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Post by bidefordgas on Feb 22, 2024 10:02:12 GMT
I guess he was just SWEPT away. Couldn't get a HANDLE on our rise through the leagues. Must have been a BRISTLY meeting with Darrell Clarke when he was told he was off. I'll get my coat... First one doesn't make sense, second one is ok, third is dire. Brush up on your punning ability "SleepyGas". Stop trying to sweep his post under the table! |
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Post by returngas on Feb 22, 2024 10:23:35 GMT
Unfortunately that happens from time to time. All clubs are guilty of it. For us, surely the biggest mistake we've ever made with a youth/young player was letting Bobby Zamora leave. I remember talking to Broomy at the time. He was a victim of our success, we were always a league ahead of the league he needed at that time. A wonderful bloke and I'm glad he's had a successful career. Remember DC saying at the time that releasing Ryan Broom was a decision that might come back to bite him. |
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 22, 2024 10:41:11 GMT
The issue is with a lot of youngsters there's no development plans in place. City currently have 9 players in their squad who've come through the Youth Team. There's a clear progression path there with loans looked after by a loan manager. That makes sure players get the right loans at the right stage of development. Our processes seem to be a little more hit and miss which, leads to players not quite being in the place needed to come in. Oh well!
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 22, 2024 10:42:07 GMT
Unfortunately that happens from time to time. All clubs are guilty of it. For us, surely the biggest mistake we've ever made with a youth/young player was letting Bobby Zamora leave. I remember talking to Broomy at the time. He was a victim of our success, we were always a league ahead of the league he needed at that time. A wonderful bloke and I'm glad he's had a successful career. I think that was pretty much the same as Bobby Zamora as well. He was a young kid the same time as Roberts, Cureton and Ellington. We were a league ahead of what he needed at the time. Hindsights a wonderful thing, but I don't think anybody thought Zamora would go on to have a better career than all of them. |
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Post by gasgas3 on Feb 22, 2024 10:54:16 GMT
TBF, DC let the lot go in his last season. Exact words to the 2nd year lads coach was are they good enough for me to put them in on Saturday. Response was no they are only 18 and need time.
I don’t know who’s right or wrong with that.
My lads team has a 2nd year on loan, two clubs in the same division this season apparently. (He used to play with him). Excellent player, just is a fish out of water because he just hasn’t had the experience of playing mens football at any level.
Just a complete re think imo.
Or continue to sign “experience” or loans that can’t get into their parent team.
Someone needs to make a decision either way.
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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 22, 2024 10:55:48 GMT
From what I've seen of Jones I'd say he's as good as Gordon if not better with more potential.
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Post by Sir Trevor on Feb 22, 2024 11:40:44 GMT
Ryan Jones has started ONE match and been a sub SIX times for us in over two seasons.
On loan he has played sporadically for a number of clubs. He has started 12 games in two and a half seasons for BRFC, Bath City, Hungerford and Bromley.
In 20 appearances for these four sides he has been given 8 Yellow and One Red card.
Lewis Gordon has started 55 games for us and been a sub 10 times in the same spell.
Lewis also has an excellent disciplinary record.
He has not been booked this season and had only 3 Yellow cards in FORTY FIVE appearances for us last season.
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Feb 22, 2024 12:12:06 GMT
Ryan Jones has started ONE match and been a sub SIX times for us in over two seasons. On loan he has played sporadically for a number of clubs. He has started 12 games in two and a half seasons for BRFC, Bath City, Hungerford and Bromley. In 20 appearances for these four sides he has been given 8 Yellow and One Red card. Lewis Gordon has started 55 games for us and been a sub 10 times in the same spell. Lewis also has an excellent disciplinary record. He has not been booked this season and had only 3 Yellow cards in FORTY FIVE appearances for us last season. I think this is part of the game Gordon needs to improve on? For me he's not competitive enough, needs to be more aggressive. I'm not saying he needs to pick up silly bookings, but players who are competitive tend to pick up more bookings. For me the jury is out on Gordon, at times he looks OK, other times, especially against more physical teams he struggles. I've not seen enough of Jones, to know what he's like or even if they would play in a similar position. |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Feb 22, 2024 13:14:42 GMT
I remember talking to Broomy at the time. He was a victim of our success, we were always a league ahead of the league he needed at that time. A wonderful bloke and I'm glad he's had a successful career. I think that was pretty much the same as Bobby Zamora as well. He was a young kid the same time as Roberts, Cureton and Ellington. We were a league ahead of what he needed at the time. Hindsights a wonderful thing, but I don't think anybody thought Zamora would go on to have a better career than all of them. If I remember correctly, we sold both Robert’s & Cureton not long after Zomora left, then we got relegated! Like you said, hindsight is a wonderful thing! |
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 22, 2024 13:27:08 GMT
I think that was pretty much the same as Bobby Zamora as well. He was a young kid the same time as Roberts, Cureton and Ellington. We were a league ahead of what he needed at the time. Hindsights a wonderful thing, but I don't think anybody thought Zamora would go on to have a better career than all of them. If I remember correctly, we sold both Robert’s & Cureton not long after Zomora left, then we got relegated! Like you said, hindsight is a wonderful thing! Roberts - 26/07/2000 Zamora - 01/08/2000 Tillson - 04/08/2000 Cureton - 15/08/2000 Surely the worst 3 weeks of transfer business in the clubs history. At one stage of the season all four divisions of the Football League had ex-Rovers strikers leading the goalscoring charts; PL Stewart, Ch Roberts, L1 Cureton & L2 Zamora. |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Feb 22, 2024 13:41:33 GMT
If I remember correctly, we sold both Robert’s & Cureton not long after Zomora left, then we got relegated! Like you said, hindsight is a wonderful thing! Roberts - 26/07/2000 Zamora - 01/08/2000 Tillson - 04/08/2000 Cureton - 15/08/2000 Surely the worst 3 weeks of transfer business in the clubs history. At one stage of the season all four divisions of the Football League had ex-Rovers strikers leading the goalscoring charts; PL Stewart, Ch Roberts, L1 Cureton & L2 Zamora. Wow! Didn’t we then spend 250k on Mickey Evans to replace both Robert’s & Cureton?! |
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 22, 2024 13:53:12 GMT
Roberts - 26/07/2000 Zamora - 01/08/2000 Tillson - 04/08/2000 Cureton - 15/08/2000 Surely the worst 3 weeks of transfer business in the clubs history. At one stage of the season all four divisions of the Football League had ex-Rovers strikers leading the goalscoring charts; PL Stewart, Ch Roberts, L1 Cureton & L2 Zamora. Wow! Didn’t we then spend 250k on Mickey Evans to replace both Robert’s & Cureton?! Yep. Paid money for Scott Jones & Mark Foran as well... |
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Post by SleepyGas on Feb 22, 2024 13:54:17 GMT
If I remember correctly, we sold both Robert’s & Cureton not long after Zomora left, then we got relegated! Like you said, hindsight is a wonderful thing! Roberts - 26/07/2000 Zamora - 01/08/2000 Tillson - 04/08/2000 Cureton - 15/08/2000 Surely the worst 3 weeks of transfer business in the clubs history. At one stage of the season all four divisions of the Football League had ex-Rovers strikers leading the goalscoring charts; PL Stewart, Ch Roberts, L1 Cureton & L2 Zamora. Awful period for us in general. The unbelievable collapse from top of L1 to outside the play-offs in our last 10 games. Losing to (already relegated) Cardiff in our last game to drop outside the playoffs IIRC. Selling off some of our best players and getting relegated the next season. First time in L2? Never been in the same league as City since. I remember being shocked at us selling Zamora to Brighton after he was banging them in for them on loan beforehand. Especially given we sold off Roberts & Cureton. We did land on our feet a bit with Ellington.. but still. Michel Kuipers and Zamora then rising up the leagues with Brighton and overtaking us in the process. Nightmare. Cashing in on Roberts (£3m?).. maybe fair enough. But Cureton/Zamora went for relative peanuts  www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bristol-rovers/rekordabgaenge/verein/2455/plus/0/galerie/0?saison_id=2000&pos=&detailpos=&w_s= |
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Post by SleepyGas on Feb 22, 2024 13:55:32 GMT
Wow! Didn’t we then spend 250k on Mickey Evans to replace both Robert’s & Cureton?! Yep. Paid money for Scott Jones & Mark Foran as well... Scott Jones.. that name sends a shiver down my spine after his last minute penalty vs City was saved in our relegation season |
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Post by kentgas on Feb 22, 2024 14:26:07 GMT
If I remember correctly, we sold both Robert’s & Cureton not long after Zomora left, then we got relegated! Like you said, hindsight is a wonderful thing! Roberts - 26/07/2000 Zamora - 01/08/2000 Tillson - 04/08/2000 Cureton - 15/08/2000 Surely the worst 3 weeks of transfer business in the clubs history. At one stage of the season all four divisions of the Football League had ex-Rovers strikers leading the goalscoring charts; PL Stewart, Ch Roberts, L1 Cureton & L2 Zamora. Yes, never understood the timing of Zamora’s sale. It was clear that Roberts and Cureton were going that summer - iirc they weren’t taken on the pre season tour to Ireland for that very reason. Would have been the perfect opportunity to give Zamora game time to see if he could step up or if we needed a more experienced replacement for the two going. |
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Post by yattongas on Feb 22, 2024 14:38:08 GMT
From what I've seen of Jones I'd say he's as good as Gordon if not better with more potential. That doesn’t say a lot as Gordon ain’t good enough! |
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Post by percy on Feb 22, 2024 14:42:28 GMT
Back to topic. Jones and Gordon need to be give a season. We have invested in both. Both are capable of being squad players. Let's give them a chance to prove they can be more, or they move on.
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 22, 2024 14:58:11 GMT
Roberts - 26/07/2000 Zamora - 01/08/2000 Tillson - 04/08/2000 Cureton - 15/08/2000 Surely the worst 3 weeks of transfer business in the clubs history. At one stage of the season all four divisions of the Football League had ex-Rovers strikers leading the goalscoring charts; PL Stewart, Ch Roberts, L1 Cureton & L2 Zamora. Wow! Didn’t we then spend 250k on Mickey Evans to replace both Robert’s & Cureton?! Mickey Evans was about £300k I think. We also signed Martin Cameron from north of the border. Justin Richards. Clinton Ellis. We had a Norwegian bloke was it something Johanson? Mousa Dagnogo Christian Lee Ansah Owusu All strikers used that season. Unbelievable |
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Post by nailseamark on Feb 22, 2024 15:12:04 GMT
Why did we release Christian Lee? It says he scored 7 in 9 and then dropped in to non league?
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 22, 2024 15:19:08 GMT
Wow! Didn’t we then spend 250k on Mickey Evans to replace both Robert’s & Cureton?! Mickey Evans was about £300k I think. We also signed Martin Cameron from north of the border. Justin Richards. Clinton Ellis. We had a Norwegian bloke was it something Johanson? Mousa Dagnogo Christian Lee Ansah Owusu All strikers used that season. Unbelievable Won't have a bad word said about The Moose, managed to be offside wherever he was on the pitch. Was flagged off defending a corner in his own box, I swear. |
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