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Post by Gashead73 on Dec 13, 2023 11:42:04 GMT
Doe's anyone think that the club will try to resign Clarke-Harris in January' or do you think that he may not be the player that Matt Taylor would want to bring in anyway?
I'm only asking for polite replies as I'm not trying to cause any arguments.
Personally' I'm not bothered if he comes back or not but that's just my feelings.
What do you think fellow Gasheads!
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Post by neilv93 on Dec 13, 2023 11:46:59 GMT
I think that ship has sailed. JB wanted him and their personalities would've probably been a good match but I can't see the club now wanting to spend £750k+ on a 29yo out-of-contract striker that's not been playing much lately. He's as close to guaranteed goals as there is in L1 terms but I fancy the board will prefer a better purchase in terms of resale value etc. than JCH now. Plus, I think there'll be plenty of other interested clubs that will have their eye on a cheaper deal.
If MT is aiming towards 3-5-2 as well then I'm not sure JCH is the striker for that. I'd personally prefer we could for someone younger with pace or an Al-Hamadi type signing. I think Sam Nombe will be heavily linked.
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Post by supergas on Dec 13, 2023 11:50:21 GMT
Doe's anyone think that the club will try to resign Clarke-Harris in January' or do you think that he may not be the player that Matt Taylor would want to bring in anyway? I'm only asking for polite replies as I'm not trying to cause any arguments. Personally' I'm not bothered if he comes back or not but that's just my feelings. What do you think fellow Gasheads! I think if Taylor has any sense he'll politely decline and draw a line under this topic. Could JCH do a job for us? Potentially. Could others do the same job? Yes.
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Dec 13, 2023 11:55:12 GMT
All depends on the price I guess and whether JCH and his agent even want to try again after the last debacle. I'm still of the opinion we got cold feet at the last minute, as something just doesn't feel right about how the deal fell through.
I couldn't believe we were even linked with him and thought it would be an incredible signing at the time. On reflection it was too much money on a single player, at his age, who is not the same player as the one we remember. We may revisit, but personally I think that ship has sailed and we'll look elsewhere which I would be happy with.
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Post by bluestargas on Dec 13, 2023 11:55:57 GMT
Deal or no Deal.
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Post by yattongas on Dec 13, 2023 12:08:52 GMT
Nope
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 13, 2023 12:26:33 GMT
I think that ship has sailed. JB wanted him and their personalities would've probably been a good match but I can't see the club now wanting to spend £750k+ on a 29yo out-of-contract striker that's not been playing much lately. He's as close to guaranteed goals as there is in L1 terms but I fancy the board will prefer a better purchase in terms of resale value etc. than JCH now. Plus, I think there'll be plenty of other interested clubs that will have their eye on a cheaper deal. If MT is aiming towards 3-5-2 as well then I'm not sure JCH is the striker for that. I'd personally prefer we could for someone younger with pace or an Al-Hamadi type signing. I think Sam Nombe will be heavily linked. Personally I think JCH would be more suited in a 352 formation, when someone next to him than in Bartons system. Barton used to play a high press system and I think JCH would have struggled. That's why they wanted to sell him, as they wanted younger quicker strikers to play a high press. I still think it's a lot of money to pay for a 29 year old though! Especially if we are too far off the play offs. I would prefer to spend the money on a few younger players, with potential.
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Post by wider on Dec 13, 2023 12:29:58 GMT
We have enough problems at the club already thanks.
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Post by Gassy on Dec 13, 2023 12:37:17 GMT
Doe's anyone think that the club will try to resign Clarke-Harris in January' or do you think that he may not be the player that Matt Taylor would want to bring in anyway? I'm only asking for polite replies as I'm not trying to cause any arguments. Personally' I'm not bothered if he comes back or not but that's just my feelings. What do you think fellow Gasheads! I think if Taylor has any sense he'll politely decline and draw a line under this topic. Could JCH do a job for us? Potentially. Could others do the same job? Yes. Who, realistically? And with respect to Pirate (or anyone else who replies), who has the experience and/or track record, that we could realistically sign? What I mean by this is that signing some 20 year old from Netherlands is a complete unknown.
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Post by pirate on Dec 13, 2023 12:43:17 GMT
I think if Taylor has any sense he'll politely decline and draw a line under this topic. Could JCH do a job for us? Potentially. Could others do the same job? Yes. Who, realistically? And with respect to Pirate (or anyone else who replies), who has the experience and/or track record, that we could realistically sign? What I mean by this is that signing some 20 year old from Netherlands is a complete unknown. There won't be anyone with the same level of experience or track record, but maybe we could and should be looking for the next Jonson Clarke-Harris to work with and develop, like we did with him at 24-years-old?
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Post by oldmarket65 on Dec 13, 2023 12:47:53 GMT
Another question could be . Do u think the board will allow the manager this so called 800k to spend on players ?.
Personally I think it will be No and No !.
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Post by titchthephot on Dec 13, 2023 12:57:24 GMT
I still genuinely believe that the new owners deliberately sabotaged the signing of JCH. I think they knew Barton wouldn't be here much longer and didn't want to spend £800,000 (or however much it would be) on a player that maybe the new Manager didn't want. If Taylor decides he doesn't fit in with his model then he will then have a reasonable budget to buy someone who does. Had Rovers bought JCH Taylor would be stuck with him and not be able to buy anyone else (well, not a decent player). I have absolutely no confirmation of this and it is only my theory...but it certainly fits and could well be true.
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Post by playtowin on Dec 13, 2023 12:57:31 GMT
Another question could be . Do u think the board will allow the manager this so called 800k to spend on players ?. Personally I think it will be No and No !. When questioned about the potential for jch and whether the new manager would get a similar budget. The answer seemed more along the lines of unlikely and more likely to strengthen other areas. Spending that budget was also played down. If we have little chance of the playoffs im guessing funds will be limited.
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Post by pennardgas on Dec 13, 2023 13:02:30 GMT
Another question could be . Do u think the board will allow the manager this so called 800k to spend on players ?. Personally I think it will be No and No !. I think that very much depends where we are mid January. If we do well against the top sides we have coming up, they may say yes to a big spend. Similarly if we are hovering above relegation. If we're still comfortable mid table and don't look like we're going anywhere, there'll be a smaller spend and a build for next season. Either way, if it were my £800k, I wouldn't spend it on JCH, not at this stage of his career anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 13:04:53 GMT
Owners pulled the plug on that one. Certainly wont be spending on him now just to stay mid table this season
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Dec 13, 2023 13:16:13 GMT
A club our current size with no way of sustaining championship football? - it would have been madness to pay £800,000 along with making him our highest ever earner. No resale value for a player approaching 30, and you get someone who there are already some signs that his career is a little on the wain. If we did pull the plug on that deal then that’s another thing that the new owners have got right, along with the Barton sacking.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 13:18:36 GMT
Unless a price has been agreed already then absolutely No.
Lots of talk about us pulling out at the last minute or the HR Woman mis- spelling his name on the paperwork ( both correct i think) but also hearing mutterings about a disagreement between the VP and the Agent which didn't end with a handshake.
JCH was all about the previous manager and I think MT will have his own ideas one of which i personally hope is Mighty Sam Nombe.
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Post by socrates on Dec 13, 2023 13:30:31 GMT
If his contracts up in the summer then I’d offer Peterbro around 300k and and JCH a two year deal but not on massive wages. I very much doubt we’d be getting a JCH as prolific as we had before. Horses for courses.
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Post by richie on Dec 13, 2023 13:58:59 GMT
I'd still sign him but not for 700k, like whats been said, hes not played much (we know his condition isnt maintained well). 6 months on his contract, he wont be short of takers in ?Jan with teams looking to push for promotion or avoid relegation.
fact is that hes much much better than what we have already. Wasnt too long ago people were calling for us to sign Dom Telford, thank god we didnt, imagine if we were planning what striker we wanted instead of a manager looking at players theyve managed or past players.
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Post by fanboy on Dec 13, 2023 14:12:36 GMT
I still genuinely believe that the new owners deliberately sabotaged the signing of JCH. I think they knew Barton wouldn't be here much longer and didn't want to spend £800,000 (or however much it would be) on a player that maybe the new Manager didn't want. If Taylor decides he doesn't fit in with his model then he will then have a reasonable budget to buy someone who does. Had Rovers bought JCH Taylor would be stuck with him and not be able to buy anyone else (well, not a decent player). I have absolutely no confirmation of this and it is only my theory...but it certainly fits and could well be true. If they didn't believe Joey would be here, they would have sacked him at the time.
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