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Post by pirate on Feb 2, 2024 14:35:30 GMT
Anything you enjoy about following the gas? This isnt a "go and support the city" post, but if i was a permanently annoyed as many appear to be on here i think id have a break. UTG, the sun is shining and reckon we are gonna win the next 3  Not that is is any of your business, but I will be having a break. Given my Exeter tickets to a friend and as the club have thrown away this season, I'll be saving my money for next season too, just like the club. Non-League groundhopping and ifollow for the rest of the season for me. 👍🏻 |
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Post by pirate on Feb 2, 2024 14:35:52 GMT
think you said 27 years or something. Unfortunately those players has since left us, and knowing that the past does not inform the future im hopelessly optimistic The past should also be something to learn from, yet we keep making the same mistakes Definition of madness. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 2, 2024 14:39:08 GMT
The past should also be something to learn from, yet we keep making the same mistakes Definition of madness. Absolutely, they failed Barton in the last window.. which ultimately lead to his sacking. They said his sacking was down to league position, yet have not backed the new manager suitably in this window to improve that. MT is now left with less striking options than Barton had, and we didnt have enough then. crazy. Good job L1 is sh** in quality this season but what an opportunity we had |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2024 14:47:37 GMT
In one breath the Rovers owners say they believe the club can get in the premiership, and then within a couple of months sell a striker and bring in a group of in experienced loans with no marquee replacement for Azza; effectively, the season is now over even though Rovers are not safe from another relegation. I really hope Taylor knows what he is doing, although if Martin gets injured I doubt the team will be pushing for promotion, which is what we were promised at the beginning of the season. With £750k burning a hole in their pockets I do not understand why the club did not go back for JCH, maybe in the summer when the club is going to rebuild, what ever that really means. Ground hog day. I imagine the burning hole in their pocket was partially sewn up with the Collins money?! We’ve just done the biggest budget in our history on a crap “bloated and deep squad” (manager says this, not the word crap!) and we could have easily moved about 4/5 on last night! We tried for Knibbs, Ennis and others, we are a mid table side, hardly appealing for anyone player with ambition this window. I am disappointed with the window, I’ve even called him Cellino but I’m struggling to hammer the board on this. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Feb 2, 2024 14:49:34 GMT
Absolutely, they failed Barton in the last window.. which ultimately lead to his sacking. They said his sacking was down to league position, yet have not backed the new manager suitably in this window to improve that. MT is now left with less striking options than Barton had, and we didnt have enough then. crazy. Good job L1 is sh** in quality this season but what an opportunity we had Barton was backed and when we missed out on JCH, we signed Martin on a decent wage. Taylor said himself we will probably wait until the summer and a lot of fans agree with that decision. We only play with 1 striker anyway, we have two strikers and signed two more attacking midfielders. Some fans don't look at the bigger picture and only think about the short term. If we can get better value during the summer, why get worse value now, so we can finish a few places higher when we're not going up or down?? |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 2, 2024 15:06:50 GMT
Absolutely, they failed Barton in the last window.. which ultimately lead to his sacking. They said his sacking was down to league position, yet have not backed the new manager suitably in this window to improve that. MT is now left with less striking options than Barton had, and we didnt have enough then. crazy. Good job L1 is sh** in quality this season but what an opportunity we had Barton was backed and when we missed out on JCH, we signed Martin on a decent wage. Taylor said himself we will probably wait until the summer and a lot of fans agree with that decision. We only play with 1 striker anyway, we have two strikers and signed two more attacking midfielders. Some fans don't look at the bigger picture and only think about the short term. If we can get better value during the summer, why get worse value now, so we can finish a few places higher when we're not going up or down?? Given we never seem to start the season well, do we really get better value in the summer or are we just left feeding off scraps because we aren't attractive enough, or we just simply dont have any system to identify good players that are not already on everyone else's radar? (eg Al-Hamadi when he was at Wycombe) Pay a little more now with less competition in order to get quality players. This window didnt even require masses of expenditure anyway...Charlie Kirk has gone back to Crewe. Hell id have even considered McKirdy. I think the bigger picture is to get some decent scouting/recruitment system in place and get decent players with potential in before we have to pay sizeable fees. |
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Post by bridgwatergas on Feb 2, 2024 15:10:25 GMT
Absolutely, they failed Barton in the last window.. which ultimately lead to his sacking. They said his sacking was down to league position, yet have not backed the new manager suitably in this window to improve that. MT is now left with less striking options than Barton had, and we didnt have enough then. crazy. Good job L1 is sh** in quality this season but what an opportunity we had Barton was backed and when we missed out on JCH, we signed Martin on a decent wage. Taylor said himself we will probably wait until the summer and a lot of fans agree with that decision. We only play with 1 striker anyway, we have two strikers and signed two more attacking midfielders. Some fans don't look at the bigger picture and only think about the short term. If we can get better value during the summer, why get worse value now, so we can finish a few places higher when we're not going up or down?? Totally agree with this some of the comments about the window are well over the top. Yes we could have signed a striker its not as if we didn't try but you have to get the right player in,the one that fits into your plans not just some to keep a few moaners happy. If you listen to the majority of managers they hate the January window and end up paying over inflated prices. In L1 and L2 loans are used by near enough every team and we would be stupid not to maximise it whilst we have to totally rebuild scouting networks/recruitment team. |
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Post by pirate on Feb 2, 2024 15:18:53 GMT
Barton was backed and when we missed out on JCH, we signed Martin on a decent wage. Taylor said himself we will probably wait until the summer and a lot of fans agree with that decision. We only play with 1 striker anyway, we have two strikers and signed two more attacking midfielders. Some fans don't look at the bigger picture and only think about the short term. If we can get better value during the summer, why get worse value now, so we can finish a few places higher when we're not going up or down?? Given we never seem to start the season well, do we really get better value in the summer or are we just left feeding off scraps because we aren't attractive enough, or we just simply dont have any system to identify good players that are not already on everyone else's radar? (eg Al-Hamadi when he was at Wycombe) Pay a little more now with less competition in order to get quality players. This window didnt even require masses of expenditure anyway...Charlie Kirk has gone back to Crewe. Hell id have even considered McKirdy. I think the bigger picture is to get some decent scouting/recruitment system in place and get decent players with potential in before we have to pay sizeable fees. Like Conteh, who was available for about a quarter of the fee we payed just 6 months earlier. |
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Post by gulfofaden on Feb 2, 2024 15:21:54 GMT
Over the top isn’t the word.
Debts paid
Signing players for several hundred K regularly.
New stand build - this time a ground improvement we didn’t have to pay for ourselves.
Fans have short memories. Have we forgotten the amateur management for decades?
I have no idea why given the commitment they’ve shown why some fans dislike our current owners. You should count yourselves downright lucky. We could easily have gone west given the debt situation.
Perhaps as they’re Middle Eastern and the new ones we don’t know much about is worrying people. It’s unfamiliar…I can’t really fathom it. Yes we can improve but give them a chance. You can’t add a scouting network overnight and neither can you just waste money for money’s sake.
This ownership team are the best we have had in my lifetime. I hear the new guys micromanage and this can be interpreted in many ways. It is surely a sign they care.
They haven’t said much but I think the 200ft monster stand built with no delay, immediately enhancing our experience and prospects at great initial cost should do the talking.
If I was reading this thread I’d think a lot of us were entitled and ungrateful.
We aren’t Manchester United but for who we are we are the club has moved on light years since Wael took over and the new guys are accelerating it
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 2, 2024 15:26:40 GMT
Given we never seem to start the season well, do we really get better value in the summer or are we just left feeding off scraps because we aren't attractive enough, or we just simply dont have any system to identify good players that are not already on everyone else's radar? (eg Al-Hamadi when he was at Wycombe) Pay a little more now with less competition in order to get quality players. This window didnt even require masses of expenditure anyway...Charlie Kirk has gone back to Crewe. Hell id have even considered McKirdy. I think the bigger picture is to get some decent scouting/recruitment system in place and get decent players with potential in before we have to pay sizeable fees. Like Conteh, who was available for about a quarter of the fee we payed just 6 months earlier. Exactly. At the moment we are going for players who have already have swarms of clubs after them. If we are paying that much for a kid with 20 or so games under his belt, then we really have to have something in place that identifies them before it gets to paying out that much |
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Post by jungleboogie on Feb 2, 2024 15:34:13 GMT
Anything you enjoy about following the gas? This isnt a "go and support the city" post, but if i was a permanently annoyed as many appear to be on here i think id have a break. UTG, the sun is shining and reckon we are gonna win the next 3 Not that is is any of your business, but I will be having a break. Given my Exeter tickets to a friend and as the club have thrown away this season, I'll be saving my money for next season too, just like the club. Non-League groundhopping and ifollow for the rest of the season for me. 👍🏻 Don't forget to flounce out the door and make a big scene whilst shouting 'I'm leaving'.....and check to see if anyone notices (or cares)  Absolutely hilarious some of the comments on this and other threads, with grown men 'crying' over the fact that like most teams, and most seasons, the matches in the back half of the season just end up as 'dead rubbers'. |
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Post by dudelebowski on Feb 2, 2024 15:38:12 GMT
Over the top isn’t the word. Debts paid Signing players for several hundred K regularly. New stand build - this time a ground improvement we didn’t have to pay for ourselves. Fans have short memories. Have we forgotten the amateur management for decades? I have no idea why given the commitment they’ve shown why some fans dislike our current owners. You should count yourselves downright lucky. We could easily have gone west given the debt situation. Perhaps as they’re Middle Eastern and the new ones we don’t know much about is worrying people. It’s unfamiliar…I can’t really fathom it. Yes we can improve but give them a chance. You can’t add a scouting network overnight and neither can you just waste money for money’s sake. This ownership team are the best we have had in my lifetime. I hear the new guys micromanage and this can be interpreted in many ways. It is surely a sign they care. They haven’t said much but I think the 200ft monster stand built with no delay, immediately enhancing our experience and prospects at great initial cost should do the talking. If I was reading this thread I’d think a lot of us were entitled and ungrateful. We aren’t Manchester United but for who we are we are the club has moved on light years since Wael took over and the new guys are accelerating it Take a bow sir. You’ve nailed it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2024 15:48:09 GMT
Barton was backed and when we missed out on JCH, we signed Martin on a decent wage. Taylor said himself we will probably wait until the summer and a lot of fans agree with that decision. We only play with 1 striker anyway, we have two strikers and signed two more attacking midfielders. Some fans don't look at the bigger picture and only think about the short term. If we can get better value during the summer, why get worse value now, so we can finish a few places higher when we're not going up or down?? Totally agree with this some of the comments about the window are well over the top. Yes we could have signed a striker its not as if we didn't try but you have to get the right player in,the one that fits into your plans not just some to keep a few moaners happy. If you listen to the majority of managers they hate the January window and end up paying over inflated prices. In L1 and L2 loans are used by near enough every team and we would be stupid not to maximise it whilst we have to totally rebuild scouting networks/recruitment team. Looks like we agree on something at last and also good to see you managed to come out of your self imposed exile on the forum because I was back posting🙏 I told a load more lies last night didn’t I 💩💨 |
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Post by daniel300380 on Feb 2, 2024 15:48:12 GMT
Given we never seem to start the season well, do we really get better value in the summer or are we just left feeding off scraps because we aren't attractive enough, or we just simply dont have any system to identify good players that are not already on everyone else's radar? (eg Al-Hamadi when he was at Wycombe) Pay a little more now with less competition in order to get quality players. This window didnt even require masses of expenditure anyway...Charlie Kirk has gone back to Crewe. Hell id have even considered McKirdy. I think the bigger picture is to get some decent scouting/recruitment system in place and get decent players with potential in before we have to pay sizeable fees. Like Conteh, who was available for about a quarter of the fee we payed just 6 months earlier. I expect a lot of clubs are saying the same, including the clubs that just missed out on him. For every Conteh you mention, there are loads more that never get as high as league 1. We all know we need to improve our scouting network and recruitment team, but there are no guarantees in football. It's easy to say, player x was available to us. But nobody else took the gamble at that stage. Loads of players with potential out there, some make the step up and some don't. It's definitely not as easy as some are making out. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2024 15:56:07 GMT
My only criticism of the club would be………we got Conteh done earlier and Grimsby will have assumed we had no real money, at 6pm last night every club knew we had £750k in the bank.
But this said, after the hijacking of 3 years, we had no football department in place to recommend signings like Tommy with JCH and Ogogo etc and the blame for this lies with one man on the board.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Feb 2, 2024 17:18:25 GMT
I did laugh when I saw the majority owner with the hat and scarf. Looks like the stereotype rug salesman, in some Moroccan bizarre and not an FC man How bazaar, how bazaar. Thanks for the correct spelling |
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Post by aghast on Feb 2, 2024 17:26:24 GMT
Over the top isn’t the word. Debts paid Signing players for several hundred K regularly. New stand build - this time a ground improvement we didn’t have to pay for ourselves. Fans have short memories. Have we forgotten the amateur management for decades? I have no idea why given the commitment they’ve shown why some fans dislike our current owners. You should count yourselves downright lucky. We could easily have gone west given the debt situation. Perhaps as they’re Middle Eastern and the new ones we don’t know much about is worrying people. It’s unfamiliar…I can’t really fathom it. Yes we can improve but give them a chance. You can’t add a scouting network overnight and neither can you just waste money for money’s sake. This ownership team are the best we have had in my lifetime. I hear the new guys micromanage and this can be interpreted in many ways. It is surely a sign they care. They haven’t said much but I think the 200ft monster stand built with no delay, immediately enhancing our experience and prospects at great initial cost should do the talking. If I was reading this thread I’d think a lot of us were entitled and ungrateful. We aren’t Manchester United but for who we are we are the club has moved on light years since Wael took over and the new guys are accelerating it Take a bow sir. You’ve nailed it. Well not quite. Identifying the issue as them being of Middle Eastern origin is a mistake. Wael is from that region and everyone loves him. I think the issue people have with them is the almost complete and utter silence on most key issues. Not quite complete, but nearly there. As owners of a football club it's not like buying other businesses and locking yourself away in an ivory tower. It's a community thing and important for local people in a way that taking over a car company wouldn't be. As for the issues some others have with the rest of the family and their role in all this, I wouldn't know about that. I read it and note it but don't necessarily take it seriously. You never know who's upset who, and which noses have been put out of joint now Wael is no longer at the helm. |
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Post by madgas on Feb 2, 2024 18:19:55 GMT
Absolutely, they failed Barton in the last window.. which ultimately lead to his sacking. They said his sacking was down to league position, yet have not backed the new manager suitably in this window to improve that. MT is now left with less striking options than Barton had, and we didnt have enough then. crazy. Good job L1 is sh** in quality this season but what an opportunity we had Barton was backed and when we missed out on JCH, we signed Martin on a decent wage. Taylor said himself we will probably wait until the summer and a lot of fans agree with that decision. We only play with 1 striker anyway, we have two strikers and signed two more attacking midfielders. Some fans don't look at the bigger picture and only think about the short term. If we can get better value during the summer, why get worse value now, so we can finish a few places higher when we're not going up or down?? The bigger picture: - get Taylor a player that can play Collins/ Brown position in a manner he desires. He's clearly not seeing it function as would like/ expect. It doesn't have to be a marquee player but someone he trusts to put in a shift in an effective manner. We want to see the shoots of next season now. That's the bigger picture. |
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Post by blakeneygas on Feb 2, 2024 19:22:06 GMT
Maybe we could still see one more.. There seems to be a mystery player in the training video Rovers have posted from today.
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Post by nsblue on Feb 2, 2024 19:29:52 GMT
Read on one sports page, that more players than ever before have become free agents before the end of this transfer window.
Therefore I imagine some clubs will be looking to sign players in the coming days.
I think it was Sheffield Wednesday who let 4 experienced players go that way, saves on wage bill if they are unlikely to feature for the rest of the season and gives the player a chance elsewhere without an 11pm deadline to worry about.
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