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Post by percy on Feb 2, 2024 8:40:27 GMT
I think someone said 5 loans in the match day squad is the limit. And whilst Cox probably isnt starting anytime soon, you would expect him on the bench? Which means each game one of Vale, Crama, Baggott, Vaughan or Aguilera can't be in the squad. Not sure that's very clever on our part.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2024 8:44:26 GMT
I think someone said 5 loans in the match day squad is the limit. And whilst Cox probably isnt starting anytime soon, you would expect him on the bench? Which means each game one of Vale, Crama, Baggott, Vaughan or Aguilera can't be in the squad. Not sure that's very clever on our part. Good post and point Percy!! Jules, Disley was talking about Conteh While EFL rules permit clubs to register up to eight loan players each season, clubs are only permitted to name five in each individual match-day squad of 18 |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 2, 2024 8:57:35 GMT
I think someone said 5 loans in the match day squad is the limit. And whilst Cox probably isnt starting anytime soon, you would expect him on the bench? Which means each game one of Vale, Crama, Baggott, Vaughan or Aguilera can't be in the squad. Not sure that's very clever on our part. We could possibly break that down further. Vale and Crama are starters at the moment, presumably Baggott is required for cover at least. Basically, that would mean Vaughan and Aguilera will have to rotate. |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Feb 2, 2024 9:01:13 GMT
In one breath the Rovers owners say they believe the club can get in the premiership, and then within a couple of months sell a striker and bring in a group of in experienced loans with no marquee replacement for Azza; effectively, the season is now over even though Rovers are not safe from another relegation. I really hope Taylor knows what he is doing, although if Martin gets injured I doubt the team will be pushing for promotion, which is what we were promised at the beginning of the season.
With £750k burning a hole in their pockets I do not understand why the club did not go back for JCH, maybe in the summer when the club is going to rebuild, what ever that really means. Ground hog day.
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Post by eric on Feb 2, 2024 9:10:05 GMT
The bulk of transfer business should be done in the summer when the market is a bit less mad. However, we now have a pretty dead last few months of the season (unless things really go belly up and we get dragged into a relegation fight) and while it may give us some entertainment if any of the loans turn out to be a new Eliot Anderson none will be coming back on permanent moves.
We now have a situation where half our team for the rest of the season are likely to be loans who then return to their parent clubs. We have players running out of contract in the summer and others MT won’t fancy and will try to move on. This means a massive summer rebuild.
Personally, I’d have liked 3 permanent signings at least during this window, players who MT would view as likely starters for a promotion push next season. This will have enabled them to gel with the current nailed on starters and have a settled base for next year. As it stands we could have a virtually new team all starting their rovers careers at the same time in the summer - will they be able to hit the ground running? It’s a big ask and my fear is that by Christmas we’ll be saying the team still need time to gel and promotion is written off for another season.
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Post by Quarters on Feb 2, 2024 9:10:43 GMT
I think someone said 5 loans in the match day squad is the limit. And whilst Cox probably isnt starting anytime soon, you would expect him on the bench? Which means each game one of Vale, Crama, Baggott, Vaughan or Aguilera can't be in the squad. Not sure that's very clever on our part. We could possibly break that down further. Vale and Crama are starters at the moment, presumably Baggott is required for cover at least. Basically, that would mean Vaughan and Aguilera will have to rotate. Or could gamble and put Hall on bench instead of Cox if Jed is selected. |
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Post by Quarters on Feb 2, 2024 9:13:45 GMT
The bulk of transfer business should be done in the summer when the market is a bit less mad. However, we now have a pretty dead last few months of the season (unless things really go belly up and we get dragged into a relegation fight) and while it may give us some entertainment if any of the loans turn out to be a new Eliot Anderson none will be coming back on permanent moves. We now have a situation where half our team for the rest of the season are likely to be loans who then return to their parent clubs. We have players running out of contract in the summer and others MT won’t fancy and will try to move on. This means a massive summer rebuild. Personally, I’d have liked 3 permanent signings at least during this window, players who MT would view as likely starters for a promotion push next season. This will have enabled them to gel with the current nailed on starters and have a settled base for next year. As it stands we could have a virtually new team all starting their rovers careers at the same time in the summer - will they be able to hit the ground running? It’s a big ask and my fear is that by Christmas we’ll be saying the team still need time to gel and promotion is written off for another season. There will be players available in the summer that are not available now, which means we may get better players in then than now. |
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Post by Fetch on Feb 2, 2024 9:14:31 GMT
In one breath the Rovers owners say they believe the club can get in the premiership, and then within a couple of months sell a striker and bring in a group of in experienced loans with no marquee replacement for Azza; effectively, the season is now over even though Rovers are not safe from another relegation. I really hope Taylor knows what he is doing, although if Martin gets injured I doubt the team will be pushing for promotion, which is what we were promised at the beginning of the season. With £750k burning a hole in their pockets I do not understand why the club did not go back for JCH, maybe in the summer when the club is going to rebuild, what ever that really means. Ground hog day. MT has said it wouldn't make sense to blow the Collins money on deadline day, where panic buying is rife and prices are inflated - and I'd agree in a season which is looking like a cruise to 12th place. That money will go so much farther for us in the summer. |
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Post by DrFaustus on Feb 2, 2024 9:21:59 GMT
In one breath the Rovers owners say they believe the club can get in the premiership, and then within a couple of months sell a striker and bring in a group of in experienced loans with no marquee replacement for Azza; effectively, the season is now over even though Rovers are not safe from another relegation. I really hope Taylor knows what he is doing, although if Martin gets injured I doubt the team will be pushing for promotion, which is what we were promised at the beginning of the season. With £750k burning a hole in their pockets I do not understand why the club did not go back for JCH, maybe in the summer when the club is going to rebuild, what ever that really means. Ground hog day. Are you generally happy with the signings then, you little ray of aunshine, you? |
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Post by gascloud on Feb 2, 2024 9:27:21 GMT
750k burning a hole in the owners pocket? I think there are bigger holes in our finances than the lining of their pockets😂
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Post by returnofthedust on Feb 2, 2024 9:28:17 GMT
Why do people keep saying there’s 750k burning a hole?
We spent 300k of this money on Conteh, it was known for a while Collins would be on his way this window.
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Feb 2, 2024 9:33:36 GMT
What about the circa £1m we were rumoured to be spending on JCH that was never spent last window?
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Post by trevorgas on Feb 2, 2024 9:34:01 GMT
In one breath the Rovers owners say they believe the club can get in the premiership, and then within a couple of months sell a striker and bring in a group of in experienced loans with no marquee replacement for Azza; effectively, the season is now over even though Rovers are not safe from another relegation. I really hope Taylor knows what he is doing, although if Martin gets injured I doubt the team will be pushing for promotion, which is what we were promised at the beginning of the season. With £750k burning a hole in their pockets I do not understand why the club did not go back for JCH, maybe in the summer when the club is going to rebuild, what ever that really means. Ground hog day. Did you not see the posts last night we tried to get two experienced strikers in however,both rejected the move,not sure what else we could do. January is not a good window for loads of players being available,JCH is not what we need in my view,need someone younger and more mobile in the Summer to rebuild the team. We have goals in the team a d we have brought in two loans that I hope make chances for Martin ,we know if he gets them he scores at a good rate UTG |
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Post by gasify on Feb 2, 2024 9:42:11 GMT
In one breath the Rovers owners say they believe the club can get in the premiership, and then within a couple of months sell a striker and bring in a group of in experienced loans with no marquee replacement for Azza; effectively, the season is now over even though Rovers are not safe from another relegation. I really hope Taylor knows what he is doing, although if Martin gets injured I doubt the team will be pushing for promotion, which is what we were promised at the beginning of the season. With £750k burning a hole in their pockets I do not understand why the club did not go back for JCH, maybe in the summer when the club is going to rebuild, what ever that really means. Ground hog day. MT didn't promise that. Why pay £750k for JCH now when you could pay nothing in July? JCH is an expensive player. He will be at the top end of our wage structure. I'm not sure it's the best use of our funds any more. |
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Post by gasify on Feb 2, 2024 9:47:27 GMT
The bulk of transfer business should be done in the summer when the market is a bit less mad. However, we now have a pretty dead last few months of the season (unless things really go belly up and we get dragged into a relegation fight) and while it may give us some entertainment if any of the loans turn out to be a new Eliot Anderson none will be coming back on permanent moves. We now have a situation where half our team for the rest of the season are likely to be loans who then return to their parent clubs. We have players running out of contract in the summer and others MT won’t fancy and will try to move on. This means a massive summer rebuild.Personally, I’d have liked 3 permanent signings at least during this window, players who MT would view as likely starters for a promotion push next season. This will have enabled them to gel with the current nailed on starters and have a settled base for next year. As it stands we could have a virtually new team all starting their rovers careers at the same time in the summer - will they be able to hit the ground running? It’s a big ask and my fear is that by Christmas we’ll be saying the team still need time to gel and promotion is written off for another season. I think this is a positive thing. MT will have the opportunity to build the squad to the way he wants to play. There are more options in the summer and more value, so why not. When it comes needingvthe time to 'Gel'. I think we might have been sold a bit of a line with that one. Only two teams I can think off in this situation was Bolton a couple of seasons back and us. For us it wasn't the gelling that got us the promotion, it was the January reinforcement loans. Mainly EA. |
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Post by gassedOut on Feb 2, 2024 9:50:33 GMT
JCH is Past and not what we want going forwards. I don't think he is in our plans going forwards. We need hungry runners that score goals and will work hard for the Team, not goal 30 year old goal hangers that dont work hard.
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Post by Gassy on Feb 2, 2024 9:50:41 GMT
In one breath the Rovers owners say they believe the club can get in the premiership, and then within a couple of months sell a striker and bring in a group of in experienced loans with no marquee replacement for Azza; effectively, the season is now over even though Rovers are not safe from another relegation. I really hope Taylor knows what he is doing, although if Martin gets injured I doubt the team will be pushing for promotion, which is what we were promised at the beginning of the season. With £750k burning a hole in their pockets I do not understand why the club did not go back for JCH, maybe in the summer when the club is going to rebuild, what ever that really means. Ground hog day. MT has said it wouldn't make sense to blow the Collins money on deadline day, where panic buying is rife and prices are inflated - and I'd agree in a season which is looking like a cruise to 12th place. That money will go so much farther for us in the summer. But yet again, how come we can’t sell our players for inflated deadline day prices, but we’re held to ransom when we want to buy? I think Collins went for a fair price, but at the same time we’re told deadline day prices are inflated. Just feels like we always lose out |
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Post by gasify on Feb 2, 2024 9:53:17 GMT
MT has said it wouldn't make sense to blow the Collins money on deadline day, where panic buying is rife and prices are inflated - and I'd agree in a season which is looking like a cruise to 12th place. That money will go so much farther for us in the summer. But yet again, how come we can’t sell our players for inflated deadline day prices, but we’re held to ransom when we want to buy? I think Collins went for a fair price, but at the same time we’re told deadline day prices are inflated. Just feels like we always lose out You are assuming it's all about the transfer fees. Its a combination of transfer fee and players wages. My guess is that the two strikers that turned us down, did so due to wages and we weren't prepared to meet their demands. I bet Collins got a pretty good pay rise with Bolton. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 2, 2024 9:59:34 GMT
Michael Smith was all set to sign for Port Vale but the paperwork didn't go through in time. It's not just us!
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Post by eric on Feb 2, 2024 10:00:36 GMT
The bulk of transfer business should be done in the summer when the market is a bit less mad. However, we now have a pretty dead last few months of the season (unless things really go belly up and we get dragged into a relegation fight) and while it may give us some entertainment if any of the loans turn out to be a new Eliot Anderson none will be coming back on permanent moves. We now have a situation where half our team for the rest of the season are likely to be loans who then return to their parent clubs. We have players running out of contract in the summer and others MT won’t fancy and will try to move on. This means a massive summer rebuild. Personally, I’d have liked 3 permanent signings at least during this window, players who MT would view as likely starters for a promotion push next season. This will have enabled them to gel with the current nailed on starters and have a settled base for next year. As it stands we could have a virtually new team all starting their rovers careers at the same time in the summer - will they be able to hit the ground running? It’s a big ask and my fear is that by Christmas we’ll be saying the team still need time to gel and promotion is written off for another season. There will be players available in the summer that are not available now, which means we may get better players in then than now. I agree which is why I said the bulk of transfer business should be done in the summer. However, we could have just a handful of players that MT wants when this season ends - this could mean 10 plus us new players coming in and starting from scratch and my fear is that will be too many to gel quickly and get the next season off to a flier. Like I said, my fear is that next season will see another slow start and end up being written off as still under development and rebuild. |
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