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Post by The Equaliser on Jan 2, 2024 9:26:10 GMT
Read my post, how many were complaining about the football structure when we got promoted or thought AC might be sold for £m's? It was a means to an end and they are now, fortunately, gone and just need to be replaced. We're still a L1 club so it's not the end of the world some posters seem to be trying to make out it is. It’s a good point Topper. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2024 9:26:57 GMT
Yes anything to have a pop at Barton when it’s a reason we find ourselves struggling. I still go to games if we lose, enjoyed the day out at Wycombe yesterday. Happy New Year 👍 *Interesting to see, you last football related post was the Pompey game and you’ve done a couple of posts re tickets on those threads. You always keep coming looking for me, pulling me up, we can do this all year brother 😊 Fair play you’ve gone from “the manager cost us this today” to full on “damn , what was I thinking its that bastard Barton’s fault” 😂 Again no I haven’t (appreciate the banter😊), I think Taylor’s picks (he’s learning about the squad, he said this as well) contributed to us losing the game yesterday, I think it played a big part. But you also can’t blame him with what he’s been left with, two no9’s in the 30’s, one unfit for profile needed again against CB’s at Wycombe. Do I think Hoole would have been a better pick than Grant? Yes. Do I think Woods not starting and is playing Brown/Macca as a 10 could have helped Martin and the team, yes. But the manager wanted to go with a bloated midfield, he found out it can’t be done with a 9 who is unfit and aging. Clarke Harris for example would have played this role, he’s more mobile and taller (not saying sign him). I believe Taylor yesterday could have got us a point or smash and grab win but all managers need to learn their players, you can’t just do this in training. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2024 9:35:43 GMT
The game has dramatically changed, I will give it Barton when he said you can’t get promotion now aimed at the Cowley’s playing 4-4-2.
It’s all about 9’s, 10’s and 11’s offensively and playing from the back has changed this as well so much.
We had two number 6’s yesterday who got in the way of each other and Woods stopped Finley playing his game. As soon at Ward came on, it was forward passes and Evans was a more advanced 8.
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Post by The Equaliser on Jan 2, 2024 9:36:39 GMT
Fair play you’ve gone from “the manager cost us this today” to full on “damn , what was I thinking its that bastard Barton’s fault” 😂 Again no I haven’t (appreciate the banter😊), I think Taylor’s picks (he’s learning about the squad, he said this as well) contributed to us losing the game yesterday, I think it played a big part. But you also can’t blame him with what he’s been left with, two no9’s in the 30’s, one unfit for profile needed again against CB’s at Wycombe. Do I think Hoole would have been a better pick than Grant? Yes. Do I think Woods not starting and is playing Brown/Macca as a 10 could have helped Martin and the team, yes. But the manager wanted to go with a bloated midfield, he found out it can’t be done with a 9 who is unfit and aging. Clarke Harris for example would have played this role, he’s more mobile and taller (not saying sign him). I believe Taylor yesterday could have got us a point or smash and grab win but all managers need to learn their players, you can’t just do this in training. I get what you mean, I agree with some of it 👍🏾 However, a manager has to play with the squad he’s dealt, Matt has to use the players he’s inherited ,although I honestly still believe this is a good squad as recent results under Matt and Andy Mangan have shown. I think there’s been a bit of a knee jerk reaction to yesterday’s performance, I believe Matt’s starting lineup was badly chosen because he didn’t believe the squad had the fitness for a busy Christmas schedule. I would have started Marquis and seen how it went. But I’m no expert 👍🏾 |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 2, 2024 9:46:09 GMT
Regardless of who's players these are, the right team selection would have won that game yesterday
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Post by peterhooper57 on Jan 2, 2024 9:47:38 GMT
Overall, imo BRFC have have made a good return over the Christmas period, Mr T has now had time to learn all he needs to know about who is currently in good, bad and indifferent form. Watching from the stand yesterday I could not believe how the team had gone from dream to drain in less than a week. That said for me particularly Grant and Wood are just not up to it, midway through the first half Finley was choosing not to pass the ball to Wood, which to me seemed a sensible option. What to do with Collins is an enigma, love him to bits, just want the fella to stop diving and start playing (Mr T over to you). For me Hoole has not really made the step from div 2 to 1, and I definitely prefer Hunt when fit at right back. Not sure the club can do anything with the rest of the squad until summer. For me I would like to have another look at Connolly maybe getting the band back to together will work in defence. At this moment the club needs to decide whether we it wants to remain as tier 3 club, if that is the case bring in a loan journey man or two to ensure the club reaches 50+ points and secures a mid table spot, ort wants to make the playoffs, in that case get case of money they found from behind the sofa, give it to Posh and sign JCH. Utg
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2024 9:50:50 GMT
Again no I haven’t (appreciate the banter😊), I think Taylor’s picks (he’s learning about the squad, he said this as well) contributed to us losing the game yesterday, I think it played a big part. But you also can’t blame him with what he’s been left with, two no9’s in the 30’s, one unfit for profile needed again against CB’s at Wycombe. Do I think Hoole would have been a better pick than Grant? Yes. Do I think Woods not starting and is playing Brown/Macca as a 10 could have helped Martin and the team, yes. But the manager wanted to go with a bloated midfield, he found out it can’t be done with a 9 who is unfit and aging. Clarke Harris for example would have played this role, he’s more mobile and taller (not saying sign him). I believe Taylor yesterday could have got us a point or smash and grab win but all managers need to learn their players, you can’t just do this in training. I get what you mean, I agree with some of it 👍🏾 However, a manager has to play with the squad he’s dealt, Matt has to use the players he’s inherited ,although I honestly still believe this is a good squad as recent results under Matt and Andy Mangan have shown. I think there’s been a bit of a knee jerk reaction to yesterday’s performance, I believe Matt’s starting lineup was badly chosen because he didn’t believe the squad had the fitness for a busy Christmas schedule. I would have started Marquis and seen how it went. But I’m no expert 👍🏾 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 And you use the word “fitness”. I think he felt Marquis would get no change out of Tafazolli and Low yesterday, in hindsight I’m with you, we could have started him but we might also be in the same position now. I’m 💯 Macca/Brown in the hole would have helped, I don’t like hammering players but Woods was a disaster yesterday. Most clubs have 3 or 4 players up top, DC had Taylor, Ellis, Gaffeny, Easter, all played the no9. Marquis has carried that role over a busy December, 8 games including yesterday. No rest for him and Martin over this period playing no9, one unfit and who has personally admitted it. We have posters saying it’s the day for all sides, it’s not, most sides have 3 minimum, JCH would have been this or free scoring Alfie May. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2024 10:03:39 GMT
I get what you mean, I agree with some of it 👍🏾 However, a manager has to play with the squad he’s dealt, Matt has to use the players he’s inherited ,although I honestly still believe this is a good squad as recent results under Matt and Andy Mangan have shown. I think there’s been a bit of a knee jerk reaction to yesterday’s performance, I believe Matt’s starting lineup was badly chosen because he didn’t believe the squad had the fitness for a busy Christmas schedule. I would have started Marquis and seen how it went. But I’m no expert 👍🏾 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 And you use the word “fitness”. I think he felt Marquis would get no change out of Tafazolli and Low yesterday, in hindsight I’m with you, we could have started him but we might also be in the same position now. I’m 💯 Macca/Brown in the hole would have helped, I don’t like hammering players but Woods was a disaster yesterday. Most clubs have 3 or 4 players up top, DC had Taylor, Ellis, Gaffeny, Easter, all played the no9. Marquis has carried that role over a busy December, 8 games including yesterday. No rest for him and Martin over this period playing no9, one unfit and who has personally admitted it. We have posters saying it’s the same for all sides, it’s not, most sides have 3 minimum, JCH would have been this or free scoring Alfie May. Our lack of numbers in the offensive/striker department, as I said yesterday was a product of project Jennings and Barton. I was at Charlton that festive period game when we lost 4-1 away, DC dropped Taylor and Lines, Easter scored in the first 20 minutes. I said it was the wrong thing to do but he had the luxury to do this, Taylor doesn’t. Look at what DC had on the bench and imagine Taylor with this 🤷🏼♂️ www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38433225 |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 2, 2024 10:06:37 GMT
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 And you use the word “fitness”. I think he felt Marquis would get no change out of Tafazolli and Low yesterday, in hindsight I’m with you, we could have started him but we might also be in the same position now. I’m 💯 Macca/Brown in the hole would have helped, I don’t like hammering players but Woods was a disaster yesterday. Most clubs have 3 or 4 players up top, DC had Taylor, Ellis, Gaffeny, Easter, all played the no9. Marquis has carried that role over a busy December, 8 games including yesterday. No rest for him and Martin over this period playing no9, one unfit and who has personally admitted it. We have posters saying it’s the same for all sides, it’s not, most sides have 3 minimum, JCH would have been this or free scoring Alfie May. Our lack of numbers in the offensive/striker department, as I said yesterday was a product of project Jennings and Barton. I was at Charlton that festive period game when we lost 4-2 away, DC dropped Taylor and Lines, Easter scored in the first 20 minutes. I said it was the wrong thing to do but he had the luxury to do this, Taylor doesn’t. Is the current lack of striking options Jennings/Barton's fault, or whoever messed up the JCH deal after allowing Loft to leave? Im going with the latter |
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jan 2, 2024 10:10:32 GMT
Another game to confirm many fans assessment, I.E we are capable of giving anyone in the league a game and of beating them ,conversely we are just as likely to lose to any team in the league , our final standing will probably be 7 to 12, this represents good progress, a stress free season free of any relegation worries, no need for all the references to previous manager or his relationship with Wael, we all know JB signed some good players ,some have worked out better than others as is normal, most are capable of MOM performances and have been , also just as capable of absolute stinkers and have been. IMHO MT has a free run for rest of season , keeping us where we are now ,comfortably, while picking through the bones of the squad , discarding some and adding others as he sees fit. Think we can sit back relax and enjoy seeing how and who, while we
try to keep a level head as we win some, lose some, and draw some and you never know ,an exciting cup run could be on the cards! still plenty to keep us interested in the league, will Pompey blow it, will DC pull off the great escape?( my money is on him doing so) and so on, Happy new year to every one at Rovers, fans every where, most of all good health to one and all is what really matters, honest! despite what The great Mr Shankly said, it really is 'only a game'!
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Post by The Equaliser on Jan 2, 2024 10:14:15 GMT
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 And you use the word “fitness”. I think he felt Marquis would get no change out of Tafazolli and Low yesterday, in hindsight I’m with you, we could have started him but we might also be in the same position now. I’m 💯 Macca/Brown in the hole would have helped, I don’t like hammering players but Woods was a disaster yesterday. Most clubs have 3 or 4 players up top, DC had Taylor, Ellis, Gaffeny, Easter, all played the no9. Marquis has carried that role over a busy December, 8 games including yesterday. No rest for him and Martin over this period playing no9, one unfit and who has personally admitted it. We have posters saying it’s the same for all sides, it’s not, most sides have 3 minimum, JCH would have been this or free scoring Alfie May. Our lack of numbers in the offensive/striker department, as I said yesterday was a product of project Jennings and Barton. I was at Charlton that festive period game when we lost 4-1 away, DC dropped Taylor and Lines, Easter scored in the first 20 minutes. I said it was the wrong thing to do but he had the luxury to do this, Taylor doesn’t. Look at what DC had on the bench and imagine Taylor with this 🤷🏼♂️ www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38433225Yes lack of options, but while criticising Jennings/Barton you must also acknowledge their signing of Chris Martin, which I believe you applauded them for at the time, it has turned out to be a shrewd move we are now benefiting from. The JCH drama probably being our season defining moment, we would have had the depth required with a potent striker. |
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jan 2, 2024 10:15:26 GMT
Overall, imo BRFC have have made a good return over the Christmas period, Mr T has now had time to learn all he needs to know about who is currently in good, bad and indifferent form. Watching from the stand yesterday I could not believe how the team had gone from dream to drain in less than a week. That said for me particularly Grant and Wood are just not up to it, midway through the first half Finley was choosing not to pass the ball to Wood, which to me seemed a sensible option. What to do with Collins is an enigma, love him to bits, just want the fella to stop diving and start playing (Mr T over to you). For me Hoole has not really made the step from div 2 to 1, and I definitely prefer Hunt when fit at right back. Not sure the club can do anything with the rest of the squad until summer. For me I would like to have another look at Connolly maybe getting the band back to together will work in defence. At this moment the club needs to decide whether we it wants to remain as tier 3 club, if that is the case bring in a loan journey man or two to ensure the club reaches 50+ points and secures a mid table spot, ort wants to make the playoffs, in that case get case of money they found from behind the sofa, give it to Posh and sign JCH. Utg Good reasoned post, the JCH saga will always provoke debate, that aside ,nothing else anyone can have an issue with IMHO. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Jan 2, 2024 10:26:57 GMT
Overall, imo BRFC have have made a good return over the Christmas period, Mr T has now had time to learn all he needs to know about who is currently in good, bad and indifferent form. Watching from the stand yesterday I could not believe how the team had gone from dream to drain in less than a week. That said for me particularly Grant and Wood are just not up to it, midway through the first half Finley was choosing not to pass the ball to Wood, which to me seemed a sensible option. What to do with Collins is an enigma, love him to bits, just want the fella to stop diving and start playing (Mr T over to you). For me Hoole has not really made the step from div 2 to 1, and I definitely prefer Hunt when fit at right back. Not sure the club can do anything with the rest of the squad until summer. For me I would like to have another look at Connolly maybe getting the band back to together will work in defence. At this moment the club needs to decide whether we it wants to remain as tier 3 club, if that is the case bring in a loan journey man or two to ensure the club reaches 50+ points and secures a mid table spot, ort wants to make the playoffs, in that case get case of money they found from behind the sofa, give it to Posh and sign JCH. Utg As already stated good post. The last sentence is the crux of the matter. Currently our budget I.m.o is nowhere near top 6. The club needs to decide to take the historical route of a comfortable mid table kick around in the last part of the season or invest heavily to make a play off bid. A win yesterday would of made the Barnsley game a 6 pointer and a big fee striker could push the club into at least a realistic chance of play offs. The question is what will the club do ?. Will it invest heavily and compete within a top 6 budget or relax with a upper to mid table budget ?. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2024 10:35:17 GMT
Peter Hooper makes a good post re JCH but honestly, I don’t know what Jennings/Barton were thinking when signing a no9 again with no pace, they would give us 3 like this?
And weeks before we went for a small Alfie May who has a yard of pace, did they really have a plan?
You need a strike force with a mix of everything.
Have you seen how much pace Peterborough posses upfront and across their offensive unit, so much they went a new route without JCH and then have the luxury to bring him in a game ago and he scores again.
If they had got the offensive unit right, they’d be still employed today, May and JCH are polar extremes in profiles.
*Edit, we’d have 2 like this, I doubt they would have signed Martin. Let’s also not hand out praise for the Martin signing, he was unemployed living in Bristol, his agent would have got him a trial with us!
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Post by GasAttacK on Jan 2, 2024 10:38:55 GMT
I'm sure MT would have loved to play an unchanged side yesterday. However, a bad injury to Wilson and 4 games in 9 days meant he had to make 3 changes.
Unfortunately, Grant doesn't really excel in any position and Woods is a liability.
However, we can't pin all the blame on them because it was a really poor team performance. We improved after the sending off but still managed to concede twice.
The only positive is the manager got to see this soft side of the squad before the January transfer window.
Hopefully we can bring in 3 or 4 quality additions over the next few weeks because I think we need them if we're going to maintain our place in the top 10.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Jan 2, 2024 10:45:33 GMT
Peter Hooper makes a good post re JCH but honestly, I don’t know what Jennings/Barton were thinking when signing a no9 again with no pace, they would give us 3 like this? And weeks before we went for a small Alfie May who has a yard of pace, did they really have a plan? You need a strike force with a mix of everything. Have you seen how much pace Peterborough posses upfront and across their offensive unit, so much they went a new route without JCH and then have the luxury to bring him in a game ago and he scores again. If they had got the offensive unit right, they’d be still employed today, May and JCH are polar extremes in profiles. *Edit, we’d have 2 like this, I doubt they would have signed Martin. Let’s also not hand out praise for the Martin signing, he was unemployed living in Bristol, his agent would have got him a trial with us! Personally I question we have a top 8 budget. What one team out of Derby Bolton Charlton Blackpool Barnsley Pompey peterboro Oxford ( bookies odds on in September ) have we replaced ?. Sadly money talks . Maybe the reason we can't sign the top strikers is the other clubs ( mentioned abov ) can and we can't. And if we can and we have a top 6-8 budget . What are we waiting for ?. Like I said only a masochist will be given a big budget and buy rubbish. Its spliting hairs that a manager is only 9 10 11 12 14 th in the division with a mid table budget . |
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Post by The Equaliser on Jan 2, 2024 10:52:23 GMT
Peter Hooper makes a good post re JCH but honestly, I don’t know what Jennings/Barton were thinking when signing a no9 again with no pace, they would give us 3 like this? And weeks before we went for a small Alfie May who has a yard of pace, did they really have a plan? You need a strike force with a mix of everything. Have you seen how much pace Peterborough posses upfront and across their offensive unit, so much they went a new route without JCH and then have the luxury to bring him in a game ago and he scores again. If they had got the offensive unit right, they’d be still employed today, May and JCH are polar extremes in profiles. *Edit, we’d have 2 like this, I doubt they would have signed Martin. Let’s also not hand out praise for the Martin signing, he was unemployed living in Bristol, his agent would have got him a trial with us! Agree mainly with what you’re saying 👍🏾 But take issue with your closing statement, YOU handed out praise for the Martin signing, so stay true, and not tell others not to hand out praise, that’s unfair, he was a good signing by Jennings/Barton 👍🏾 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2024 10:58:54 GMT
Peter Hooper makes a good post re JCH but honestly, I don’t know what Jennings/Barton were thinking when signing a no9 again with no pace, they would give us 3 like this? And weeks before we went for a small Alfie May who has a yard of pace, did they really have a plan? You need a strike force with a mix of everything. Have you seen how much pace Peterborough posses upfront and across their offensive unit, so much they went a new route without JCH and then have the luxury to bring him in a game ago and he scores again. If they had got the offensive unit right, they’d be still employed today, May and JCH are polar extremes in profiles. *Edit, we’d have 2 like this, I doubt they would have signed Martin. Let’s also not hand out praise for the Martin signing, he was unemployed living in Bristol, his agent would have got him a trial with us! Agree mainly with what you’re saying 👍🏾 But take issue with your closing statement, YOU handed out praise for the Martin signing, so stay true, and not tell others not to hand out praise, that’s unfair, he was a good signing by Jennings/Barton 👍🏾 Fair point, I just wish we were never in the position where we had to sign Chris Martin and being honest, he should be playing an Easter role for us, not first choice. I’d have liked to have seen like Oxford did, Rodriguez and Harris brought in (latter scored yesterday). It is what it is, I still go with my point from yesterday, Taylor has been left with two aging no9’s, neither with legs and pace. The good thing from yesterday was it highlighted it, as long as it’s not a Timmy Abraham, hopefully we can at least bring in some pace on loan. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Jan 2, 2024 11:20:58 GMT
Agree mainly with what you’re saying 👍🏾 But take issue with your closing statement, YOU handed out praise for the Martin signing, so stay true, and not tell others not to hand out praise, that’s unfair, he was a good signing by Jennings/Barton 👍🏾 Fair point, I just wish we were never in the position where we had to sign Chris Martin and being honest, he should be playing an Easter role for us, not first choice. I’d have liked to have seen like Oxford did, Rodriguez and Harris brought in (latter scored yesterday). It is what it is, I still go with my point from yesterday, Taylor has been left with two aging no9’s, neither with legs and pace. The good thing from yesterday was it highlighted it, as long as it’s not a Timmy Abraham, hopefully we can at least bring in some pace on loan. So a so called top 8 budget who sacks managers because ' we are not top 8 ' can only bring in ' some pace on loan '. I rest my case ! |
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 2, 2024 11:41:03 GMT
Read my post, how many were complaining about the football structure when we got promoted or thought AC might be sold for £m's? It was a means to an end and they are now, fortunately, gone and just need to be replaced. We're still a L1 club so it's not the end of the world some posters seem to be trying to make out it is. IMO your head of football operations needs to be someone the board employs not the mate of a manager. He's someone that should be the link between board and manager, in charge of scouting and development from the U23s. Jennings was bought in by Barton and only because of his association with Barton not because of his ability and its why its left us now with MT having to do everything. |
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