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Post by aghast on Feb 12, 2024 22:40:00 GMT
Pretty certain in his RB interview he suggested that they pulled out as they couldn't get an agreement and the plans were going nowhere, not that CI had pulled out. Now it seems we're allowed to talk about it after nearly 5 wasted years might be worth a reporter clarifying that with the owners. Did we pull the plug or conygar. "AlSaeed said that the fruit market “wasn’t really completely on the table” despite the club saying in April that they were close to “finalise the plans unlocking the potential of the site for the city and the football club”, even producing a video announcing the proposed move. “After a meeting or two, we thought we’re not really close to any deal,” said AlSaeed about the proposed move to the fruit market site. “I cannot blame the developer for not really going ahead at the end of the day. They are profit-orientated and we don’t have control over the land, neither the finance, so we couldn’t really influence. “We tried. We tried to work with them, tried to accommodate what they requested but as close we get, as far they leave us, and we thought that is going nowhere and we couldn’t continue. “So we’re going to concentrate now on developing the Memorial bit by bit so we don’t have to leave it.” " www.bristol247.com/sport/football/rovers-chairman-reveals-details-memorial-stadium-redevelopment/#:~:text=Hussain%20AlSaeed%20becomes%20new%20co%2Downer%20of%20Bristol%20Rovers
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Post by gashead79 on Feb 12, 2024 22:45:07 GMT
Can't see what the fuss is about. Everything in the letter had already been said in the previous interviews with RB and ITV. However the narrative has altered regarding the FM stadium and saying Championship in 3 years is just flannel as was saying the target was the Premier League previously. This summer will just be another cycle of new players not being together from the start of pre season and taking a couple of months to "gel" Also no one said previously the stadium would be 18k but 16-17k When they talked about the Premier League I assumed they meant longer term, like one day. 3 years to Championship sounds reasonable and by then hopefully the ground will hold 16K. Realistically from there you're looking at least around 5 years to establish and build. It didn't really sound like they'd changed the projections to me, just more realistic aims. 3 years to the championship sounds reasonable? For us? Does it? Over the next 3 years, sides will dropping out of the league above who are massive and wealthy compared to us. Look at the bottom half of the champ and I dont see many sides we'll be above in 3 years at all. Even a good 8 in our division will fancy their chances ahead of us. Proof will be in the pudding though, so let's hope for brighter years ahead🥮
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Post by gasgas3 on Feb 12, 2024 23:01:12 GMT
Wait and see I guess.
Must be some money somewhere if targeting Champ in 3 years. L1 is a difficult league to get out of if you don’t have the funds and more importantly some very astute people making the right moves and decisions.
It will be a big ask, but let’s get on the bus for the ride.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Feb 12, 2024 23:03:28 GMT
It's a nothing letter without anything of substance. Talk is cheap. How do we expect to build a "competitive first team" when we don't have any scouting or recruitment support staff? Unbelievable it hasn't been addressed yet. "We are committed to providing Matt with full backing and the resources needed to make this vision a reality". As always at this football club, I'll believe it when I see it! It’s true, saying and doing are two different things. As per usual we live in hope. Wouldn’t it be great if we had more than hope and actually achieved, for a change
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Feb 12, 2024 23:05:58 GMT
There really are some negative nancy's on here. If they don't spend in the summer as promised, complain then. A rebuild takes time and rushing things in the January window would have been another waste of money. Comes from experience I am afraid. We have lived on see you in my dreams and we used to be good with it, until the www changed that. I know this is unpopular opinion but I liked being the underdog. It, however, be great, to actually achieve.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Feb 12, 2024 23:07:31 GMT
So you’d actively want us to lose matches in the championship? Rubbish I’m not sure why he supports us or a football team either. Imagine being a Cherries fan seeing Solanke tear apart top sides. Luton Town fans are loving it as well, I was in the away end at Brentford when we won 6-2 as well under Holloway. He also doesn’t mention that his assistant is part time. Very telling imo
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Post by popuppirate on Feb 12, 2024 23:12:19 GMT
When they talked about the Premier League I assumed they meant longer term, like one day. 3 years to Championship sounds reasonable and by then hopefully the ground will hold 16K. Realistically from there you're looking at least around 5 years to establish and build. It didn't really sound like they'd changed the projections to me, just more realistic aims. 3 years to the championship sounds reasonable? For us? Does it? Over the next 3 years, sides will dropping out of the league above who are massive and wealthy compared to us. Look at the bottom half of the champ and I dont see many sides we'll be above in 3 years at all. Even a good 8 in our division will fancy their chances ahead of us. Proof will be in the pudding though, so let's hope for brighter years ahead🥮 It sounds reasonable to me, yeah. I'd have thought most clubs of our standing would have that as an aspiration. They're talking about increasing the attendance further and backing the manager financially. All we can do is choose to believe them or not. I'm choosing to believe them now, but that is subject to change, we'll be nearer to knowing in the summer.
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Post by joefrankie on Feb 12, 2024 23:14:24 GMT
Amazes me that some fans can read what looks like a positive letter and find nothing but negatives in it . All life is here ! 😂👍 7 years ago we were told it was evolution and not a revolution. 2 months ago we were told “we will spend a little this window” but we are going for the Premiership. Now a 3 year Championship target, not we aim to get to this level as quick as we can with another top 8 budget? Do up the Mem, not a new East Stand, a Carlisle version, I don’t see how this will be fit for the Premiership and a 16,000 stadium. Luton are building a new one, Bournemouth also building a new stadium www.thesun.co.uk/sport/25261476/premier-league-bournemouth-new-stadium/amp/So I’m negative, 3 years to the Championship in a banger stadium, and this will then take us to the promised land! Last year it was the FM site video, around ST announcement time, now this latest one. If people can’t read between the lines that cuts are coming and being made as we speak, they are clueless. I know for a fact Wayne Carlisle agreed a full time deal, and it was pulled. I’ve mentioned hotel rooms cancelled, it’s only Taylor and his contacts that will keep us going, if he fails we can’t afford to pay 3 management teams so you might as well get behind him I haven’t seen the quote which says we’re going for a Carlisle copy for our East Stand. Can you re-post it?
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Feb 12, 2024 23:42:10 GMT
Upon taking the helm, we quickly discovered that the developer involved in the previous stadium development plans at the fruit market site chose not to proceed further with the project I thought we pulled out as the deal wasnt right? So it was conygar that pulled the plug then?? At last. I did try to tell you guys but never mind. I am in no competition
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Post by darkbluegas on Feb 13, 2024 0:12:11 GMT
Upon taking the helm, we quickly discovered that the developer involved in the previous stadium development plans at the fruit market site chose not to proceed further with the project I thought we pulled out as the deal wasnt right? So it was conygar that pulled the plug then?? At last. I did try to tell you guys but never mind. I am in no competition No possibility that when Conygar realised that we were in a position to pump £3.50 into the project that they pulled the idea of a stadium then. There certainly were no other takers for a stadium on the site
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Post by gasandelectricity on Feb 13, 2024 1:08:46 GMT
Let’s see what we end up getting.
That will truly dictate if the letter is empty words trying to generate season ticket sales or if it’s a real statement of ambition.
However I’d take an East stand extension and championship in 3 years.
Far better than blueprints for a stadium that will never actually happen.
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Post by singupgas on Feb 13, 2024 3:32:21 GMT
Let’s see what we end up getting. That will truly dictate if the letter is empty words trying to generate season ticket sales or if it’s a real statement of ambition. However I’d take an East stand extension and championship in 3 years. Far better than blueprints for a stadium that will never actually happen. 16k may sound nice, but as I've already said it seems shortsighted and hardly that ambitious for the space particularly on the east side. If it really ends up being a bolted on extensions of current stands and pillars everywhere. Then it won't be a huge improvement. One of the biggest cities in UK and we don't seem to take advantage of that, or owners realise potential. Everything else in the letter sounds great though.
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Post by gulfofaden on Feb 13, 2024 6:46:37 GMT
Things to remember guys, it’s competitive and really hard.
Even if you do everything right; you can still lose.
As an example, injuries. It is not as simple as you think. All the other teams are trying as hard as we are.
Being honest, mid table L1 is about our level. Of course I want more but for goodness sake, City have spent over 100M for about 20 league places above us.
You can hope to do a Luton and get lucky, and we may one day.
Go easy on the board and manager. As far as I can see they are putting their money and their time where their mouth is.
We are batting at our level and that’s better than we had for years. Our time will come I am sure.
All we can do is be the best fans we can be and make the Mem a place opposition teams fear. Are we doing that? No. We can be a weak home crowd and we need the team to act first.
How about instead of barraging the board, we grab our testicles and resolve to make the mem like ninnian park in the 90s. An inferno.
That’s all we can do. Sing your heart out instead of finding other fans to shop to the stasi for singing about the IRA. Give your head a wobble, get some pints down you and let’s ave it.
Or words to this effect.
I remember in the Holloway days going 3-0 down at home and the blackthorn giving a massive, loud rendition of Irene. Pretty sure we rescued that game. That wouldn’t happen now, we’ve become like t the old city fans we hated.
Culture change needed.
Once we’ve proven ourselves as fans again then maybe we can criticise.
Yes I am on holiday and yes I’ve had a few rice wines but I mean every word.
Get on board or get out.
UTFG. We can do this!
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Post by percy on Feb 13, 2024 7:52:09 GMT
Things to remember guys, it’s competitive and really hard. Even if you do everything right; you can still lose. As an example, injuries. It is not as simple as you think. All the other teams are trying as hard as we are. Being honest, mid table L1 is about our level. Of course I want more but for goodness sake, City have spent over 100M for about 20 league places above us. You can hope to do a Luton and get lucky, and we may one day. Go easy on the board and manager. As far as I can see they are putting their money and their time where their mouth is. We are batting at our level and that’s better than we had for years. Our time will come I am sure. All we can do is be the best fans we can be and make the Mem a place opposition teams fear. Are we doing that? No. We can be a weak home crowd and we need the team to act first. How about instead of barraging the board, we grab our testicles and resolve to make the mem like ninnian park in the 90s. An inferno. That’s all we can do. Sing your heart out instead of finding other fans to shop to the stasi for singing about the IRA. Give your head a wobble, get some pints down you and let’s ave it. Or words to this effect. I remember in the Holloway days going 3-0 down at home and the blackthorn giving a massive, loud rendition of Irene. Pretty sure we rescued that game. That wouldn’t happen now, we’ve become like t the old city fans we hated. Culture change needed. Once we’ve proven ourselves as fans again then maybe we can criticise. Yes I am on holiday and yes I’ve had a few rice wines but I mean every word. Get on board or get out. UTFG. We can do this! Spot on
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Post by madgas on Feb 13, 2024 7:57:26 GMT
Things to remember guys, it’s competitive and really hard. Even if you do everything right; you can still lose. As an example, injuries. It is not as simple as you think. All the other teams are trying as hard as we are. Being honest, mid table L1 is about our level. Of course I want more but for goodness sake, City have spent over 100M for about 20 league places above us. You can hope to do a Luton and get lucky, and we may one day. Go easy on the board and manager. As far as I can see they are putting their money and their time where their mouth is. We are batting at our level and that’s better than we had for years. Our time will come I am sure. All we can do is be the best fans we can be and make the Mem a place opposition teams fear. Are we doing that? No. We can be a weak home crowd and we need the team to act first. How about instead of barraging the board, we grab our testicles and resolve to make the mem like ninnian park in the 90s. An inferno. That’s all we can do. Sing your heart out instead of finding other fans to shop to the stasi for singing about the IRA. Give your head a wobble, get some pints down you and let’s ave it. Or words to this effect. I remember in the Holloway days going 3-0 down at home and the blackthorn giving a massive, loud rendition of Irene. Pretty sure we rescued that game. That wouldn’t happen now, we’ve become like t the old city fans we hated. Culture change needed. Once we’ve proven ourselves as fans again then maybe we can criticise. Yes I am on holiday and yes I’ve had a few rice wines but I mean every word. Get on board or get out. UTFG. We can do this! Not spot on. I like alot of the energy but- get on board or get out. Alot of money men have come into football and tanked clubs with respected histories. Fans are right to review the credentials of owners actions. This was some improved communication and I think it's fair to give them the benefit of the doubt but I'll be paying attention to see if these words are backed up.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Feb 13, 2024 8:20:33 GMT
At last. I did try to tell you guys but never mind. I am in no competition No possibility that when Conygar realised that we were in a position to pump £3.50 into the project that they pulled the idea of a stadium then. There certainly were no other takers for a stadium on the site Not looking for an argument, CI did not see a stadium as viable. Wael knew of this and was bereft. He did try a last minute meeting, which got them to the final meeting. That is all. Onwards we go
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Post by bidefordgas on Feb 13, 2024 8:23:54 GMT
I’m not sure why he supports us or a football team either. Imagine being a Cherries fan seeing Solanke tear apart top sides. Luton Town fans are loving it as well, I was in the away end at Brentford when we won 6-2 as well under Holloway. He also doesn’t mention that his assistant is part time. Very telling imo McAlister is Taylor’s assistant manager and is full time.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Feb 13, 2024 8:25:20 GMT
He also doesn’t mention that his assistant is part time. Very telling imo McAlister is Taylor’s assistant manager and is full time. Really ? Good to hear Dave, a little reassurance.
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 13, 2024 8:28:17 GMT
Glad to see the obligatory typos, definitely embracing the Rovers ethos. 😁
Overall, it's what we've been asking for, it's decent communication and although it says 3 years for Championship football remember that's "within" and not "not before". It probably dovetails with the stadium and The Quarters development.
Setting the foundations.
With regards to the team, nice words but this needs to be put into action. Conteh's signing was a good benchmark, we'll see soon enough if that was a one off or the start of a genuine move towards a different approach. I've no objection to a smaller, younger but better talented squad able to develop over a couple of seasons together (if that is the plan).
Capacity wise, 16,000 is a start imo. From memory the West stand is to remain so potential expansion there in say, 5 years time, of few more, should the need arise. Maybe even extending to replace the South West stand eventually.
The Quarters sound good, I'm disappointed they need to introduce a residential area but if that makes it viable then so be it. Wonder if we are just selling an area or if we would effectively become landlords and generate regular income?
Overall, fine. We have a timeline now rather than a generic vague aspiration. We need to hold them to their word but if they show signs of progress we should also give them support.
The litmus test will be the summer signings and ground development, hopefully getting plans in the near future.
The next 6 months could be pivotal. Certainly not boring being a Gashead. 😃
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Post by bidefordgas on Feb 13, 2024 8:33:20 GMT
McAlister is Taylor’s assistant manager and is full time. Really ? Good to hear Dave, a little reassurance. Carlisle has a player development role on a part time basis. Something tells me if he was promised a full time role and then the club changed it at the last minute to a two day role, he would have in no uncertain terms told them where to stuff it. Perhaps he was happy to do a part time job, after all he must have got a decent payoff from Rotherham. But I hasten to add I’m not itk, like some on here.
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