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Post by supergas on Dec 14, 2023 1:52:43 GMT
If we’re still in with a chance of getting Jono back in, we have to take it. Man scores goals simple, he’s far from past it at 29. I just hope the JCH budget wasn’t used up on the South Stand. This season so far he's got four in the league, the last one was September. Then four starts and four times coming on from the bench he's failed to score. Based on current form and if he had no history with Rovers, people on here would be up in arms if we signed him for a fee (let alone high wages) in January...and I know some people will say he's maybe unhappy there or they're not playing to his strengths which is why the stats are poor - but again, why would we want to sign a player with issues at his current club? Before anyone asks I have no idea who is better and who would want to come to play for us. But they must be out there, there are hundreds of pro and semi-pro strikers in the UK...every time I think about JCH all I can see is the fanbase being split again, the dressing room possibly having issues and if he repeats his goal tally from Peterborough's first 20 league games no progress up the league table.... |
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Post by Gasshole on Dec 14, 2023 4:51:32 GMT
If we’re still in with a chance of getting Jono back in, we have to take it. Man scores goals simple, he’s far from past it at 29. I just hope the JCH budget wasn’t used up on the South Stand. This season so far he's got four in the league, the last one was September. Then four starts and four times coming on from the bench he's failed to score. Based on current form and if he had no history with Rovers, people on here would be up in arms if we signed him for a fee (let alone high wages) in January...and I know some people will say he's maybe unhappy there or they're not playing to his strengths which is why the stats are poor - but again, why would we want to sign a player with issues at his current club? Before anyone asks I have no idea who is better and who would want to come to play for us. But they must be out there, there are hundreds of pro and semi-pro strikers in the UK...every time I think about JCH all I can see is the fanbase being split again, the dressing room possibly having issues and if he repeats his goal tally from Peterborough's first 20 league games no progress up the league table.... 26 goals in 36 games last season. We should get JCH tatoos |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Dec 14, 2023 5:05:44 GMT
I would still take him, but for no more than 300k. Problem is, its unlikely Peterborough will sell him for that. They wanted over a million for him in the summer and sell their best players for five times more than we sell ours!
It'll go down to the last day until some desperate club (there's a fair few of them in January) end up paying 750k plus for him.
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Dec 14, 2023 6:00:02 GMT
I still genuinely believe that the new owners deliberately sabotaged the signing of JCH. I think they knew Barton wouldn't be here much longer and didn't want to spend £800,000 (or however much it would be) on a player that maybe the new Manager didn't want. If Taylor decides he doesn't fit in with his model then he will then have a reasonable budget to buy someone who does. Had Rovers bought JCH Taylor would be stuck with him and not be able to buy anyone else (well, not a decent player). I have absolutely no confirmation of this and it is only my theory...but it certainly fits and could well be true. I’ve thought that since August to be fair, something about the timings, and the “I’ve got five minutes to file the paperwork “ sort of quotes looked fishy to me. £800k was a show of intent without spending the cash. Besides, the one change from August, in August there was hope, season just started, in January we have a new manager trying to get the team to some sort of respectable position in the league. The ship has sailed, both for JCH and promotion in my opinion |
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Post by phillistine on Dec 14, 2023 7:34:53 GMT
Surely Tuesday was a clear example of what can happen if you have a mobile forward line away from home and are able to sit deeper, take the pressure and respond on the break. It was such a contrast to the slow laborious predictable build up of just a couple of days earlier against Cheltenham. JCH may score goals but he is not fast and he will not cover back effectively and we can only really afford one such luxury in the team. Collins covers back when he is in the mood and Brown goes through the motions but hopefully Taylore will be able to pursuad both to work harder at that aspect of the game . I was worried that we may be conractually obliged to buy him but someone at Crewe was saying that there is no agreement in place. - allegedly came from a chat with Wael.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 8:33:17 GMT
Surely Tuesday was a clear example of what can happen if you have a mobile forward line away from home and are able to sit deeper, take the pressure and respond on the break. It was such a contrast to the slow laborious predictable build up of just a couple of days earlier against Cheltenham. JCH may score goals but he is not fast and he will not cover back effectively and we can only really afford one such luxury in the team. Collins covers back when he is in the mood and Brown goes through the motions but hopefully Taylore will be able to pursuad both to work harder at that aspect of the game . I was worried that we may be conractually obliged to buy him but someone at Crewe was saying that there is no agreement in place. - allegedly came from a chat with Wael. that's how we should have set up against Cheltenham. They had a 38 year old defender and we put Martin up top. |
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Post by gasify on Dec 14, 2023 8:38:24 GMT
Surely Tuesday was a clear example of what can happen if you have a mobile forward line away from home and are able to sit deeper, take the pressure and respond on the break. It was such a contrast to the slow laborious predictable build up of just a couple of days earlier against Cheltenham. JCH may score goals but he is not fast and he will not cover back effectively and we can only really afford one such luxury in the team. Collins covers back when he is in the mood and Brown goes through the motions but hopefully Taylore will be able to pursuad both to work harder at that aspect of the game . I was worried that we may be conractually obliged to buy him but someone at Crewe was saying that there is no agreement in place. - allegedly came from a chat with Wael. that's how we should have set up against Cheltenham. They had a 38 year old defender and we put Martin up top. Agree. I want to see an attacking performance. An intent of wanting to score goals. Any team that tries to play it out from the back should be under pressure from our forward line and will make mistakes and give opportunities. |
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Post by eric on Dec 14, 2023 8:45:14 GMT
I would still take him, but for no more than 300k. Problem is, its unlikely Peterborough will sell him for that. They wanted over a million for him in the summer and sell their best players for five times more than we sell ours! It'll go down to the last day until some desperate club (there's a fair few of them in January) end up paying 750k plus for him. The basic facts are that this is the final chance for P’Boro to recoup any money at all - £300k plus 6 months of wages for someone who is likely to be one of the divisions highest earners is a lot for any club at this level to turn their noses up at. His sale at even £300k will have a big impact on the own transfer business in January when they will be keen to strengthen and push for automatic promotion. Everyone knows transfer valuations drop off a cliff when there are only months left on a contract, there’s no way MacAnthony would expect to get £750k and he’s already said in an interview he wants any deal to be done early. I’d even go so far as to say his valuation would be different on the 1st Jan compared to 31st Jan. |
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Post by phillistine on Dec 14, 2023 9:07:46 GMT
I would still take him, but for no more than 300k. Problem is, its unlikely Peterborough will sell him for that. They wanted over a million for him in the summer and sell their best players for five times more than we sell ours! It'll go down to the last day until some desperate club (there's a fair few of them in January) end up paying 750k plus for him. The basic facts are that this is the final chance for P’Boro to recoup any money at all - £300k plus 6 months of wages for someone who is likely to be one of the divisions highest earners is a lot for any club at this level to turn their noses up at. His sale at even £300k will have a big impact on the own transfer business in January when they will be keen to strengthen and push for automatic promotion. Everyone knows transfer valuations drop off a cliff when there are only months left on a contract, there’s no way MacAnthony would expect to get £750k and he’s already said in an interview he wants any deal to be done early. I’d even go so far as to say his valuation would be different on the 1st Jan compared to 31st Jan. Mac Anthony strung Rovers along trying to get the best deal and confirmed that Wael was constantly ringing him chasing the deal. The new owner is a completely different sort of guy and i dont for one moment think that he will allow his club to dance around the Posh chairman and play his games. |
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Post by percy on Dec 14, 2023 9:14:26 GMT
Simple answer to the OP is no, wont happen.
Whether we should or shouldnt or whether he is worth X or Y will no doubt be debated long after he has moved somewhere else. Agree, Wrexham or Derby likely.
We should sign Martin, but need something different for games like Crewe and Chelts.
I would be happy to sell Brown if we can for a little cash to fund it. We have enough number 10s. Evans, Collins, Thomas, even McCormick can be used behind the main striker(s) and so far Brown not showing he has enough to force his was into the starting 11 every time,
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Post by playtowin on Dec 14, 2023 20:16:46 GMT
He also released a video telling us we were heading to the Fruit Market !!! Well there’s a reason to be economical with the truth about one when season tickets are about to go on sale. There’s no reason to tell fans we categorically will not be signing JCH in January. Except to drive the price down....start talking of wanting him back during the autumn and the price stays high. |
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Post by Quarters on Dec 14, 2023 21:01:24 GMT
Well there’s a reason to be economical with the truth about one when season tickets are about to go on sale. There’s no reason to tell fans we categorically will not be signing JCH in January. Except to drive the price down....start talking of wanting him back during the autumn and the price stays high. Best we are not desperate to sign him. Offer £100,000, if no one else comes in then maybe worth it. If Posh wait for bigger fee then go elsewhere early. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 21:05:10 GMT
Well there’s a reason to be economical with the truth about one when season tickets are about to go on sale. There’s no reason to tell fans we categorically will not be signing JCH in January. Except to drive the price down....start talking of wanting him back during the autumn and the price stays high. I’m pretty sure telling a few fans in the club house ain’t going to make D-Mac drop the price. |
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Post by oliverhelmet on Dec 14, 2023 21:10:50 GMT
Doesn’t really matter what Wael says now the AlSaeeds are running the show.
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Post by pirate on Dec 14, 2023 21:30:37 GMT
Regardless of the fee, £7.5k per week is a lot and could potentially get you 2 or 3 players when you consider some of the average salaries overseas.
Australian A-League - £3.3k p/w
South Korean K-League - £1.8k
French Ligue 2 - £2.6k
La Liga 2 - £4.8k
Bundesliga 2 - £5.1k
Serie B - £5.9k
Belgium Pro League - £5.1k
Netherlands Eredivisie - £5.6k
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Post by gasheadontour on Dec 14, 2023 21:53:22 GMT
Posh have already signed replacements for JCH.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 14, 2023 22:07:26 GMT
Simple answer to the OP is no, wont happen. Whether we should or shouldnt or whether he is worth X or Y will no doubt be debated long after he has moved somewhere else. Agree, Wrexham or Derby likely. We should sign Martin, but need something different for games like Crewe and Chelts. I would be happy to sell Brown if we can for a little cash to fund it. We have enough number 10s. Evans, Collins, Thomas, even McCormick can be used behind the main striker(s) and so far Brown not showing he has enough to force his was into the starting 11 every time, Who the hell is going to pay a transfer fee for Brown, when every time he plays he doesn't look interested? Pretty certain him starting v Cheltenham cost us the 3 pts. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 14, 2023 22:08:59 GMT
Regardless of the fee, £7.5k per week is a lot and could potentially get you 2 or 3 players when you consider some of the average salaries overseas. Australian A-League - £3.3k p/w South Korean K-League - £1.8k French Ligue 2 - £2.6k La Liga 2 - £4.8k Bundesliga 2 - £5.1k Serie B - £5.9k Belgium Pro League - £5.1k Netherlands Eredivisie - £5.6k Can you honestly see Rovers signing two decent foreign players when we haven't managed to sign one for years and don't seem to have any kind of scouting network to identify them. |
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Post by pirate on Dec 14, 2023 22:21:20 GMT
Regardless of the fee, £7.5k per week is a lot and could potentially get you 2 or 3 players when you consider some of the average salaries overseas. Australian A-League - £3.3k p/w South Korean K-League - £1.8k French Ligue 2 - £2.6k La Liga 2 - £4.8k Bundesliga 2 - £5.1k Serie B - £5.9k Belgium Pro League - £5.1k Netherlands Eredivisie - £5.6k Can you honestly see Rovers signing two decent foreign players when we haven't managed to sign one for years and don't seem to have any kind of scouting network to identify them. Why can't we put in place a scouting network to identify them? Give us a little advantage on some of our competitors maybe. Expand our options and increase the pool of players to target rather than fishing in the same limited pond. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 14, 2023 22:28:29 GMT
Can you honestly see Rovers signing two decent foreign players when we haven't managed to sign one for years and don't seem to have any kind of scouting network to identify them. Why can't we put in place a scouting network to identify them? Give us a little advantage on some of our competitors maybe. Expand our options and increase the pool of players to target rather than fishing in the same limited pond. Money . |
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