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Post by lympstonegas on Jan 18, 2024 9:47:37 GMT
Anyone manage to get a live stream tonight ? No, ended up listening on Radio Bristol Same here Link given only showed Blackpool Forest game On the plus side - Blackpool playing extra time and then the disappointment of losing hopefully puts them in worse place than us in Saturday. Also I’m sure the Forest will put in a better show against the sh** than Blackpool would have and West Ham did |
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Post by gascloud on Jan 18, 2024 10:04:05 GMT
Stood in the West terrace bang in line when the pass for the first goal was played. Linesman was 5-10 yards away from where he should have been, for that and most of the 2nd half. At times he was running the line, inside the boundary of the pitch. Couldn’t keep up with the play. Definite off side, Penalty seemed soft, 3rd goal build up again what’s not hand ball about that, I don’t know. I thought McCormick looked great and came off too early. Martin ran out of steam after 70 mins, Marquis should have come on then ? Collins often chasing shadows, we were playing long balls up to him expecting him to get on the end of them. No chance. Norwich were the better side, 2nd half they were much quicker to every pass or loose ball. just can’t help but feel a bit of injustice about the decisions But that’s football I guess. Was in the centenary stand and I thought the guy out wide was clearly a yard or two offside. Was just waiting for the flag to go up. A decision that ultimately cost us I’d say. Enjoyed the game and atmosphere though. |
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Post by GasAttacK on Jan 18, 2024 10:32:26 GMT
I wasn't there so it's difficult to comment on the performance but from the commentary it sounded like we gave it a real go.
There is obviously a gulf in class. Norwich have yo-yo'd between the Championship and the Premier League in recent years and are currently just 2 points off the play offs.
However, that gulf in class was only really evident for 30-40 minutes of 2 matches that lasted 180+.
Unfortunately, we didn't take some very presentable chances over the 2 legs and got punished by a good Norwich side that grew in confidence after a quickfire double that turned the tie in their favour.
It's frustrating because nothing really went our way. Missed chances, some questionable calls from the ref, and a bit of luck. Thomas hits the post at Carrow Road and it's cleared away. Norwich hit the post last night and it falls to their player to tap it into an empty net.
It's disappointing because of what was waiting in the next round but we gave a good Championship side a run for their money and shouldn't feel too despondant.
Hopefully the players can pick themselves up for another game on Saturday because there are good signs since Taylor took charge. It's certainly not all doom and gloom despite how low we feel after last night.
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Post by copster on Jan 18, 2024 10:40:17 GMT
Stood in the West terrace bang in line when the pass for the first goal was played. Linesman was 5-10 yards away from where he should have been, for that and most of the 2nd half. At times he was running the line, inside the boundary of the pitch. Couldn’t keep up with the play. Definite off side, Penalty seemed soft, 3rd goal build up again what’s not hand ball about that, I don’t know. I thought McCormick looked great and came off too early. Martin ran out of steam after 70 mins, Marquis should have come on then ? Collins often chasing shadows, we were playing long balls up to him expecting him to get on the end of them. No chance. Norwich were the better side, 2nd half they were much quicker to every pass or loose ball. just can’t help but feel a bit of injustice about the decisions But that’s football I guess. Must have been stood next to me! That was my issue Lino was not in line at any time in 2nd half!!! |
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Post by socrates on Jan 18, 2024 11:25:56 GMT
He was Miles off side. Not a lot in it tonight. We had enough chanced to bury them. Story of our season, missed some glorious opps, and they take theirs. They were OK, lightning going forward, but very very very dodgy at the back. If LFC put a half decent side out they'll get absolutely murdered. Personally I want them to. Had some real Offensive in that team. £30m for Rowe... Clown spent most of the time moaning and falling over. Ashley Barnes was awful - he came on as sub and already looked like he had played 120 for thr reserves this afternoon. Absolute carthorse Have you seen the highlights ? I’ve just watched them and he’s miles onside for the first. The second was never a penalty the forward has bought that totally and the officials fell for it. Can’t see any handball for the third at what point was there a handball ? |
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Post by socrates on Jan 18, 2024 11:28:24 GMT
Having seen the highlights I'm still of the opinion that it wasn't a penalty. Their player ran into Thomas and looked like he was offside anyway. Thomas had both feet on the floor and didn't make any motion towards him. What the highlights don't show is the blatant handball in the lead up to their third which wasn't ball to hand. Hard to tell if the first was offside or not but it looked like a well timed run to me. How unlucky to strike the post and fall to their player though. Their equaliser same as Barnsley last weekend, off the post and drops kindly to one of theirs for the tap in. Now I’ve seen the penalty award I’m even more gutted, that’s what they had to resort too. So clearly a dive and lunge forward after the ball had run through to Cox, the ref has bought it all ends up. Our players need to react quicker , same as Saturday their forwards had the poacher instinct to follow in whilst our defenders stood and watched to see what was happening. |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jan 18, 2024 11:33:48 GMT
He was Miles off side. Not a lot in it tonight. We had enough chanced to bury them. Story of our season, missed some glorious opps, and they take theirs. They were OK, lightning going forward, but very very very dodgy at the back. If LFC put a half decent side out they'll get absolutely murdered. Personally I want them to. Had some real Offensive in that team. £30m for Rowe... Clown spent most of the time moaning and falling over. Ashley Barnes was awful - he came on as sub and already looked like he had played 120 for thr reserves this afternoon. Absolute carthorse Have you seen the highlights ? I’ve just watched them and he’s miles onside for the first. The second was never a penalty the forward has bought that totally and the officials fell for it. Can’t see any handball for the third at what point was there a handball ? When we were attacking it was just outside their penalty area, they then clear and go straight up the other end and score. |
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Post by socrates on Jan 18, 2024 11:40:24 GMT
Have you seen the highlights ? I’ve just watched them and he’s miles onside for the first. The second was never a penalty the forward has bought that totally and the officials fell for it. Can’t see any handball for the third at what point was there a handball ? When we were attacking it was just outside their penalty area, they then clear and go straight up the other end and score. Ah fair enough the highlights on the Nowrich website don’t show that. So only one of their goals should have stood. Their first was miles onside for sure, a couple of yards. Having said that we created loads of chances and only scored once again and we conceded a fair few chances and conceded 3 |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jan 18, 2024 11:48:55 GMT
Something that frustrated me about the ref is that according to his Wikipedia page he's the only ref in the EFL to have played the game professionally. Yet he let all the time wasting go and numerous other incidents that you'd think an ex-player would pick up on.
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Post by CornishPasty_Gas on Jan 18, 2024 11:56:18 GMT
He was Miles off side. Not a lot in it tonight. We had enough chanced to bury them. Story of our season, missed some glorious opps, and they take theirs. They were OK, lightning going forward, but very very very dodgy at the back. If LFC put a half decent side out they'll get absolutely murdered. Personally I want them to. Had some real Offensive in that team. £30m for Rowe... Clown spent most of the time moaning and falling over. Ashley Barnes was awful - he came on as sub and already looked like he had played 120 for thr reserves this afternoon. Absolute carthorse Have you seen the highlights ? I’ve just watched them and he’s miles onside for the first. The second was never a penalty the forward has bought that totally and the officials fell for it. Can’t see any handball for the third at what point was there a handball ? I think it may have been Evans crossed it, and their player jumped with his arms up, and hit his arm... they then broke. Arms in an un-natural position. All 3 goals shouldn't have stood. |
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Post by socrates on Jan 18, 2024 12:11:17 GMT
Have you seen the highlights ? I’ve just watched them and he’s miles onside for the first. The second was never a penalty the forward has bought that totally and the officials fell for it. Can’t see any handball for the third at what point was there a handball ? I think it may have been Evans crossed it, and their player jumped with his arms up, and hit his arm... they then broke. Arms in an un-natural position. All 3 goals shouldn't have stood. The first was miles onside mate honestly. Watch the scorer as the ball leaves the foot of the player who hits the post. |
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Post by wider on Jan 18, 2024 12:22:24 GMT
Having struggled over from Hay on Wye I was disappointed by last night on several counts but encouraged by others.
Disappointments first. We lost. After a bright start we reached halftime in the lead but our West Stand group discussion was that we always concede and we may regret missed chances again. One astute member mentioned the Lino our side wasn’t keeping up with play and was missing a lot - surely we should have had more free kicks for shirt pulling?
Was their first goal offside? Couldn’t really tell but it didn’t look like said Lino had a clue either.
Penalty? Not in my book, seemed like a con job with their player running into Luke Thomas and diving. The ball had run away to Matt Cox anyway.
Worst decision imo was the handball as they broke to get the third goal that finished all resistance. Yes it was flicked up at him (a clever attempt to guide it round him I felt) but he reacted and brought it down with his hand. The ref clearly saw it and I guess he reckoned ball to hand but that was the second vital decision against us.
Even so my biggest disappointment was the lack of noise from our fans for large parts of the second half. We made more noise at Norwich, we were never silent there.
What was encouraging was that the performance was far from awful. Most of our players looked like they gave their all and didn’t look out of place. We might just have the nucleus of a decent team. We need to believe in ourselves a bit more. It’s chicken and egg as to putting chances away and confidence building but I’m hopeful that although things haven’t quite clicked this season they may yet.
Luke Thomas is an exemplar of our current situation. Is he a good player turning in great performances week in week out or is he flattering to deceive with decent approach work and no end product? Both Norwich games displayed this dilemma.
Personally I feel my place is to support the club and therefore its players - not knock them. UTG
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Post by gulfofaden on Jan 18, 2024 12:33:31 GMT
Goals change dynamics. 2 goals is obviously a different mountain than 1 and the mood of the place and both camps would have been different. It was a fantastic opportunity to take a step closer to the finish line but of course your point is valid. Normally I'd agree but no evidence of that last night. They couldn't be arsed in the first, got a rollicking at HT and were a totally different side in the second. For all we know, a second may have made them come out the second half even angrier and stick 5 past us! Normally I'd be inclined to agree, but no evidence of that whatsoever last night. Norwich had to come out all guns blazing 2nd half as they were a goal down. 3-1 does not prove that a single goal being illegal means it wouldn’t have mattered. Generally 3-1 comes from teams trailing 2-1 getting all their men forward. Ultimately you could say the 2-1 and 3-1 are a similar result, in fact 3-1 is preferable as you went for it to get the equaliser and that attitude over a season gets more points than trying to hold 2-1 and nick it on the break. I think if key decisions went our way that could well have been a different result. It didn’t, hey ho, dust ourselves down and concentrate on the now irrelevant league campaign. |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Jan 18, 2024 13:38:28 GMT
Unfortunately, as Taylor said post match, Rovers were good for one and half matches, then imo we were mugged off by the officials, the move leading up to their first goal was offside, the penalty decision was diabolical. That said, Martin had a easy chance at 2-1 down. Now time to put that episode to bed, and Taylor needs to decide wtf we are going to be watching until the end of the season. I personally would like to see the owner invest and have a real go. Not interested in the future, that will take care of itself, The next 3 months is the here and now. In fairness to Taylor saying he has made offers to players, now needs to get those deals over the line, and beat Blackpool Saturday.
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Post by amgas on Jan 18, 2024 13:59:41 GMT
I did not think the scorer was offside - I thought the player was miles offside when the ball was played forward in the build up to the goal.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 18, 2024 15:45:15 GMT
Goals change dynamics. 2 goals is obviously a different mountain than 1 and the mood of the place and both camps would have been different. It was a fantastic opportunity to take a step closer to the finish line but of course your point is valid. Normally I'd agree but no evidence of that last night. They couldn't be arsed in the first, got a rollicking at HT and were a totally different side in the second. For all we know, a second may have made them come out the second half even angrier and stick 5 past us! Normally I'd be inclined to agree, but no evidence of that whatsoever last night. Until they scored a breakaway goal we were well on top again and it was looking like Norwich still were interested after the break. Then we got caught out sending too many players forward for a corner when it was still 1-1. Even after that we still had chances to make it 2-2. I can see Norwich getting hammered at Anfield as I doubt they'll miss chances like Thomas & Martin failed to convert last night. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 18, 2024 15:56:14 GMT
Have you seen the highlights ? I’ve just watched them and he’s miles onside for the first. The second was never a penalty the forward has bought that totally and the officials fell for it. Can’t see any handball for the third at what point was there a handball ? I think it may have been Evans crossed it, and their player jumped with his arms up, and hit his arm... they then broke. Arms in an un-natural position. All 3 goals shouldn't have stood. The handball occurred near the halfway line. You do have to wonder if MT should have brought Hunt on at halftime and gone 4-4-2 rather than sticking with just 3 defenders. Such a move would have also ruined Norwich's half time talk. Not really sure why MT brought on Sinclair as surely he must know by now he's hopeless? However bad Collins and Brown are at least they are better than Sinclair. |
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Post by SleepyGas on Jan 18, 2024 16:11:33 GMT
I'm glad I couldn't see this properly from the North Terrace!! What a dive  |
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Post by dudelebowski on Jan 18, 2024 16:21:21 GMT
The handball occurred near the halfway line. You do have to wonder if MT should have brought Hunt on at halftime and gone 4-4-2 rather than sticking with just 3 defenders. Such a move would have also ruined Norwich's half time talk. Not really sure why MT brought on Sinclair as surely he must know by now he's hopeless? However bad Collins and Brown are at least they are better than Sinclair. Halfway line = edge of the box |
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Post by bidefordgas on Jan 18, 2024 16:26:30 GMT
The handball occurred near the halfway line. You do have to wonder if MT should have brought Hunt on at halftime and gone 4-4-2 rather than sticking with just 3 defenders. Such a move would have also ruined Norwich's half time talk. Not really sure why MT brought on Sinclair as surely he must know by now he's hopeless? However bad Collins and Brown are at least they are better than Sinclair. The handball was on the edge of there eighteen yard box. We were attacking the ball was knocked forward and their player put out his right hand to control the ball and then played a pass away and they went down our end at speed and scored. The ball was not smashed at him and his right hand went out and patted the ball down . No way was it ball to hand. |
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