his model then he will then have a reasonable budget to buy someone who does. Had Rovers bought JCH Taylor would be stuck with him and not be able to buy anyone else (well, not a decent player). I have absolutely no confirmation of this and it is only my theory...but it certainly fits and could well be true. IIRC, there was a comment on another thread - possibly from Roadman, but don’t hold me to that - to the effect that Al-Saeed’s son had pulled the plug on the JCH deal at the last minute. No idea whether or not this is true though . . . |
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Post by toggsy2 on Dec 13, 2023 15:40:57 GMT
I will be very surprised to see him back as it was JB that wanted to bring him back what with all the rumours that were floating around that the new board wanted JB out when the took over, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest that the board messed the transfer deliberately knowing full well when the opportunity arose to off load JB they would.
I do think the new board will back MT in the winter window but who he brings in is anyone's guess at this stage
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Post by yattongas on Dec 13, 2023 15:45:51 GMT
I will be very surprised to see him back as it was JB that wanted to bring him back what with all the rumours that were floating around that the new board wanted JB out when the took over, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest that the board messed the transfer deliberately knowing full well when the opportunity arose to off load JB they would. I do think the new board will back MT in the winter window but who he brings in is anyone's guess at this stage Sorry but it makes absolutely no sense at all. If they wanted to “sabotage” the JCH deal , they just simply wouldn’t have put a bid in for him…..let alone put in multiple bids going up & up price . Making themselves look incompetent by not getting it over the line , getting the fan base excited only to feel badly let down at the end. Ive heard some rubbish over the yrs on here , but this one is right up there. |
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Post by toggsy2 on Dec 13, 2023 15:59:59 GMT
I will be very surprised to see him back as it was JB that wanted to bring him back what with all the rumours that were floating around that the new board wanted JB out when the took over, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest that the board messed the transfer deliberately knowing full well when the opportunity arose to off load JB they would. I do think the new board will back MT in the winter window but who he brings in is anyone's guess at this stage Sorry but it makes absolutely no sense at all. If they wanted to “sabotage” the JCH deal , they just simply wouldn’t have put a bid in for him…..let alone put in multiple bids going up & up price . Making themselves look incompetent by not getting it over the line , getting the fan base excited only to feel badly let down at the end. live heard some rubbish over the yrs on here , but this one is right up there. I think they were just keeping JB sweet until they could get rid of him, just seems all too convenient like I said there were a lot of rumours prior to him actually getting sacked . You say it makes no sense rethink it again, they didn't want to pay the price they agreed in the end to pay Posh they valued him at a much lower price so the easiest way to get out of the deal is to not submit the paperwork on time |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 13, 2023 16:02:35 GMT
Sorry but it makes absolutely no sense at all. If they wanted to “sabotage” the JCH deal , they just simply wouldn’t have put a bid in for him…..let alone put in multiple bids going up & up price . Making themselves look incompetent by not getting it over the line , getting the fan base excited only to feel badly let down at the end. live heard some rubbish over the yrs on here , but this one is right up there. I think they were just keeping JB sweet until they could get rid of him, just seems all too convenient like I said there were a lot of rumours prior to him actually getting sacked . You say it makes no sense rethink it again, they didn't want to pay the price they agreed in the end to pay Posh they valued him at a much lower price so the easiest way to get out of the deal is to not submit the paperwork on time Hanlon"s razor. |
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Post by percy on Dec 13, 2023 16:20:23 GMT
I will be very surprised to see him back as it was JB that wanted to bring him back what with all the rumours that were floating around that the new board wanted JB out when the took over, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest that the board messed the transfer deliberately knowing full well when the opportunity arose to off load JB they would. I do think the new board will back MT in the winter window but who he brings in is anyone's guess at this stage Sorry but it makes absolutely no sense at all. If they wanted to “sabotage” the JCH deal , they just simply wouldn’t have put a bid in for him…..let alone put in multiple bids going up & up price . Making themselves look incompetent by not getting it over the line , getting the fan base excited only to feel badly let down at the end. live heard some rubbish over the yrs on here , but this one is right up there. GasChat facts getting ever more laughable |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 13, 2023 16:31:53 GMT
I think they were just keeping JB sweet until they could get rid of him, just seems all too convenient like I said there were a lot of rumours prior to him actually getting sacked . You say it makes no sense rethink it again, they didn't want to pay the price they agreed in the end to pay Posh they valued him at a much lower price so the easiest way to get out of the deal is to not submit the paperwork on time Hanlon"s razor. What’s Brandon Hanlons razor gotta do with it ? |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 13, 2023 16:54:39 GMT
What’s Brandon Hanlons razor gotta do with it ? It's the best a man can get. |
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Post by Gasshole on Dec 13, 2023 17:30:48 GMT
If we’re still in with a chance of getting Jono back in, we have to take it. Man scores goals simple, he’s far from past it at 29. I just hope the JCH budget wasn’t used up on the South Stand.
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Dec 13, 2023 18:01:25 GMT
Doe's anyone think that the club will try to resign Clarke-Harris in January' or do you think that he may not be the player that Matt Taylor would want to bring in anyway? I'm only asking for polite replies as I'm not trying to cause any arguments. Personally' I'm not bothered if he comes back or not but that's just my feelings. What do you think fellow Gasheads! Would he have made a diff if we signed him , after all the missed chances YES , but for some reason I myself have gone cold on the idea. Not sure why.
That said if they did get him for a reduced price I wont be grumbling , just think there is someone else out there...but who?  |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 13, 2023 18:08:44 GMT
If we’re still in with a chance of getting Jono back in, we have to take it. Man scores goals simple, he’s far from past it at 29. I just hope the JCH budget wasn’t used up on the South Stand. Surely he’ll move somewhere in Jan as I can’t imagine he’s happy not playing and it’s the final chance for Peterborough to get a fee for him. It’ll be interesting to see how well he does at his next club either way. Also what fee is paid. |
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Post by kampucheagas on Dec 13, 2023 18:21:11 GMT
I hope we are looking at young strikers with potential
We have Martin and Marquis as the ‘old’ heads- we need 2 other, quick, different types to give us options.
If we had JCH, Martin and Marquis, that would leave us very one dimensional.
I’d test Wimbledon for their striker
Maybe with MT having operated recently in the championship he’s aware of some talent not getting in the first team who he can coax to our club.
I wouldn’t be spending over half a million on ANYONE with no sell on value.
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Post by gulfofaden on Dec 13, 2023 18:39:43 GMT
I wonder if, following a euro millions win, you could just buy a pro footballer and keep him in the back garden? He would be available for your local 5 a side or village pub team, and your kids could play football with him.
Not sure if JCH would be a wise choice for a family home, but all the same, it might be quite cool to win euro millions and win the bidding in the January window for an in demand striker 🤣
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Post by Gassy on Dec 13, 2023 18:40:40 GMT
Fair point, but I guess thats the problem. A JCH striker happens what, 1 in every 20 strikers you sign? I'm not against searching for that striker, we always should be. But we already have JCH half lined up, so why take the risk? The risk is spünking 800k on a player who is only playing sporadically now , is overweight and most likely on the decline at 29yrs of age . That’s a big risk in my book. We’re not gonna spend 800k in Jan though. He’s worth 300k now, that’s an easy punt imo. Is he actually overweight right now, or is that the same old excuse people use to slate him? Didn’t look it when I saw him playing (on highlights) the other week? |
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Post by wilkimania on Dec 13, 2023 20:09:35 GMT
Maybe I've confused interviews with terrace talk but I thought Taylor wanted a pacey striker?
Hardly describes JCH.
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