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Post by popuppirate on Feb 3, 2024 21:29:37 GMT
so pleased for him G'wan Jed lad So pleased for him, should have been in earlier in the season as well but he couldn’t because of the deals Jennings was signing us up to which has surprised Taylor and won’t be happening anymore. Brentford at times have picked our match day squad for us, Balcombe split the camp at one point being picked over Belshaw but contractually we had to play him. That's a ridiculous scenario. Taylor seems the real deal, and without getting into it, it's been refreshing since day one. |
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Post by gasify on Feb 3, 2024 21:32:31 GMT
But still way better than Matt Cox's distribution, which was always weak. Yeah no argument, it’s an improvement on Cox but still a personal Jed weakness. No harm in saying that, the two points aren’t mutually exclusive. In the warm up today, he was accurately spraying it left and right. So he can do it, just maybe a confidence/experience thing. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 3, 2024 21:43:20 GMT
So pleased for him, should have been in earlier in the season as well but he couldn’t because of the deals Jennings was signing us up to which has surprised Taylor and won’t be happening anymore. Brentford at times have picked our match day squad for us, Balcombe split the camp at one point being picked over Belshaw but contractually we had to play him. That's a ridiculous scenario. Taylor seems the real deal, and without getting into it, it's been refreshing since day one. But we've no idea if Forest loaned us BA on similar terms? Perhaps the days have gone of having the likes of Connor Roberts sat on our bench for half a season given all 6 loan players played today, was that though MT's choice or their parent clubs? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2024 21:48:09 GMT
That's a ridiculous scenario. Taylor seems the real deal, and without getting into it, it's been refreshing since day one. But we've no idea if Forest loaned us BA on similar terms? Perhaps the days have gone of having the likes of Connor Roberts sat on our bench for half a season given all 6 loan players played today, was that though MT's choice or their parent clubs? Taylor will not have his side picked for him. |
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Post by islandgas on Feb 3, 2024 21:54:47 GMT
Excellent performance by Jed today. Really earned his wage and more. I'm looking forward to watching his development and am sure he has a very bright future ahead of him.
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Post by Quarters on Feb 3, 2024 22:32:53 GMT
That's a ridiculous scenario. Taylor seems the real deal, and without getting into it, it's been refreshing since day one. But we've no idea if Forest loaned us BA on similar terms? Perhaps the days have gone of having the likes of Connor Roberts sat on our bench for half a season given all 6 loan players played today, was that though MT's choice or their parent clubs? Then we are in trouble, only 5 loans allowed in a match day squad. |
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Post by returnofthedust on Feb 3, 2024 22:36:43 GMT
But we've no idea if Forest loaned us BA on similar terms? Perhaps the days have gone of having the likes of Connor Roberts sat on our bench for half a season given all 6 loan players played today, was that though MT's choice or their parent clubs? Then we are in trouble, only 5 loans allowed in a match day squad. Another topper special. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 3, 2024 22:44:39 GMT
That's a ridiculous scenario. Taylor seems the real deal, and without getting into it, it's been refreshing since day one. I really dont know why these parent clubs demand their young players players play x number of games. It totally goes against the ethos of having to work hard for your place in the team, which every player should have to do at any level. He plays sh**e and he is back in next game, has another stinker and is back in again, and so on. Hardly good for the player or his teammates. |
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Post by Somersetgas on Feb 3, 2024 22:45:54 GMT
But we've no idea if Forest loaned us BA on similar terms? Perhaps the days have gone of having the likes of Connor Roberts sat on our bench for half a season given all 6 loan players played today, was that though MT's choice or their parent clubs? I really dont know why these parent clubs demand their young players players play x number of games. It totally goes against the ethos of having to work hard for your place in the team, which every player should have to do at any level. He plays sh**e and he is back in next game, has another stinker and is back in again, and so on. Hardly good for the player or his teammates Money talks. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 3, 2024 22:47:32 GMT
I really dont know why these parent clubs demand their young players players play x number of games. It totally goes against the ethos of having to work hard for your place in the team, which every player should have to do at any level. He plays sh**e and he is back in next game, has another stinker and is back in again, and so on. Hardly good for the player or his teammates Money talks. Of course. But at the possible detriment of the player if out of his depth. If they are good enough they will get games |
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Post by bluetooth0077 on Feb 3, 2024 22:51:57 GMT
I personally find it a sad state of affairs that the club has played so many loan players ina league fixture. A very sad inditement of how the whole structure of the club is and has been unsustainable for x amount of year's. Championship football is a dream but all us logical mindsets no it's a unrealistic reality. But that's brfc and having moved back to Bristol 29 years ago the club has barely moved forward.
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Post by returnofthedust on Feb 3, 2024 22:53:35 GMT
But we've no idea if Forest loaned us BA on similar terms? Perhaps the days have gone of having the likes of Connor Roberts sat on our bench for half a season given all 6 loan players played today, was that though MT's choice or their parent clubs? I really dont know why these parent clubs demand their young players players play x number of games. It totally goes against the ethos of having to work hard for your place in the team, which every player should have to do at any level. He plays sh**e and he is back in next game, has another stinker and is back in again, and so on. Hardly good for the player or his teammates. There’s no evidence that this has happened with any of our loan players other than Balcombe. I suspect Brentford stick that clause in on that occasion because he was being recalled from Crawley where he was playing every week. |
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Post by neilv93 on Feb 3, 2024 23:04:57 GMT
Yeah no argument, it’s an improvement on Cox but still a personal Jed weakness. No harm in saying that, the two points aren’t mutually exclusive. In the warm up today, he was accurately spraying it left and right. So he can do it, just maybe a confidence/experience thing. Think he slipped on the surface a few times tbf, might not literally be a him thing but a pitch thing today. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 3, 2024 23:09:43 GMT
I really dont know why these parent clubs demand their young players players play x number of games. It totally goes against the ethos of having to work hard for your place in the team, which every player should have to do at any level. He plays sh**e and he is back in next game, has another stinker and is back in again, and so on. Hardly good for the player or his teammates. There’s no evidence that this has happened with any of our loan players other than Balcombe. I suspect Brentford stick that clause in on that occasion because he was being recalled from Crawley where he was playing every week. I was just speaking in general about loan clauses, but I was surprised Barton agreed to that with Balcombe. I thought he was his own man and wouldn't have wanted a player being picked for him |
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Post by gasify on Feb 3, 2024 23:30:45 GMT
But we've no idea if Forest loaned us BA on similar terms? Perhaps the days have gone of having the likes of Connor Roberts sat on our bench for half a season given all 6 loan players played today, was that though MT's choice or their parent clubs? I really dont know why these parent clubs demand their young players players play x number of games. It totally goes against the ethos of having to work hard for your place in the team, which every player should have to do at any level. He plays sh**e and he is back in next game, has another stinker and is back in again, and so on. Hardly good for the player or his teammates. So, we know the Balcombe deal was that he had to play the first 5 games. However, we don't know if that is a clause that is generally used. I was speaking to a friend today who had been studying Sky Sports on deadline day. He said that they ran a feature piece on the way that loans worked. Basically, the owning club would discount the contribution required from the club taking the loanee based on the number of appearances. This kinda feeds into the Cox side of things. My hunch (not ITK) is that maybe we have hit the ceiling of that discount now. I wouldn't be surprised if each of the new loanees were in this situation. They all got game time today, didn't they? |
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Post by percy on Feb 4, 2024 1:02:35 GMT
Just checking back it to say JED WARD you beauty. Long term contact and play him every game to the end of the season.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Feb 4, 2024 4:55:15 GMT
I really dont know why these parent clubs demand their young players players play x number of games. It totally goes against the ethos of having to work hard for your place in the team, which every player should have to do at any level. He plays sh**e and he is back in next game, has another stinker and is back in again, and so on. Hardly good for the player or his teammates. So, we know the Balcombe deal was that he had to play the first 5 games. However, we don't know if that is a clause that is generally used. I was speaking to a friend today who had been studying Sky Sports on deadline day. He said that they ran a feature piece on the way that loans worked. Basically, the owning club would discount the contribution required from the club taking the loanee based on the number of appearances. This kinda feeds into the Cox side of things. My hunch (not ITK) is that maybe we have hit the ceiling of that discount now. I wouldn't be surprised if each of the new loanees were in this situation. They all got game time today, didn't they? I do wonder if MT wanted to give Ward a chance earlier on but was also mindful that Brentford would then have had time to recall Cox and find another club for him to go to. By dropping him near the end of the window there probably wasn't enough time for Brentford to find another club. By doing this, if Ward was to struggle then Cox would still be here to come back into the side. |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Feb 4, 2024 4:58:58 GMT
After just two games its already looking like he is more than good enough to play at this level and if he keeps this up, surely deserves a new contract and a crack at being number one next season.
I said before, that the majority of keepers that end up being loaned out to clubs are our level don't make it anyway so rather than trying to help their players, lets give our own talent a chance. Especially when he is good enough.
If I was to give any constructive critisism on his performance yesterday, he tried to get a hand to a couple of corners and didn't get much on them. His height makes it harder to do this but I can see other teams now putting more pressure on him during crosses, and putting more players around him for corners. Hopefully our coaches will pick this up and focus on it in training.
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Post by dudelebowski on Feb 4, 2024 8:11:27 GMT
Ward wasn’t messing when he said he was ready to take his opportunity! No chance he’s losing that starting shirt now. Over the moon for the lad and the way he’s grasped the chance.
Cox will have his day likely elsewhere now, Taylor certainly has his man between the sticks!
Onto another clean sheet vs the Cod Army Tuesday night!
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 4, 2024 9:10:37 GMT
So, we know the Balcombe deal was that he had to play the first 5 games. However, we don't know if that is a clause that is generally used. I was speaking to a friend today who had been studying Sky Sports on deadline day. He said that they ran a feature piece on the way that loans worked. Basically, the owning club would discount the contribution required from the club taking the loanee based on the number of appearances. This kinda feeds into the Cox side of things. My hunch (not ITK) is that maybe we have hit the ceiling of that discount now. I wouldn't be surprised if each of the new loanees were in this situation. They all got game time today, didn't they? I do wonder if MT wanted to give Ward a chance earlier on but was also mindful that Brentford would then have had time to recall Cox and find another club for him to go to. By dropping him near the end of the window there probably wasn't enough time for Brentford to find another club. By doing this, if Ward was to struggle then Cox would still be here to come back into the side. I thought MT said in one recent interview Cox had now played sufficient games for him not to be recalled? As far as Balcombe, you do wonder if JB just made it up that he had to play the first 5 games just to stop fans demanding Belshaw was recalled. |
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