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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 30, 2024 17:23:30 GMT
This smells like the Dave Penny situation back in 2010 when players downed tools and we all know what happened there What pieces of evidence has brought you to that conclusion? The last two away performances are surely proof of that? We didn't even manage a shot on target yesterday against a team who had only won once in the last 10, or was it 14, games. |
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Post by gasify on Mar 30, 2024 17:30:33 GMT
What pieces of evidence has brought you to that conclusion? We didn't even manage a shot on target yesterday against a team who had only won once in the last 10, or was it 14, games. I think that is a leap to go from two bad away performances, one where we created lots of chances but couldn't score and the other where we made two massive mistakes. I invite you to read some of the comments from the Mangan era. I also invite you to look back at previous posts where mistakes by players in key areas of the park has been happening all season. I also invite you to look at the Exeter at home matchday thread where posters talked about losing the dressing room. Next game we beat Oxford 3-1. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 30, 2024 19:00:49 GMT
The last two away performances are surely proof of that? We didn't even manage a shot on target yesterday against a team who had only won once in the last 10, or was it 14, games. I think that is a leap to go from two bad away performances, one where we created lots of chances but couldn't score and the other where we made two massive mistakes. I invite you to read some of the comments from the Mangan era. I also invite you to look back at previous posts where mistakes by players in key areas of the park has been happening all season. I also invite you to look at the Exeter at home matchday thread where posters talked about losing the dressing room. Next game we beat Oxford 3-1. Let's see what happens on Monday, hopefully they'll turn up at the Mem, if not we might as well all give up as well. I'm not sure you can compare yesterday's non show with anything under AM's tenure, we were lucky we were playing PV and not one of the top 10 sides or it would have been another hammering, if MT hasn't loss the changing room then he must a god damn awful manager given he had a virtually full squad to pick from yesterday. |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Mar 30, 2024 19:20:15 GMT
Taylor hasn't fired me up yet, however, I think it's only fair to give him the opportunity to bring his own players in - the jury is out at the moment.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 30, 2024 19:36:14 GMT
Give the guy a chance.
The players are on the beach. Nothing to play for, for months on end now.
What we’re seeing is the opposite of a preseason. The players are winding down thinking about their summer holidays and where they’re going to play next. Completely lost interest.
Can’t blame MT at all for that. Can only blame the players.
They were good for getting us promoted. But now the time has come to build the next squad to have a bloody good go at getting out of the division. If people don’t want to be here let them go.
I don’t think we really have anyone who we’d be screwed if they left. If we got money for Evans I think that would be a good result. He’s a good L1 midfielder but he ain’t championship material. Often goes missing and there’s a lot of short memories for how he played last season.
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Post by clockendgas on Mar 30, 2024 19:37:03 GMT
Well if these players are playing for Taylor and the shirt,then I'd hate to see a team who had given up.
I started watching the highlights but stopped after a minute as my blood pressure was rising at the half hearted effort from professional footballer,embarrassing.
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Post by toggsy2 on Mar 30, 2024 19:43:49 GMT
JB,DC and Mangan are not the answer a fresh approach is needed I would be looking at trying to tempt Paul Cook away from Chesterfield or even Maher from Southend
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Post by yategasman on Mar 30, 2024 20:53:10 GMT
Well said sir
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 30, 2024 21:10:14 GMT
Give the guy a chance. The players are on the beach. Nothing to play for, for months on end now. What we’re seeing is the opposite of a preseason. The players are winding down thinking about their summer holidays and where they’re going to play next. Completely lost interest. Can’t blame MT at all for that. Can only blame the players.
They were good for getting us promoted. But now the time has come to build the next squad to have a bloody good go at getting out of the division. If people don’t want to be here let them go. I don’t think we really have anyone who we’d be screwed if they left. If we got money for Evans I think that would be a good result. He’s a good L1 midfielder but he ain’t championship material. Often goes missing and there’s a lot of short memories for how he played last season. Haven't most of that squad already departed? If it's not the manager's job to motivate the players then who's job is it? The worry as to be that similar things seems to have happened at Rotherham and he was never able to turn things around. There must be around 10 clubs in L1 with nothing to play from Shrewsbury to Orient but they are still grinding out results. |
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Post by returngas on Mar 30, 2024 21:52:23 GMT
And to think we were inches away from JCH uptop Collins and Thomas on the wings with Evans in the 10 😢 Mouth watering front 4 with everyone on form! Collins would probably have stayed last January if that happend also. No we wouldn't as he made it clear he wanted out and would have gone in the summer if a higher offer had come in. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 31, 2024 0:19:22 GMT
Give the guy a chance. The players are on the beach. Nothing to play for, for months on end now. What we’re seeing is the opposite of a preseason. The players are winding down thinking about their summer holidays and where they’re going to play next. Completely lost interest. Can’t blame MT at all for that. Can only blame the players.
They were good for getting us promoted. But now the time has come to build the next squad to have a bloody good go at getting out of the division. If people don’t want to be here let them go. I don’t think we really have anyone who we’d be screwed if they left. If we got money for Evans I think that would be a good result. He’s a good L1 midfielder but he ain’t championship material. Often goes missing and there’s a lot of short memories for how he played last season. Haven't most of that squad already departed? If it's not the manager's job to motivate the players then whose job is it? The worry as to be that similar things seems to have happened at Rotherham and he was never able to turn things around. There must be around 10 clubs in L1 with nothing to play from Shrewsbury to Orient but they are still grinding out results. Evans Finley Taylor Thomas Rossiter (for what that’s worth) Connolly Hoole Grant Some may have left then came back, some may have been injured but there’s still a fair few left and quite a few who still get game time. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 31, 2024 6:24:41 GMT
Haven't most of that squad already departed? If it's not the manager's job to motivate the players then whose job is it? The worry as to be that similar things seems to have happened at Rotherham and he was never able to turn things around. There must be around 10 clubs in L1 with nothing to play from Shrewsbury to Orient but they are still grinding out results. Evans Finley Taylor Thomas Rossiter (for what that’s worth) Connolly Hoole Grant Some may have left then came back, some may have been injured but there’s still a fair few left and quite a few who still get game time. Only Finley of that group can have any real influence as the rest are youngsters or never play anyway, and he's still MT's captain and usually starts most games. I can't see the likes of Evans, Taylor, Thomas and Connolly plus Hoole(?) all just leaving on free transfers. Can anybody trust GF/MT to bring in better if they did all depart in the summer? |
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Post by Gasshole on Mar 31, 2024 7:02:28 GMT
You really need the motivation of playing for something tangible….be that promotion , relegation fight, Play offs etc.
Many examples out there of really good teams who have turned to Poo the minute the prize is secured. Players generally aren’t like us ,It’s not enough just to play for the shirt. They need the extra motivation of meaningful points to empty the tanks.
He must be mindful though …we need to be entertained. That’s what sells tickets.Your few hundred hard core supporters who go to the likes of Port Vale and Fleetwood on a Tuesday night….they’re a done deal….fully committed. So you need to give your Home crowd something to fizz about….and convert some floaters into ST’s.
I will say though , these last matches are absolutely gold for MT. Free range to try things and a terrific opportunity to see which individuals can add value.
Try not to think of it is winning and losing…….it’s winning and learning.
Never forget after the Summer break most of us will be back for more….hopefully not more of the same.
UTG
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 31, 2024 7:13:24 GMT
There's around 10 teams in L1 from Shrewsbury to Orient with nothing really to play for but they all seem to be still getting results. Orient almost got a draw yesterday at Lincoln.
As far as trying things all we see is the same 4-5-1 formation every game with no obvious clues as to what MT's trying to achieve.
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Post by Gasshole on Mar 31, 2024 7:26:29 GMT
There's around 10 teams in L1 from Shrewsbury to Orient with nothing really to play for but they all seem to be still getting results. Orient almost got a draw yesterday at Lincoln. As far as trying things all we see is the same 4-5-1 formation every game with no obvious clues as to what MT's trying to achieve. If he doesn’t play 2 up front against Shrewsbury, I’ll drive him back to Rotherham 🤪. Death or glory …..we can’t defend but plenty will pay to watch a 5:4 defeat. They’re in our house …let’s get at them. |
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Post by exetergas on Mar 31, 2024 8:04:21 GMT
I don’t have any coaching badges but it seems pretty obvious to me that by playing Chris Martin up front on his own, his lack of mobility means we don’t play the in our opponents half. Thus we create very little and invite pressure.
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Post by gasify on Mar 31, 2024 8:42:19 GMT
Evans Finley Taylor Thomas Rossiter (for what that’s worth) Connolly Hoole Grant Some may have left then came back, some may have been injured but there’s still a fair few left and quite a few who still get game time. Only Finley of that group can have any real influence as the rest are youngsters or never play anyway, and he's still MT's captain and usually starts most games. I can't see the likes of Evans, Taylor, Thomas and Connolly plus Hoole(?) all just leaving on free transfers. Can anybody trust GF/MT to bring in better if they did all depart in the summer? I do. Based on the only permanent signing he has made since being at the club. What leads you to think he cannot be trusted to bring in better? |
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Post by gasify on Mar 31, 2024 8:43:29 GMT
There's around 10 teams in L1 from Shrewsbury to Orient with nothing really to play for but they all seem to be still getting results. Orient almost got a draw yesterday at Lincoln. As far as trying things all we see is the same 4-5-1 formation every game with no obvious clues as to what MT's trying to achieve. There was I thinking that he was trying to play three at the back. Dunno where I got that idea from. |
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Post by wertongas on Mar 31, 2024 8:48:33 GMT
You can't blame our poor team and performances all on Taylor. The recruitment last summer was poor, we did not sign more than one player between the age of 25 and thirty, which is when most players are at their playing career peak. Most of the signings were well past their best or inexperienced youngsters.
With the exception of Thomas and Taylor, Barton made some poor signings and now we are seeing the results of that.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 31, 2024 9:33:51 GMT
You can't blame our poor team and performances all on Taylor. The recruitment last summer was poor, we did not sign more than one player between the age of 25 and thirty, which is when most players are at their playing career peak. Most of the signings were well past their best or inexperienced youngsters. With the exception of Thomas and Taylor, Barton made some poor signings and now we are seeing the results of that. We had a transfer window to rectify that issue and brought in even more youngsters, which is apparently the way the co-owners want to go in the future. |
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