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Post by socrates on Feb 7, 2024 0:25:57 GMT
Also seems obvious we didn't revert to "Barton Ball" it's just we were up against one of those teams happy to sit back and surrender possession. Yeah ok so when that happens you play a big diagonal ball to one side of the pitch in to dangerous areas and get your most creative players around your target man and overload that side - percentage football. You have a wing back ( which we played with ) giving width on the other side so you can switch it and open up their block. If we’d done that , won possession in their third played a cross field pass , opened them up and scored I don’t think anyone including you would have been complaining but we didn’t. You don’t play 300 passes across your back line in the hope something will change when clearly it’s not gonna. It’s the basics vs a low block. Taylor and his team can be forgiven for not working it out from the off but over the course of the game we probably got worse at the things we were poor at. But like I said in another post , that style of play generally hasn’t been Taylor’s way forwards so hopefully he’ll have learned his lesson and get us playing like a league 1 side again on Saturday.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2024 3:19:58 GMT
He went and loved Barton’s 17th finish, this bloke secretly enjoys it when we lose now and even BettyBlue is being positive. Give man a break, he inherited a terrible squad, we have players and several who can’t play twice a week, it’s crippling. Was this post meant for me ? I haven’t really been that critical of Taylor and I don’t know who you mean by secretly enjoying when we lose. Sorry it was aimed at Gastafari which you replied to him on a post, sorry for the confusion mate! The poster was Barton Fsn Club committee member
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2024 3:36:57 GMT
Posted the below on the rebuild for next season thread but it’s relevant to last night. This is bloke who has had a career, just come off a promotion in front of 15,000 every week and doesn’t really want to do it anymore. We need hungry captains all over the pitch, he ends it with “we have to keep on trying and see where we are” not re play offs, anything, just see where we are! He doesn’t hurt enough, he can’t stay fit either, I ask everyone to compare him to Tony Craig at the end of his career for us. x.com/official_brfc/status/1755010780150296758?s=48&t=bhN6HOKs1kzYSj3KfeKg9Q
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 7, 2024 5:40:18 GMT
Just got back..
What a horrendous night, credit to all that ventured out.
Anyhoos, onto less important things:
One thing you can count on this season is the inconsistencies in our play. I did warn against underestimating Fleetwood pre match. Probably the better technical team last night, but we were too easily muscled off the ball and physically lost that battle continuously. Also, they looked hungrier than us. Credit to Fleetwood. They're fighting for their lives, and the whittled out a way to win by surrendering possession and technical ability.
They were ably helped by an awful ref.
I think MT for it wrong throwing in all his loan signings for debut....I said pre match risky.... Burton on Saturday would be more conducive. Fleetwood too physical and we knew we were in a battle. I would have gone traditional 4-4-2 last night and stuck with the defence from Saturday.
Vaughan reminded me of Anthea Turner.... easily on the eye, bobbed up and down a bit, loads of effort but very little substance. Gave the ball away, tried to take on the whole team, pretty ineffective.
Baggot was at times too slow and on one occasion closed down from such a distance he didn't get his pass on... Their number 20 much admired, gave him a torrid first half.
Aguilera was head and shoulders above everyone with his playmaking ideals.... you could see how much time and control he commands with the ball. Ok, he overhit one or two, but his willingness to effect that crucial through ball was there to see.... only unfortunately everything ahead of him was statuesque. Which you could see, was frustrating.
The others....well this was the ponderous no tempo in attack Rovers we are used to seeing. It got marginally better with the enforced change of LT for Hunt, but our manager must coach a way into the lads against teams that come on to you, man mark and put five across the back.
Also, I'm not sure AE makes the best captain. A few times last night, he insisted on taking the corners when others were closer and just wanted to get on with it - yep, they couldn't find their intended because Fleetwood were massive. It's true CM had a bundled header saved on the line direct from corner, and the cheeky back heel that set up LT (both in first half) were AE inspired, but instinctively I think Wilson is a better at direction.
To conclude... Once again our weaknesses were exploited, and although we didn't play poorly, we just weren't up to the task of winning this because we are too slow in attack. But, hey it doesn't really matter, Fleetwood needed the points more and our whole demeanour reflected that. Congratulations to them, they deservedly won. A shame....another missed opportunity.
Hope everyone got home safe.
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Post by northseagas on Feb 7, 2024 6:01:37 GMT
Just back from 26 days away working west of Shetlands and was planning on doing what it took to get to the mem last night but bad weather up here made that decision for me so my money was wasted watching that dross in a hotel room in Aberdeen. Thank god it was only tenner down the sh**ter. I know the condition were bad but they were for both teams , fleetwood wanted it more and done a proper job on us. Still will be there for the burton game Utg
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 7, 2024 6:02:08 GMT
Was this post meant for me ? I haven’t really been that critical of Taylor and I don’t know who you mean by secretly enjoying when we lose. Sorry it was aimed at Gastafari which you replied to him on a post, sorry for the confusion mate! The poster was Barton Fsn Club committee member Making stuff up again. If we're sh**, I'll say we're sh**, regardless of who the manager is Likewise if we play well, I was full of praise after the Oxford win. Anyway now you and your alter ego are happy you've 'GoT yOuR rOvErS bAcK', you must be ecstatic that the 'Marquee' signing who you were boasting about is being asked to play in Defensive Midfield? You must of loved that performance last night? It isn't the first time that Matt Taylor has put a team out at home that has stunk the place out. Of course, anybody that mentions that, must be a paid up member of the Barton Fan Club.
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Post by kampucheagas on Feb 7, 2024 6:46:56 GMT
Frustrating
I’ve said all season that 6th spot is there for the taking but it looks like our inability to sign a pacy goalscorer will mean we just don’t have what it takes
Not sure playing with almost half the team coming from players that probably won’t be here in a few months is the way to go, can imagine a fair amount of despondent players trudging into training knowing the manager favours an untried kid to them!
I can only assume MT has made his mind up and there will be a very big exodus come the summer
Low crowd, and it looks like a bit of a struggle to whimper past 52 points and then we go again
Shame, as this was a season where League 1 was there for the taking
UTG
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Post by returnofthedust on Feb 7, 2024 7:15:00 GMT
Sorry it was aimed at Gastafari which you replied to him on a post, sorry for the confusion mate! The poster was Barton Fsn Club committee member Making stuff up again. If we're sh**, I'll say we're sh**, regardless of who the manager is Likewise if we play well, I was full of praise after the Oxford win. Anyway now you and your alter ego are happy you've 'GoT yOuR rOvErS bAcK', you must be ecstatic that the 'Marquee' signing who you were boasting about is being asked to play in Defensive Midfield? You must of loved that performance last night? It isn't the first time that Matt Taylor has put a team out at home that has stunk the place out. Of course, anybody that mentions that, must be a paid up member of the Barton Fan Club. Don’t bring me into this, pal. I dont communicate with you on this platform so keep my name out your mouth 👍🏻
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Post by gashead79 on Feb 7, 2024 7:16:52 GMT
Making stuff up again. If we're sh**, I'll say we're sh**, regardless of who the manager is Likewise if we play well, I was full of praise after the Oxford win. Anyway now you and your alter ego are happy you've 'GoT yOuR rOvErS bAcK', you must be ecstatic that the 'Marquee' signing who you were boasting about is being asked to play in Defensive Midfield? You must of loved that performance last night? It isn't the first time that Matt Taylor has put a team out at home that has stunk the place out. Of course, anybody that mentions that, must be a paid up member of the Barton Fan Club. Don’t bring me into this, pal. I dont communicate with you on this platform so keep my name out your mouth 👍🏻 Didn't see your name?
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Post by gashead79 on Feb 7, 2024 7:17:57 GMT
There's mention of Stevenage, top 6, closing gaps on this thread. Seriously? Why?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 7, 2024 7:18:54 GMT
Frustrating I’ve said all season that 6th spot is there for the taking but it looks like our inability to sign a pacy goalscorer will mean we just don’t have what it takes Not sure playing with almost half the team coming from players that probably won’t be here in a few months is the way to go, can imagine a fair amount of despondent players trudging into training knowing the manager favours an untried kid to them! I can only assume MT has made his mind up and there will be a very big exodus come the summer Low crowd, and it looks like a bit of a struggle to whimper past 52 points and then we go again Shame, as this was a season where League 1 was there for the taking UTG We need to be ruthless in the summer. I genuinely wouldn't be too bothered about losing any of the players out of contract. We have too many players that are either not good enough or too injury prone and it's a good opportunity to build our team round several players. I remember one season when Chris Powell came in at Charlton half way through one season, it was a dead season. He assessed what they had during that season, got rid of the rubbish. Built on the foundations and they ended up getting promoted the following season. That is the job Taylor needs to look at. Your Rich, Socrates etc talking about Playoffs and promotion this season had a reality check last night.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2024 7:21:10 GMT
Summed it all up when he brought friend on for a few minutes. Knew he was desperate to pack the team out with defenders at the end but what was that going to achieve apart from him picking up a injury.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 7, 2024 7:22:10 GMT
LATE NEWS:
For all you JedWard sychophants out there....I think it was the first time ever I've seen our Keeps take a throw in !?
... and he mastered it perfectly.
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Post by returnofthedust on Feb 7, 2024 7:24:19 GMT
Don’t bring me into this, pal. I dont communicate with you on this platform so keep my name out your mouth 👍🏻 Didn't see your name? “Your alter ego” He’s on about me and I don’t communicate with him cause I think he’s a chopper
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 7, 2024 7:27:48 GMT
Making stuff up again. If we're sh**, I'll say we're sh**, regardless of who the manager is Likewise if we play well, I was full of praise after the Oxford win. Anyway now you and your alter ego are happy you've 'GoT yOuR rOvErS bAcK', you must be ecstatic that the 'Marquee' signing who you were boasting about is being asked to play in Defensive Midfield? You must of loved that performance last night? It isn't the first time that Matt Taylor has put a team out at home that has stunk the place out. Of course, anybody that mentions that, must be a paid up member of the Barton Fan Club. Don’t bring me into this, pal. I dont communicate with you on this platform so keep my name out your mouth 👍🏻 Funny that.
As you just did.
No doubt, you and Batman will run of crying again soon.
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Post by returnofthedust on Feb 7, 2024 7:28:08 GMT
There's mention of Stevenage, top 6, closing gaps on this thread. Seriously? Why? It’s been laughable for at least 5 games that anyone’s been mentioning it. It’s staring everyone in the face that we’re miles away from having anywhere near good enough players to finish top 6.
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Post by returnofthedust on Feb 7, 2024 7:30:05 GMT
Don’t bring me into this, pal. I dont communicate with you on this platform so keep my name out your mouth 👍🏻 Funny that.
As you just did.
No doubt, you and Batman will run of crying again soon.
I communicated because you just mentioned me you idiot. It’s been discussed more than once that I left this forum because of a serious illness to a close family member, more than happy to meet up with you and educate you on the outcomes of this for the individual who’s unwell and their close family members. Let me know where you’ll be drinking next game and I’ll pop along 👍🏻
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2024 7:33:03 GMT
Sorry it was aimed at Gastafari which you replied to him on a post, sorry for the confusion mate! The poster was Barton Fsn Club committee member Making stuff up again. If we're sh**, I'll say we're sh**, regardless of who the manager is Likewise if we play well, I was full of praise after the Oxford win. Anyway now you and your alter ego are happy you've 'GoT yOuR rOvErS bAcK', you must be ecstatic that the 'Marquee' signing who you were boasting about is being asked to play in Defensive Midfield? You must of loved that performance last night? It isn't the first time that Matt Taylor has put a team out at home that has stunk the place out. Of course, anybody that mentions that, must be a paid up member of the Barton Fan Club. First of all, let’s clear something up, you were a massive Barton supporter and you were unhappy he was sacked. My post match post on here said MT got it wrong with the side he picked tonight. The manager inherited a terrible situation and squad. We have a 19 year old in goal because his world class loan signing in front of him is brilliant. The defence changes every game because Hunt, Wilson and Friend can’t stay fit or can’t he trusted to play twice in a week. Let’s judge him properly and not glorify in us losing until he’s got his own side next season. Finley and Ward would have made a massive difference last night, you can carry a Ward (injured a lot) if in the main you have a fit squad and replacements. But again look at him, Bogarde and Woods to replace him, now relying on a kid from Forest to do it straight away. We were all disappointed last night, you glorified in it. I’m just glad he never called Wilson an idiot for his defending and I hope he doesn’t send Bagott back like Bobby Thomas
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2024 7:43:16 GMT
Absolute sh*te! Terrible team selection, game plan, game management and substitutions. That's what you get. If I was Aguilera I'd be wanting to go back to Forest ASAP. You've got an absolute gem of an attacking talent, being asked to play just in front of the back 4. Wasted. Pathetic. Good job we didn't ask Elliot Anderson to play the Makelele role! If this is the Football we are going to be served up the majority of the time under Matt Taylor then I ain't interested. I'm sure I'm not alone. Here you go, your last sentence. Well it’s not his squad so let’s judge his football when it is, I mean he was left with so much pace wasn’t he up front! You ain’t interested, that’s fine, you were not interested at the start, your hero was sacked! Just had a look at who liked your posts, good old Betty! And before you mention, Dust, you mentioned him. You ain’t getting the wife beater back pal, move on, you sound not interested, Gas Girls or Mangos 👍
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Post by supergas on Feb 7, 2024 7:45:08 GMT
Not sure playing with almost half the team coming from players that probably won’t be here in a few months is the way to go, can imagine a fair amount of despondent players trudging into training knowing the manager favours an untried kid to them! I can only assume MT has made his mind up and there will be a very big exodus come the summer We have to ask what kind of players we want and need at the club I guess. If their heads drop because they're not being picked at the moment, are out of contract in the summer or are not happy with the managers decisions then why are they here picking up a wage every week? I genuinely think many footballers at this level don't realise how lucky they are. They clearly have some level of skill to get the contract in the first place, but mentally many of them seem so weak and that seems to then affect their performance - no idea how they would handle a 45-hr/week proper job....
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