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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 30, 2024 5:26:50 GMT
I'd seriously be looking at bringing Darrell clarke back to the club especially now wael doesn't have a say in it So we can then call him "clueless" this time next year when it doesn't work out for him? |
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Post by gasaholic on Mar 30, 2024 6:01:59 GMT
You know that your in big trouble when the opposition striker can walk the ball into the net even though he had a defender either side of him.
Our manager ( I use that term with reluctance) doesnt seem to have any leadership skills at all.
Time for Mr Talor to admit that managing BRFC are way beyond his skill set and should resign as a matter of principle.
Honour is a gift a man gives to himself, I didnt see much of that yesterday.
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Post by daniel300380 on Mar 30, 2024 7:33:47 GMT
What DC is doing at Cheltenham I have no idea. JB still out of work. I’d give them both a ring, see who wants to come back. How did they both do in their first seasons, with somebody else's squad??? They both took us down and we're both awful!! Some people have short memories🤣 A manager needs time, you can't judge them when they have nothing to play for, have someone else's squad and have injuries that leave us with a lack of pace and energy. If judged Barton and DC at this stage, both would have been gone and both did worse then Taylor at the start. Barton did worse at the end of last season and it was his squad and DC took us to non league for the first time ever! |
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Post by gasify on Mar 30, 2024 7:48:11 GMT
It is always a little unfair to judge a manager when he is working with someone else’s players. It seems to me like we have a bunch of players who don’t care about the club because most of them won’t be here next season. They are picking up a wage and waiting for their agents to get them a new club for next season. That being said, a manager’s job is to motivate his players and organise a side that can get results. We have a team who look completely unorganised and disengaged. I think MT will get pre-season and a chance to shape the squad in a way he wants but I think he’s swimming upstream now. It seems that a lot of the fanbase don’t have faith in him and that’s a very difficult position to come back from. Alot of the fans have never had any faith in him, for reasons that have been discussed over and over. When you break up with someone you love, there tends to be a 'transitional(s)' before you find someone you can trust and love again. Maybe 'Taylor' is that transitional for some. What I am struggling to understand is how he is being judged by some in a different way to three year ago. Why did one manager get "It's not his players, so cannot do anything" but another manager doesn't get that same treatment. It seems like the narrative is being made up as they go along. Starting another thread, going over the same ground, isn't helpful. As a fan base, we need to unite. This thread will just divide opinions and will end in the same waybas all the other threads around this subject. |
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Post by pucklegas on Mar 30, 2024 7:51:57 GMT
We cannot keep replacing managers like Watford do, and Rob Edwards proves you sometimes need to give them time.
When he s sent the team out, it's not his fault that the players yesterday were awful.
Let's judge him with his own players, he quickly identified we have no pace up front, let's discuss this again in December.
This is a huge pre season for us, but one George Friend should be relishing, so many signings to make, and a lot on decent wages will be gone.
I hope we are prepared for this, most know their fate I would expect, that's why these performances keep cropping up.
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Post by gasaholic on Mar 30, 2024 8:06:37 GMT
We cannot keep replacing managers like Watford do, and Rob Edwards proves you sometimes need to give them time. When he s sent the team out, it's not his fault that the players yesterday were awful. Let's judge him with his own players, he quickly identified we have no pace up front, let's discuss this again in December. This is a huge pre season for us, but one George Friend should be relishing, so many signings to make, and a lot on decent wages will be gone. I hope we are prepared for this, most know their fate I would expect, that's why these performances keep cropping up. The players we have are well capable of getting promoted, matchs early in in his reign, like at Bolton where we were superb. So if the players ARE good enough then you have to question the managers capability to lead them |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2024 8:18:41 GMT
I don’t think MT is clueless - far from it.
I think the problem we have is threefold
The Scouse Group Tumour in the dressing room .. influential, whining and only worried about their next contract.
Until that tumour is cut out or massively reduced the dressing room and training ground will continue to be toxic.
Throw in the likes of ‘Don’t blame me Wilson’ ..and some truly crap loanees who won’t be here in a months time and it must seriously be tough to influence this group.
The water taking permanently afflicted are also dragging everyone down … Simply have to be ruthless this summer and get rid.
This summer my priority would be exiting … All the out of contracts, the injury prone wage stealers and all Scouse , Finley, Connolly, Rossiter and a few of the whisperers in the back room, including Evans if he truly does have his agent touting him around.
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Post by gasify on Mar 30, 2024 8:42:58 GMT
We cannot keep replacing managers like Watford do, and Rob Edwards proves you sometimes need to give them time. When he s sent the team out, it's not his fault that the players yesterday were awful. Let's judge him with his own players, he quickly identified we have no pace up front, let's discuss this again in December. This is a huge pre season for us, but one George Friend should be relishing, so many signings to make, and a lot on decent wages will be gone. I hope we are prepared for this, most know their fate I would expect, that's why these performances keep cropping up. The players we have are well capable of getting promoted, matchs early in in his reign, like at Bolton where we were superb. So if the players ARE good enough then you have to question the managers capability to lead them Two managers have proved that this team is not good enough for promotion. I think you have to question the players. Players should be turning up to training with motivation and turning up to games with motivation. |
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Post by singupgas on Mar 30, 2024 8:46:29 GMT
I don’t think MT is clueless - far from it. I think the problem we have is threefold The Scouse Group Tumour in the dressing room .. influential, whining and only worried about their next contract. Until that tumour is cut out or massively reduced the dressing room and training ground will continue to be toxic. Throw in the likes of ‘Don’t blame me Wilson’ ..and some truly crap loanees who won’t be here in a months time and it must seriously be tough to influence this group. The water taking permanently afflicted are also dragging everyone down … Simply have to be ruthless this summer and get rid. This summer my priority would be exiting … All the out of contracts, the injury prone wage stealers and all Scouse , Finley, Connolly, Rossiter and a few of the whisperers in the back room, including Evans if he truly does have his agent touting him around. Don't like the anti Scouse thing. I wouldn't be surprised that there are clubs interested in Evans anyway. Connolly is a young lad, I can imagine bit annoyed after being brought back from a Morecambe where he was playing every week. Finley understand wants to move back up north, so let him go. I like him, but if he down want to be here now then that's fine. The squad does need to be freshened up, hopefully MT and GF have the contacts to find the players we need to compete at the top of league 1. |
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Post by mftc on Mar 30, 2024 8:55:29 GMT
Isn't this very similar to JBs first season? They couldn't win for toffee.
He was allowed time and very good money for that level in his first summer to turn it around.
It seems Taylor will get a lot less money but he will fall on his sword (or hopefully not) based on his and Friends recruitment.
My only hope is to avoid relegation next season as it will be a strong division.
I see it as similar to 87/88 and hope that some of the new signings can become legends like Big Dev, Martyn and Reecey and I the next few years a well balanced, organised side with grit and determination can improve and get us nearer the top.
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Post by alasitsgas on Mar 30, 2024 8:56:17 GMT
Don't want another clear out, so as to lose the first ten matches so they can say it takes time jell again.
But do see in my lifetime another Rotherham forming, catch my drift.
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Post by fatherbrown on Mar 30, 2024 8:56:31 GMT
What DC is doing at Cheltenham I have no idea. JB still out of work. I’d give them both a ring, see who wants to come back. I'd rather defacate on my hands and clap than have JB back as manager. Has your fan broke? UTG. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2024 8:58:38 GMT
I don’t think MT is clueless - far from it. I think the problem we have is threefold The Scouse Group Tumour in the dressing room .. influential, whining and only worried about their next contract. Until that tumour is cut out or massively reduced the dressing room and training ground will continue to be toxic. Throw in the likes of ‘Don’t blame me Wilson’ ..and some truly crap loanees who won’t be here in a months time and it must seriously be tough to influence this group. The water taking permanently afflicted are also dragging everyone down … Simply have to be ruthless this summer and get rid. This summer my priority would be exiting … All the out of contracts, the injury prone wage stealers and all Scouse , Finley, Connolly, Rossiter and a few of the whisperers in the back room, including Evans if he truly does have his agent touting him around. Don't like the anti Scouse thing. I wouldn't be surprised that there are clubs interested in Evans anyway. Connolly is a young lad, I can imagine bit annoyed after being brought back from a Morecambe where he was playing every week. Finley understand wants to move back up north, so let him go. I like him, but if he down want to be here now then that's fine. The squad does need to be freshened up, hopefully MT and GF have the contacts to find the players we need to compete at the top of league 1. Also don't get this anti scouse thing. Only two in the team apart from Rossiter regularly playing?both have been captains for the side over the season under three managers and Evans one of the players who is always available. Bit disrespectful to two players who got us promoted out of the despair division.think we will miss both of them next season if not here |
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Post by fatherbrown on Mar 30, 2024 9:01:33 GMT
I don’t think MT is clueless - far from it. I think the problem we have is threefold The Scouse Group Tumour in the dressing room .. influential, whining and only worried about their next contract. Until that tumour is cut out or massively reduced the dressing room and training ground will continue to be toxic. Throw in the likes of ‘Don’t blame me Wilson’ ..and some truly crap loanees who won’t be here in a months time and it must seriously be tough to influence this group. The water taking permanently afflicted are also dragging everyone down … Simply have to be ruthless this summer and get rid. This summer my priority would be exiting … All the out of contracts, the injury prone wage stealers and all Scouse , Finley, Connolly, Rossiter and a few of the whisperers in the back room, including Evans if he truly does have his agent touting him around. Interesting you mentioned Evans, I never given it a thought that he looking elsewhere, but I did think it strange when he was subbed yesterday he walked straight off without the normal hug/pat on the back from the manager. |
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Mar 30, 2024 9:23:54 GMT
We've had big end of season squad changes before especially the year we dropped into the conference but I'm not sure I can ever remember this much uncertainty going into a summer.
Realistically how many players are guaranteed to be here come Aug, even those under contract could potentially be moved on especially the ones that haven't featured much whether that's due to injury or selection.
Off the top of my head bar J Ward & Thomas there are probably question marks over everyone else. Obviously there will be others who stay but this level of uncertainty can't be helpful. It still doesn't excuse the dross we've seen recently though !!
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Post by gasify on Mar 30, 2024 10:03:41 GMT
We've had big end of season squad changes before especially the year we dropped into the conference but I'm not sure I can ever remember this much uncertainty going into a summer. Realistically how many players are guaranteed to be here come Aug, even those under contract could potentially be moved on especially the ones that haven't featured much whether that's due to injury or selection. Off the top of my head bar J Ward & Thomas there are probably question marks over everyone else. Obviously there will be others who stay but this level of uncertainty can't be helpful. It still doesn't excuse the dross we've seen recently though !! They need to watch this interview with Chris Martin: "It doesn't change if you have 5 years on your contract or 5 days on your contract, perform day in and out in training. Perform on a match day". I loved that he said that then. I think it's even more important now to be reminded what a professional does. |
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Mar 30, 2024 10:08:44 GMT
We've had big end of season squad changes before especially the year we dropped into the conference but I'm not sure I can ever remember this much uncertainty going into a summer. Realistically how many players are guaranteed to be here come Aug, even those under contract could potentially be moved on especially the ones that haven't featured much whether that's due to injury or selection. Off the top of my head bar J Ward & Thomas there are probably question marks over everyone else. Obviously there will be others who stay but this level of uncertainty can't be helpful. It still doesn't excuse the dross we've seen recently though !! They need to watch this interview with Chris Martin: "It doesn't change if you have 5 years on your contract or 5 days on your contract, perform day in and out in training. Perform on a match day". I loved that he said that then. I think it's even more important now to be reminded what a professional does. I'd forgotten about that interview, spot on |
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Post by eric on Mar 30, 2024 10:09:30 GMT
I don’t think MT is clueless - far from it. I think the problem we have is threefold The Scouse Group Tumour in the dressing room .. influential, whining and only worried about their next contract. Until that tumour is cut out or massively reduced the dressing room and training ground will continue to be toxic. Throw in the likes of ‘Don’t blame me Wilson’ ..and some truly crap loanees who won’t be here in a months time and it must seriously be tough to influence this group. The water taking permanently afflicted are also dragging everyone down … Simply have to be ruthless this summer and get rid. This summer my priority would be exiting … All the out of contracts, the injury prone wage stealers and all Scouse , Finley, Connolly, Rossiter and a few of the whisperers in the back room, including Evans if he truly does have his agent touting him around. Interesting you mentioned Evans, I never given it a thought that he looking elsewhere, but I did think it strange when he was subbed yesterday he walked straight off without the normal hug/pat on the back from the manager. Probably nothing more than social media BS that has become Gaschat fact. |
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Post by eric on Mar 30, 2024 10:13:54 GMT
I don’t think MT is clueless - far from it. I think the problem we have is threefold The Scouse Group Tumour in the dressing room .. influential, whining and only worried about their next contract. Until that tumour is cut out or massively reduced the dressing room and training ground will continue to be toxic. Throw in the likes of ‘Don’t blame me Wilson’ ..and some truly crap loanees who won’t be here in a months time and it must seriously be tough to influence this group. The water taking permanently afflicted are also dragging everyone down … Simply have to be ruthless this summer and get rid. This summer my priority would be exiting … All the out of contracts, the injury prone wage stealers and all Scouse , Finley, Connolly, Rossiter and a few of the whisperers in the back room, including Evans if he truly does have his agent touting him around. Don't like the anti Scouse thing. I wouldn't be surprised that there are clubs interested in Evans anyway. Connolly is a young lad, I can imagine bit annoyed after being brought back from a Morecambe where he was playing every week. Finley understand wants to move back up north, so let him go. I like him, but if he down want to be here now then that's fine. The squad does need to be freshened up, hopefully MT and GF have the contacts to find the players we need to compete at the top of league 1. Lazy generalisations being made about the scousers in the squad. Hasn’t MT recently spoken about Rossiter’s professionalism and how he’s a joy to work with? Yet he’s being talked of as a “tumour” in the dressing room. Just bizarre. |
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Post by yattongas on Mar 30, 2024 10:14:22 GMT
Don't like the anti Scouse thing. I wouldn't be surprised that there are clubs interested in Evans anyway. Connolly is a young lad, I can imagine bit annoyed after being brought back from a Morecambe where he was playing every week. Finley understand wants to move back up north, so let him go. I like him, but if he down want to be here now then that's fine. The squad does need to be freshened up, hopefully MT and GF have the contacts to find the players we need to compete at the top of league 1. Also don't get this anti scouse thing. Only two in the team apart from Rossiter regularly playing?both have been captains for the side over the season under three managers and Evans one of the players who is always available. Bit disrespectful to two players who got us promoted out of the despair division.think we will miss both of them next season if not here It’s quite shameful when you think about it . Nobody has any evidence and are just concocting their own narratives . A few defeats really does set the odd bald & quacks off doesn’t it ?! 🙄😂 |
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