Rebuild summer 2024

All that is fine roady as long as the board gives him a top 6-8 budget in the summer. All I'm saying is the club as raised the bar now by publicity stating we are a ' top budgeted ' club. I been put in my place by people like you backing this .

Therefore : Taylor can be excused this season because he inherited Bartons team even though results have marginally improved. But fair is fair. If the club isn't in the top 8 by early November . What do we do ?. I just hope he's given the resources as promised.

Exeter had a good academy probably producing players like Vaughan, ours seems to be non existent with Ward the only player to step up since Hoole and even he's not an outfield player.

Loan players from Chelsea and the like seem to have taken the place of our own Academy.

The club needs a massive overhaul but I'm not sure the owners will be prepared to do it, rather than look for short-term gains.

Realistically what can MT plan when most managers depart within 2 years of being appointed. He's probably thinking he needs to produce a top 6 challenging squad in the summer or he'll be gone by this time next season.

For me the minimum I expect is a manager finishes relative to a league position to his budget and I also expect a good manager to over achieve. If he gets a top 8 budget again like Barton (we will know if this is true at the end of the season) then I expect 9,000 gates because we are sniffing around 6th place.

If I see hope in the side but a gelling period happening in November and say we are even 16th, why would we sack him? We never sacked Trolls in the Feb when we lost at Boston before our promotion, we we were showing promise in the JPT. We never sacked DC for a terrible start in the National League or Barton in Div2……….November last year because a manager said he expected promotion this season, he said it publicly. It was also because the manager was having a public breakdown which has carried on into his personal life now with his outbursts and comments. We forget he was calling his players idiots in publicly and personally insulting opposition managers like Evans.

Let’s get behind Taylor and give him time, the previous manager had two League 1 budgets building on a promotion Div2 side, he was failing terribly in the end, the form form January 1st 2022 was relegation form, something like 1.17 points a game over a calendar season.

The manager publicly called out Brown and Sinclair the other day. Presumably neither will be part of any rebuild.

Had Barton done that, he would rightly have been severely criticised.

Good to hear (well read) Taylor talking about building a "more durable squad". Its what we all can see is needed.
But also, not wanting a complete overhaul. As per the original post, still think we have a good core of 7/8 players we can build around plus a handful of youngsters that should be kept in the squad and tried properly in pre-season.
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I must of missed this, can you send me the link, did he use words like “acted or is an idiot” and did he publicly say he can’t trust them like with Trev Clarke, if so I will take it back 👍

Also, while there, send over the link for calling Charlie Adam a “bald prick”.

We got some desperate people on here trying to prove a point anyway.

DC spoke publicly about Ellis, in a professional way, as does MT re his players.

“If you had said to me at the end of last season Zain Westbrooke and Trevor Clarke were going to be in our starting XI on the opening day of the season, I would have said, ‘My god, we must have had a bad summer’.”

He’s a good kid, he just can’t play the position how I want it played,” Barton said.

“For me, he just doesn’t fill me with trust going forward. If I’m honest, I don’t trust him. I don’t think he’s the right component for us. We want to pass out, we want to play, and he’s not that type of full-back.”

“I’ve been telling Trev all summer ‘I don’t trust you,” Barton continued.

“You’re doing stuff in training, you’re not doing what I’m asking you to do, your retention of information I’m struggling with because how many times am I going to show you?’

“He’s not 17 or 19, he’s 24. So, at some point, the penny has got to drop. And after doing a year’s worth of work with him last year, I just got to the point where we need to pull up stumps here and just draw a line under it.

Any progress on the appointment of a recruitment department and scouting network? Difficult to look forward to any rebuild without that in place, especially when you consider things got even worse for Taylor at his previous club after breaking their transfer record twice in one summer. What will be any different here?

I’m confused, am I missing something, why would anyone compare anything until Taylor has his own summer transfer window and proper go at it.

I mean Hugo is always good at the stats, perhaps he can also stat us Barton taking over from Garner and Taylor taking over from Barton as well, we could divide it up and see a points per game total into the end of the season?

Let’s do this shall we👍

Hopefully it is raised (and answered satisfactorily) at the supporters club meet the owners in a few weeks. Anyone going? Please push this question!