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Post by rememberhalifax on Mar 13, 2024 11:40:16 GMT
Well following a disappointing home performance V a fancied team the motivation levels for a long trip north to face a struggling team on a Tuesday night in March were probably not that high for Fans or team! To return with a point is not IMHO that bad and I would not be surprised if it's the springboard for a good performance at Lincoln returning from there with 3 points.
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Post by eric on Mar 13, 2024 11:50:38 GMT
Is Baggott a realistic target this summer? I reckon so, clearly not good enough for Prem if Ipswich get promoted so let’s hope that happens. I wasn’t impressed by his first game or two but he’s progressing nicely. Perhaps Connor Taylor needs to get in his ear and convince him dropping a division is the best option for his career long term. |
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Post by eric on Mar 13, 2024 11:51:23 GMT
Just listened to MTs comments after the game and was amazed he thought Gordon and Hoole did well…. They were shocking. Hoole was beaten all night by Patterson and even almost set up an assist by padding directly to a player who then hit the bar. No idea how he missed the sitter at the other end. He needs to improve fast or he will be in L2 next year. Taylor and Baggott were excellent throughout and they both had a right scrap with Omochere and Stockley. Captain Sam and KC did well to nullify the colossus Lawal. That MT called the night a success shows how low our expectations are being pushed … Fleetwood have the second worst goals against record ( we didn’t add to that over two games) and the second worst home record . Marks we saw them… Ward -6! Hoole -4 Taylor-7 Baggott-7 Gordon-5 Finley - 7 Evans-6 Conteh -7 Sinclair-6 Vale-6 Martin -6 Subs - not really time to do much albeit Vaughan is just an embarrassment. Would definitely keep tabs on Omochere and Lawal - Evans 6? He was the best player on the pitch. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 13, 2024 12:29:18 GMT
Just got back from frozen iFollow.
Well well well there's a surprise?
We can't beat a relegation northern team in winter away?
Biggest meh this season.
35 mins Evans has a double corner, then another quick one soon after.....they all hit first defender.
Again!?
And continues his Westbrookesque deliveries ....
Shows someone doesn't give a fig.
I feel for the travelling faithful.
They care more.
Will leave it at that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2024 12:51:01 GMT
Just listened to MTs comments after the game and was amazed he thought Gordon and Hoole did well…. They were shocking. Hoole was beaten all night by Patterson and even almost set up an assist by padding directly to a player who then hit the bar. No idea how he missed the sitter at the other end. He needs to improve fast or he will be in L2 next year. Taylor and Baggott were excellent throughout and they both had a right scrap with Omochere and Stockley. Captain Sam and KC did well to nullify the colossus Lawal. That MT called the night a success shows how low our expectations are being pushed … Fleetwood have the second worst goals against record ( we didn’t add to that over two games) and the second worst home record . Marks we saw them… Ward -6! Hoole -4 Taylor-7 Baggott-7 Gordon-5 Finley - 7 Evans-6 Conteh -7 Sinclair-6 Vale-6 Martin -6 Subs - not really time to do much albeit Vaughan is just an embarrassment. Would definitely keep tabs on Omochere and Lawal - Evans 6? He was the best player on the pitch. Missed a one on one right on half time - if that had been Collins there would have been a meltdown. Most corners hit the first defender. He did put in a shift to be fair and the home commentator said he was playing like Cantona midway through the second half. |
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 13, 2024 17:18:30 GMT
Hmmm, shame. It’s good to hear other people’s views and ideas of the game, all I seem to get back is Joey B comments, as I’ve said above I understand why he was sacked, we’ve moved on from that but right now I cannot see how Taylor has upgraded our side. I hope he does recruit well in the summer and the Gas can do well as that’s what we all want. How can he upgrade the side in one window when JB and Jennings blew the budget on the bunch of crocks and Grandads? You get the JB comments back at you because you are having a go at MT everytime we lose or draw and making the comparisons with JB. We have to learn to be tight at the back because we cannot rely on scoring one more than the opposition even more so now we dont have Collins and LT is injured and Javani, who only makes the odd contribution every 10 games, means that we'll lose more than we will win/draw. Losing Collins and LT means we have lost all of our pace and attacking threat that makes teams think and double mark leaving space for the likes of Evans to get into the pockets of holes in attacking play which then gives Martin time to get into space. MT has come into a midtable squad full of poor squad players and fragile players that cant play 20 games a season or more and that is the fault of Jennings and JB not MT. Players like Wilson, Hunt, Ward, Gordon and Hoole will hopefully be on their way at the end of the season and we can sign some quality that can actually last more than half a season to replace them and the signings of Conteh and Baggot show the type of player we will be after. Let me put it another way, all of JBs summer signings bar Martin and Vale are either not good enough (Cox, Crama, Brown, Woods, Bogarde), Retired (Friend) or broken (LT, Wilson, Hunt, Taylor). What is it you're expecting MT to do in 4 months and 1 window with this bunch? Sorry, are you saying Luke Thomas isn’t good enough and Connor Taylor? I have used Graham coughlan as an example as I have DC so it’s not about Barton at all… Barton has gone.. and I understand why, let’s move on mate. If you read my previous comments you will see. Yeah, I can’t say I’m raving over Taylor but he needs time and the first 10 games of next season will show what he is about 👍 |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 13, 2024 18:51:16 GMT
Hmmm, shame. It’s good to hear other people’s views and ideas of the game, all I seem to get back is Joey B comments, as I’ve said above I understand why he was sacked, we’ve moved on from that but right now I cannot see how Taylor has upgraded our side. I hope he does recruit well in the summer and the Gas can do well as that’s what we all want. How can he upgrade the side in one window when JB and Jennings blew the budget on the bunch of crocks and Grandads? You get the JB comments back at you because you are having a go at MT everytime we lose or draw and making the comparisons with JB. We have to learn to be tight at the back because we cannot rely on scoring one more than the opposition even more so now we dont have Collins and LT is injured and Javani, who only makes the odd contribution every 10 games, means that we'll lose more than we will win/draw. Losing Collins and LT means we have lost all of our pace and attacking threat that makes teams think and double mark leaving space for the likes of Evans to get into the pockets of holes in attacking play which then gives Martin time to get into space. MT has come into a midtable squad full of poor squad players and fragile players that cant play 20 games a season or more and that is the fault of Jennings and JB not MT. Players like Wilson, Hunt, Ward, Gordon and Hoole will hopefully be on their way at the end of the season and we can sign some quality that can actually last more than half a season to replace them and the signings of Conteh and Baggot show the type of player we will be after. Let me put it another way, all of JBs summer signings bar Martin and Vale are either not good enough (Cox, Crama, Brown, Woods, Bogarde), Retired (Friend) or broken (LT, Wilson, Hunt, Taylor). What is it you're expecting MT to do in 4 months and 1 window with this bunch? LT never had hamstring issues in the past, perhaps something we're doing as a club is causing that issue? Wilson is not presently "broken" he's simply suspended, no idea what's wrong with Taylor, although like LT I can't recall you suggesting that he was a bad signing at the time, perhaps you meant LM, but the same applies to him anyway. For the 4 signings MT made in January BA's lasted shorter than any of JB's signings and Vaughan's hardly looking like being the next LT or EA. MT seems a decent manager but expecting to come up with far fitter players is expecting a bit much as for some reason we can never seem to attract that type of players unless we pay big transfer fees like we did for Conteh. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2024 20:01:27 GMT
And the other hater, here he is as well, desperate for us to do bad so they can get onto the manager, your hero has gone! What are you on about? Hero has gone? Joey B had to go… simple as that, nothing wrong with wanting a manager with some fight in them. DC showing it with Cheltenham, cotterill doing it with forest Green. One thing you have to accept in life is people will have differences of opinions so maybe put the tampon away 👍. Quite incredible Mods, I’m sure HGT would appreciate his final comment as well, shame on who liked his comment as well 👍 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2024 20:14:39 GMT
As for some of comments on here about Cogs ball now, we have some really strange opinions.
We have the 10th worst defence in the league out of 24 sides, the same one that let in 4 at Burton with 69% possession and got the manager the sack who was averaging 1.09 PPG…………we had people on here saying we were in for a relegation battle, can’t be be excused for making us hard to beat and stabilising us this season?
I was one of 1200 at Portman Road for Cogs last win, we went 3rd that day and the celebrations at the end were brilliant. Yeovil, Burton, Scunny, have all been to the Championship since Jerry took us there in 1990. Ainsworth took small old Wycombe up playing a percentage based football which MT isn’t but me Cogs football, a chance of 4 years parachute payments from the Championship any day. I’ve seen some of the best football ever under Ollie, we’ve Barton and his possession game, we have fans who want champagne on beer money and then we can’t even pour the stuff into a glass when we get some!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2024 20:20:46 GMT
Made us hard to beat inheriting a leaky defence, some not willing to give him a chance to produce his own squad and brand of football.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 13, 2024 21:01:47 GMT
As for some of comments on here about Cogs ball now, we have some really strange opinions. We have the 10th worst defence in the league out of 24 sides, the same one that let in 4 at Burton with 69% possession and got the manager the sack who was averaging 1.09 PPG…………we had people on here saying we were in for a relegation battle, can’t be be excused for making us hard to beat and stabilising us this season? I was one of 1200 at Portman Road for Cogs last win, we went 3rd that day and the celebrations at the end were brilliant. Yeovil, Burton, Scunny, have all been to the Championship since Jerry took us there in 1990. Ainsworth took small old Wycombe up playing a percentage based football which MT isn’t but me Cogs football, a chance of 4 years parachute payments from the Championship any day. I’ve seen some of the best football ever under Ollie, we’ve Barton and his possession game, we have fans who want champagne on beer money and then we can’t even pour the stuff into a glass when we get some! Problem is Gasheads voted with their feet and failed to support the PE teacher, whether you like JB or not his style of football in L2 & his first season in L1 attracted the fans back, I'm not really sure why it has to be GC type football or JB's possession type football, surely there's a middle ground of being hard to beat but playing reasonably attractive football, which Exeter seemed to play under MT. It'll be interesting to see what style we play at Lincoln as I can't see playing 9 men behind the ball will work on Saturday. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2024 21:11:14 GMT
Some understand football, some just see it two ways, hoof ball or passing football.
MT is very much like DC in his style, it’s a similar version to which Moyes played at Everton with no money and now at West Ham. A proper mix of percentage football, passing, strong full backs, happy to get the diagonals in early. All three of these managers have never played a possession based football game like Garner did and Barton and failed spectacularly this season at the likes of Burton.
Trolls also got the ball early into Lambert and Walker, this was lot of time on the floor feeding off them and DC with Ellis and Gaffeny. You watch the top possession sides, Arsenal don’t even use a striker at times, City never did last season.
Bristol Rovers don’t ever have the budget in Div1 to assemble a side like Derby who can go back to front, press and pass the ball constantly.
In my opinion MT is the perfect fit for us just as Moyes was for Everton.
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Post by oliverhelmet on Mar 13, 2024 21:12:57 GMT
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 13, 2024 21:43:00 GMT
Some understand football, some just see it two ways, hoof ball or passing football. MT is very much like DC in his style, it’s a similar version to which Moyes played at Everton with no money and now at West Ham. A proper mix of percentage football, passing, strong full backs, happy to get the diagonals in early. All three of these managers have never played a possession based football game like Garner did and Barton and failed spectacularly this season at the likes of Burton. Trolls also got the ball early into Lambert and Walker, this was lot of time on the floor feeding off them and DC with Ellis and Gaffeny. You watch the top possession sides, Arsenal don’t even use a striker at times, City never did last season. Bristol Rovers don’t ever have the budget in Div1 to assemble a side like Derby who can go back to front, press and pass the ball constantly. In my opinion MT is the perfect fit for us just as Moyes was for Everton. Are you MT's Gashead mate he referred to in a recent interview, as your continued praising of him is a bit strange. I can't see any similarities with DC, they really are like chalk and cheese. As far as strong full backs, that falls at the first hurdle when they are Gordon & Grant on the one wing and Hoole & Hunt, when he's ever fit, on the other. |
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 13, 2024 22:16:23 GMT
Some understand football, some just see it two ways, hoof ball or passing football. MT is very much like DC in his style, it’s a similar version to which Moyes played at Everton with no money and now at West Ham. A proper mix of percentage football, passing, strong full backs, happy to get the diagonals in early. All three of these managers have never played a possession based football game like Garner did and Barton and failed spectacularly this season at the likes of Burton. Trolls also got the ball early into Lambert and Walker, this was lot of time on the floor feeding off them and DC with Ellis and Gaffeny. You watch the top possession sides, Arsenal don’t even use a striker at times, City never did last season. Bristol Rovers don’t ever have the budget in Div1 to assemble a side like Derby who can go back to front, press and pass the ball constantly. In my opinion MT is the perfect fit for us just as Moyes was for Everton. Are you MT's Gashead mate he referred to in a recent interview, as your continued praising of him is a bit strange. I can't see any similarities with DC, they really are like chalk and cheese. As far as strong full backs, that falls at the first hurdle when they are Gordon & Grant on the one wing and Hoole & Hunt, when he's ever fit, on the other. Yeah, I mean I often look at Matty Taylor and think how lucky we are to have a manager who is compared to David Moyes, not only that but a manager who has managed Manchester United, Everton and West Ham. This is hilarious! Stay off the ciders mate! |
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 13, 2024 22:37:21 GMT
How can he upgrade the side in one window when JB and Jennings blew the budget on the bunch of crocks and Grandads? You get the JB comments back at you because you are having a go at MT everytime we lose or draw and making the comparisons with JB. We have to learn to be tight at the back because we cannot rely on scoring one more than the opposition even more so now we dont have Collins and LT is injured and Javani, who only makes the odd contribution every 10 games, means that we'll lose more than we will win/draw. Losing Collins and LT means we have lost all of our pace and attacking threat that makes teams think and double mark leaving space for the likes of Evans to get into the pockets of holes in attacking play which then gives Martin time to get into space. MT has come into a midtable squad full of poor squad players and fragile players that cant play 20 games a season or more and that is the fault of Jennings and JB not MT. Players like Wilson, Hunt, Ward, Gordon and Hoole will hopefully be on their way at the end of the season and we can sign some quality that can actually last more than half a season to replace them and the signings of Conteh and Baggot show the type of player we will be after. Let me put it another way, all of JBs summer signings bar Martin and Vale are either not good enough (Cox, Crama, Brown, Woods, Bogarde), Retired (Friend) or broken (LT, Wilson, Hunt, Taylor). What is it you're expecting MT to do in 4 months and 1 window with this bunch? Sorry, are you saying Luke Thomas isn’t good enough and Connor Taylor? I have used Graham coughlan as an example as I have DC so it’s not about Barton at all… Barton has gone.. and I understand why, let’s move on mate. If you read my previous comments you will see. Yeah, I can’t say I’m raving over Taylor but he needs time and the first 10 games of next season will show what he is about 👍 I'm not saying that at all, you have misread my post. I'm saying look at the summer signings and all bar 2 are either injured or not good enough. I sought to clarify who was in which camp by the brackets. |
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 13, 2024 22:46:17 GMT
Sorry, are you saying Luke Thomas isn’t good enough and Connor Taylor? I have used Graham coughlan as an example as I have DC so it’s not about Barton at all… Barton has gone.. and I understand why, let’s move on mate. If you read my previous comments you will see. Yeah, I can’t say I’m raving over Taylor but he needs time and the first 10 games of next season will show what he is about 👍 I'm not saying that at all, you have misread my post. I'm saying look at the summer signings and all bar 2 are either injured or not good enough. I sought to clarify who was in which camp by the brackets. My mistake. apologies. UTG 🔵⚪️ |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 14, 2024 5:24:23 GMT
As for some of comments on here about Cogs ball now, we have some really strange opinions. We have the 10th worst defence in the league out of 24 sides, the same one that let in 4 at Burton with 69% possession and got the manager the sack who was averaging 1.09 PPG…………we had people on here saying we were in for a relegation battle, can’t be be excused for making us hard to beat and stabilising us this season? I was one of 1200 at Portman Road for Cogs last win, we went 3rd that day and the celebrations at the end were brilliant. Yeovil, Burton, Scunny, have all been to the Championship since Jerry took us there in 1990. Ainsworth took small old Wycombe up playing a percentage based football which MT isn’t but me Cogs football, a chance of 4 years parachute payments from the Championship any day. I’ve seen some of the best football ever under Ollie, we’ve Barton and his possession game, we have fans who want champagne on beer money and then we can’t even pour the stuff into a glass when we get some! That's a very decent post. Especially last paragraph. I said at the time, BG appointment put us back 5 years....this is the 5th year. Carlts probably disagrees still (?) I don't hold out much hope we'll be second in the table at any point in December, like we were in 2019. I was there at Ipsh!t, it was exactly as you say with one thing extra...we had belief. If we had continued with GC I am sure we would have held on to be in contention for promotion, and then we would've seen what the foot voters would've done.. I don't see it yet with MT. Not to say it won't happen. |
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Post by wallywalters on Mar 14, 2024 7:43:36 GMT
The difference here is coughlan had an absolutely shocking side to work with and jch carried that team.
Taylor has some very good footballers to work with here so there is no excuse for the dire football we have played so far under him.
Did Barton have to go? Yes he did but the team was so much better to watch than it is now win or lose. Il give Taylor the benefit of the doubt though and see how we look with his team after the summer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2024 7:46:49 GMT
Are you MT's Gashead mate he referred to in a recent interview, as your continued praising of him is a bit strange. I can't see any similarities with DC, they really are like chalk and cheese. As far as strong full backs, that falls at the first hurdle when they are Gordon & Grant on the one wing and Hoole & Hunt, when he's ever fit, on the other. Yeah, I mean I often look at Matty Taylor and think how lucky we are to have a manager who is compared to David Moyes, not only that but a manager who has managed Manchester United, Everton and West Ham. This is hilarious! Stay off the ciders mate! Tampons and ciders, we’ve got a proper 💩🏠 on our hands here. I bet you’ve never done a coaching course or ever spoken to a person with any knowledge of the game, professional in it. We all make comparisons in life, with your limited knowledge, I was trying to give you an example of a manager who overachieves with a lack of money and like some managers, with money he struggles. The only manager at Everton to take them for the CL, won a trophy at West Ham, their first since 1980. Now like DC, given money, Payne, Nichols, Mensah, same at United. I am pleased we spent £300k on Conteh, I do have my reservations with MT with money, he never had any at Exeter. To help you, another example of MT lower league would Chris Wilder. Promotions at Oxford and Northampton with no money, Oxford fans never liked his MT style, they regret it today, I live up here. Wilder took the Blades from Div1, let’s see if Matt can get a bigger club after us, I hope he does, he will have some something right here. Drop me a PM, always happy to give you some sound insight, not just my own, stuff I have been told by experts in some cases. |
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