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Post by pirate on Jan 10, 2024 15:13:15 GMT
We agreed a deal with JCH and his representative with plenty of time left to submit the paperwork. Until the goal posts were moved in the final hours…. No, I'm talking about AFTER the goalposts were moved. We agreed a deal. |
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Post by yattongas on Jan 10, 2024 15:17:08 GMT
Until the goal posts were moved in the final hours…. No, I'm talking about AFTER the goalposts were moved. We agreed a deal. Yes but my point is , by demanding more money right at the death it caused problems/ delays and pushed things just that bit too far…..hence the deal wasn’t signed sealed and delivered in the timeframe. Either way , NONE of us knows what really happened. We’re all just guessing. |
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Post by pirate on Jan 10, 2024 15:26:36 GMT
No, I'm talking about AFTER the goalposts were moved. We agreed a deal. Yes but my point is , by demanding more money right at the death it caused problems/ delays and pushed things just that bit too far…..hence the deal wasn’t signed sealed and delivered in the timeframe. Either way , NONE of us knows what really happened. We’re all just guessing. An hour is more than enough time to get the paperwork through, we even had the Peterborough head of football operations Liz Elsom helpfully doing paperwork in advance to ensure that the deal went through on time and even reminded us a emergency extension was possible. As I said previously, your guess is as good as mine as to why the request for a 15-minute extension was lodged at 11:01pm and the transfer itself at 11:17pm. Very strange. |
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Post by stevek192 on Jan 10, 2024 15:41:10 GMT
Probably because the owners had no intention of the deal going through and spending that money .It was probably a usual smoke screen to make us think they were prepared to put the money in but really werent. Now they come out and say we are going for the Premiership but without real financial clout the only place we will end up is back in League 2 or at the best a mid table League 1 club.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 10, 2024 15:47:06 GMT
Probably because the owners had no intention of the deal going through and spending that money .It was probably a usual smoke screen to make us think they were prepared to put the money in but really werent. Now they come out and say we are going for the Premiership but without real financial clout the only place we will end up is back in League 2 or at the best a mid table League 1 club. They didn't come out and say we were going to the Premier league, they were asked if we could ever make it. If asked the question, most owners are going to say it's possible. You don't know what our financial clout is, none of us do! Martin would have been on an half decent wage though and was brought in because the deal collapsed. Taylor will be on an okay wage, as will Brown (although he's not earned it yet!), Hunt and Friend etc won't be on peanuts either. |
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Post by stevek192 on Jan 10, 2024 16:08:37 GMT
You are defending the owners who so far have proved nothing whatsoever. I have followed Rovers too long to have any great hopes with them. I still wouldn't expect the Tilson record transfer to be broken- who would have thought when we signed him 30+ years ago that he would still be the record signing now!! Absolute farce the gap that has come about between us and City in that time. Anyway where they intend to take us will become clearer in the next couple of months.
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Post by gascloud on Jan 10, 2024 16:28:52 GMT
You are defending the owners who so far have proved nothing whatsoever. I have followed Rovers too long to have any great hopes with them. I still wouldn't expect the Tilson record transfer to be broken- who would have thought when we signed him 30+ years ago that he would still be the record signing now!! Absolute farce the gap that has come about between us and City in that time. Anyway where they intend to take us will become clearer in the next couple of months. The gap between us and City has more to do with their owner rather than ours, past or present. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 10, 2024 20:39:17 GMT
Probably because the owners had no intention of the deal going through and spending that money .It was probably a usual smoke screen to make us think they were prepared to put the money in but really werent. Now they come out and say we are going for the Premiership but without real financial clout the only place we will end up is back in League 2 or at the best a mid table League 1 club. Can you define "real financial clout" given Wael ploughed though £3m of his money each year how much do you really expect Rovers owners to spend on the club? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 10, 2024 20:45:40 GMT
"It’s understood representatives of Clarke-Harris have talked terms with Charlton and a generous salary package is on the table, but the player could wait to see if better offers come in before the transfer window closes at the end of the month.
But that would be dependent on another club agreeing to the asking price, something Posh believe won’t happen for a player who has been on the transfer list for the best part of a year.
It’s now thought wealthy League Two promotion fancies Wrexham did show an interest in a double Golden Boot winner, but are now looking elsewhere"
JCH waiting for Rovers to make another move or just waiting for any further offers?
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Post by gasheadontour on Jan 10, 2024 21:59:55 GMT
Posh are in a weak position. They will have to accept whatever fee they can get from whichever club JCH wants to go too. Charlton etc could easily go back to Posh to reduce the fee so to offer JCH better terms.
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Jan 10, 2024 22:07:27 GMT
You are defending the owners who so far have proved nothing whatsoever. I have followed Rovers too long to have any great hopes with them. I still wouldn't expect the Tilson record transfer to be broken- who would have thought when we signed him 30+ years ago that he would still be the record signing now!! Absolute farce the gap that has come about between us and City in that time. Anyway where they intend to take us will become clearer in the next couple of months. They were willing to pay 800k to get JCH in the summer, it was personal terms change by the agent which scuppered that deal not the owners. The new south stand and all the new signings in the summer weren’t wished out of thin air either. give the new guys a chance, they seem keen and have been willing to front the money for things. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 10, 2024 22:11:54 GMT
You are defending the owners who so far have proved nothing whatsoever. I have followed Rovers too long to have any great hopes with them. I still wouldn't expect the Tilson record transfer to be broken- who would have thought when we signed him 30+ years ago that he would still be the record signing now!! Absolute farce the gap that has come about between us and City in that time. Anyway where they intend to take us will become clearer in the next couple of months.
The new south stand and all the new signings in the summer weren’t wished out of thin air either. give the new guys a chance, they seem keen and have been willing to front the money for things. We've no real proof that was the case, if it was why have both sides put it down to issues with the paperwork? The new stand was signed off before the new owners came on board. As Steve suggests this month will be a good pointer, so far, it's not looking that exciting. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 10, 2024 22:14:40 GMT
Posh are in a weak position. They will have to accept whatever fee they can get from whichever club JCH wants to go too. Charlton etc could easily go back to Posh to reduce the fee so to offer JCH better terms. I was wondering where they'd stand now if another club came in and offered JCH £1K a week more over 2 years but cut the transfer fee by £100K, as I can't see JCH would ever accept the lower figure. |
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Post by phillistine on Jan 10, 2024 22:50:57 GMT
Probably because the owners had no intention of the deal going through and spending that money .It was probably a usual smoke screen to make us think they were prepared to put the money in but really werent. Now they come out and say we are going for the Premiership but without real financial clout the only place we will end up is back in League 2 or at the best a mid table League 1 club. "Probably because".... "It was probably a"........"but without the real financial clout" Your whole argument is based on your personal assumptions and suppositions and then have the cheek to say that the owners have proved nothing . Is writing off milions of pounds of debts- nothing ? is the new stand nothing? Is the new training ground - nothing? i dont know what happened late in the summer but one thing that that seems clear is that the new owner is a shrewd bussinesman who does not mess around. Ignoring eveything else that he has done with his life we only have to look at his tenure with Rovers to see that he had one meeting about the Fruit Market decided it would not work for the Gas and pulled the plug. He didnt seem impressed by the rhetoric of JB and he was dismissed even though this meant a compensation package. He inherited a problem with the South Stand and took a calculated risk by appointing specialist consulatants to redraw the plans and then started a build even before planning had been granted . The reality is that if he truly believed that JCH would get us promotion then he would see him as an investment and sign him. |
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Post by gulfofaden on Jan 11, 2024 5:28:10 GMT
Probably because the owners had no intention of the deal going through and spending that money .It was probably a usual smoke screen to make us think they were prepared to put the money in but really werent. Now they come out and say we are going for the Premiership but without real financial clout the only place we will end up is back in League 2 or at the best a mid table League 1 club. Sure, the club wasted all that time and effort for a bizzare PR stunt. Selling Ryan Loft in was part of the smokescreen. The new stand actually is a hologram and another PR stunt, we will soon find if it’s real at all, that it’s made from discarded Pringle tubes. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 11, 2024 6:14:38 GMT
You are defending the owners who so far have proved nothing whatsoever. I have followed Rovers too long to have any great hopes with them. I still wouldn't expect the Tilson record transfer to be broken- who would have thought when we signed him 30+ years ago that he would still be the record signing now!! Absolute farce the gap that has come about between us and City in that time. Anyway where they intend to take us will become clearer in the next couple of months. I've just said that a lot of the players will be on an okay wage. They have not been here for long, so we can't judge them either way. Taylor said it's the first time he's been at a club, where he doesn't have to try and develop players to reinvest. Looking into new stands and try improve the training ground etc. Looking into things is one thing, but I'm going to judge them in a years time. Have they started any more projects, are they backing the manager etc. Can't write them off, because of one failed transfer. |
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Post by gasify on Jan 11, 2024 6:48:21 GMT
Probably because the owners had no intention of the deal going through and spending that money .It was probably a usual smoke screen to make us think they were prepared to put the money in but really werent. Now they come out and say we are going for the Premiership but without real financial clout the only place we will end up is back in League 2 or at the best a mid table League 1 club. Sure, the club wasted all that time and effort for a bizzare PR stunt. Selling Ryan Loft in was part of the smokescreen. The new stand actually is a hologram and another PR stunt, we will soon find if it’s real at all, that it’s made from discarded Pringle tubes. Now you come to mention it, I've never seen it filled with fans. You might be onto something here. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 11, 2024 7:44:07 GMT
You are defending the owners who so far have proved nothing whatsoever. I have followed Rovers too long to have any great hopes with them. I still wouldn't expect the Tilson record transfer to be broken- who would have thought when we signed him 30+ years ago that he would still be the record signing now!! Absolute farce the gap that has come about between us and City in that time. Anyway where they intend to take us will become clearer in the next couple of months. I've just said that a lot of the players will be on an okay wage. They have not been here for long, so we can't judge them either way. Taylor said it's the first time he's been at a club, where he doesn't have to try and develop players to reinvest. Looking into new stands and try improve the training ground etc. Looking into things is one thing, but I'm going to judge them in a years time. Have they started any more projects, are they backing the manager etc. Can't write them off, because of one failed transfer. I thought MT spent £1m+ on transfer fees this summer at Rotherham? www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk/sport/football/rotherham-united/why-manager-matt-taylor-wants-rotherham-united-to-spend-more-than-a-ps1-million-on-a-player-again-4314627Not sure you can believe a word anybody says in football anymore. As far as judging them in a year's time, from past experience you'll be still saying everything is perfect regardless of what they do. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2024 9:26:14 GMT
Charlton v Peterborough this weekend. Will he be squeezing into a 50 50 shirt for the game or going in a taxi around the country trying to find any more clubs for another pound a week to satisfy his demands
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 11, 2024 10:04:00 GMT
I've just said that a lot of the players will be on an okay wage. They have not been here for long, so we can't judge them either way. Taylor said it's the first time he's been at a club, where he doesn't have to try and develop players to reinvest. Looking into new stands and try improve the training ground etc. Looking into things is one thing, but I'm going to judge them in a years time. Have they started any more projects, are they backing the manager etc. Can't write them off, because of one failed transfer. I thought MT spent £1m+ on transfer fees this summer at Rotherham? www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk/sport/football/rotherham-united/why-manager-matt-taylor-wants-rotherham-united-to-spend-more-than-a-ps1-million-on-a-player-again-4314627Not sure you can believe a word anybody says in football anymore. As far as judging them in a year's time, from past experience you'll be still saying everything is perfect regardless of what they do. That's nothing at that level. Plymouth spent a few million as well, but still lost their manager to another championship club. Taylor didn't say he had no money to spend. He said it was the first time he didn't have to develope players to sell on to reinvest. He made it sound like he would be backed when needed and wouldn't be forced to sell players. |
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