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Post by stevek192 on Jan 15, 2024 22:16:53 GMT
The fact is that all the better young players are being picked up by City and will continue to be irrespective of what teams we have. We hardly have the Backroom staff to run the teams we do have!
Best to save the cost and continue the present trend of signing players from other clubs. Any decent players we might get through development teams are lost to higher clubs before they get anywhere near our first team.
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Post by pirate on Jan 16, 2024 1:42:09 GMT
There's no real evidence we are in for a 30 year old, or for that matter any team at our level as a DS set up. Have you just come up with something else to hit our owners with, when the rest of us are just interested in us signing a few quality players during this window. The club claimed we were previously in for a record transfer for a soon to be 30-year-old in the last window (the man the thread is about lol), but you can believe what you like. Sorry, not sure what you mean by "or for that matter any team at our level as a DS set up"? 🤷🏻♂️ |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jan 16, 2024 4:42:35 GMT
I’m amazed he hasn’t been snapped up by either a club aiming to get to the championship (Derby? Bolton? Pompey?) or a championship club looking to desperately survive (QPR? Stoke?) I guess the guy is happy to wait for the summer if needs be, he will obviously go to the club that offers him his last professional pay day It looks from the outside that we are not going to splash much cash (if any) this window, and MT will have a keen eye on next seasons budget Fast unknown loan striker for me, along side a commanding CB and a CDM UTG I am sure the desperate clubs will look at him right at the end of the window. He is more likely to get the wage he wants that way as well. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 16, 2024 9:12:23 GMT
I really hope JCH Stays at Peterborough right until the end of his contract & they get F/all. Let’s be fair though, it does seem that the player has been a messer in this or his agent is trying his hand at getting more money. I don’t think it would do any striker much good to be not in first team plans while he waits out his contract |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 16, 2024 9:14:10 GMT
There's no real evidence we are in for a 30 year old, or for that matter any team at our level as a DS set up. Have you just come up with something else to hit our owners with, when the rest of us are just interested in us signing a few quality players during this window. The club claimed we were previously in for a record transfer for a soon to be 30-year-old in the last window (the man the thread is about lol), but you can believe what you like. Sorry, not sure what you mean by "or for that matter any team at our level as a DS set up"? 🤷🏻♂️ Dwane sports ? |
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Post by pirate on Jan 16, 2024 9:15:48 GMT
The club claimed we were previously in for a record transfer for a soon to be 30-year-old in the last window (the man the thread is about lol), but you can believe what you like. Sorry, not sure what you mean by "or for that matter any team at our level as a DS set up"? 🤷🏻♂️ Dwane sports ? No idea. Maybe it's just the way I'm reading it, but doesn't make much sense to me. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 16, 2024 9:16:48 GMT
No idea. Maybe it's just the way I'm reading it, but doesn't make much sense to me. Likewise but just a guess |
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Post by percy on Jan 16, 2024 9:21:46 GMT
No idea. Maybe it's just the way I'm reading it, but doesn't make much sense to me. Likewise but just a guess (h)as a DS (development squad) set up would be my guess seeing thats what the discussion was! |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 16, 2024 9:22:41 GMT
Likewise but just a guess (h)as a DS (development squad) set up would be my guess seeing thats what the discussion was! That makes sense. Thanks |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 16, 2024 9:28:54 GMT
No idea. Maybe it's just the way I'm reading it, but doesn't make much sense to me. I think it should read "[h]as a development squad." Edit: Percy got there first. 👍 |
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Post by pirate on Jan 16, 2024 9:30:32 GMT
Likewise but just a guess (h)as a DS (development squad) set up would be my guess seeing thats what the discussion was! But I already pointed out several instances of DS's at this level with Wycombe's record fee recieved being from a DS graduate. That's why there is confusion from my end. |
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 16, 2024 9:32:24 GMT
The fact is that all the better young players are being picked up by City and will continue to be irrespective of what teams we have. We hardly have the Backroom staff to run the teams we do have! Best to save the cost and continue the present trend of signing players from other clubs. Any decent players we might get through development teams are lost to higher clubs before they get anywhere near our first team. That's really not the case though, Rovers went through a near 20 year period of having an ex-Academy player in the match day squad until Ben Garner (developer of young players) ended that. When you think of the professional players we've brought through to play 100+ League games in the last 20 years it's something we as a club should be very proud of and use as a selling point; Sinclair, Lockyer, Lines, O Clarke, Harrison, Broom, Kilgour, Rigg, Richards and Macey. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 16, 2024 9:35:31 GMT
The fact is that all the better young players are being picked up by City and will continue to be irrespective of what teams we have. We hardly have the Backroom staff to run the teams we do have! Best to save the cost and continue the present trend of signing players from other clubs. Any decent players we might get through development teams are lost to higher clubs before they get anywhere near our first team. That's really not the case though, Rovers went through a near 20 year period of having an ex-Academy player in the match day squad until Ben Garner (developer of young players) ended that. When you think of the professional players we've brought through to play 100+ League games in the last 20 years it's something we as a club should be very proud of and use as a selling point; Sinclair, Lockyer, Lines, O Clarke, Harrison, Broom, Kilgour, Rigg, Richards and Macey. Would Zamora be one of these too ? |
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 16, 2024 9:53:21 GMT
That's really not the case though, Rovers went through a near 20 year period of having an ex-Academy player in the match day squad until Ben Garner (developer of young players) ended that. When you think of the professional players we've brought through to play 100+ League games in the last 20 years it's something we as a club should be very proud of and use as a selling point; Sinclair, Lockyer, Lines, O Clarke, Harrison, Broom, Kilgour, Rigg, Richards and Macey. Would Zamora be one of these too ? Bobby left 24 years ago so, I thought that was a bit far. All the players mentioned are still playing at some level. |
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Post by gasheadontour on Jan 16, 2024 10:04:41 GMT
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Post by pirate on Jan 16, 2024 10:06:35 GMT
Would Zamora be one of these too ? Bobby left 24 years ago so, I thought that was a bit far. All the players mentioned are still playing at some level. A few years ago Training Ground Guru site did a productivity study. The rankings are the only publicly-available resource of their kind and rank Academies from Categories One to Three based on the number of England-qualified graduates who made at least one league appearance in the Premier League, Football League or National League in the 2021/22 season. Bristol Rovers ranked 75th best out of 80 clubs. trainingground.guru/articles/2021/22-academy-productivity-rankings-chelsea-top-for-first-time |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 16, 2024 10:27:16 GMT
Bobby left 24 years ago so, I thought that was a bit far. All the players mentioned are still playing at some level. A few years ago Training Ground Guru site did a productivity study. The rankings are the only publicly-available resource of their kind and rank Academies from Categories One to Three based on the number of England-qualified graduates who made at least one league appearance in the Premier League, Football League or National League in the 2021/22 season. Bristol Rovers ranked 75th best out of 80 clubs. trainingground.guru/articles/2021/22-academy-productivity-rankings-chelsea-top-for-first-timeView AttachmentBlimey, there seems to be analysis of every single aspect in football now. I knew we were not doing great but I would never have thought we were that low but the, look at the amount the 82 have spent and they are number 34. |
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 16, 2024 10:30:33 GMT
Bobby left 24 years ago so, I thought that was a bit far. All the players mentioned are still playing at some level. A few years ago Training Ground Guru site did a productivity study. The rankings are the only publicly-available resource of their kind and rank Academies from Categories One to Three based on the number of England-qualified graduates who made at least one league appearance in the Premier League, Football League or National League in the 2021/22 season. Bristol Rovers ranked 75th best out of 80 clubs. trainingground.guru/articles/2021/22-academy-productivity-rankings-chelsea-top-for-first-timeView AttachmentWithout having the numbers to hand comparatively I think Clarke, Lockyer and Harrison collectively playing 761 games for the club after breaking through at a similar time is probably something we won't see again. All three greatly underappreciated while at the club as well. In recent years it's certainly dried up a bit which, is a real shame. |
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Post by pirate on Jan 16, 2024 10:33:45 GMT
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 16, 2024 10:37:52 GMT
Everson joined us two years after Bobby left... |
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