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Post by woolavingtonpirate on May 4, 2024 7:14:11 GMT
Don't begrudge the bloke a move, but when we sell our best players relegation normally follows. Collins and Evans were the two players who you could see wouldn't look out of place in the championship. Shows a total lack of ambition from the club. When we had new owners I thought great, finally we've got a better chance of hanging on to our best players and building around them. If we lose Evans as well I think we really will struggle next season We’ve offered him a new contract so not a lack of ambition. But if he doesn’t want to sign then we probably need to be brutal and sell. Peterborough would. If we can get Pompey and Bolton and more competing then a decent fee is possible. Re invest like we did with some of the Collins money in up and coming youngsters. Again like Peterborough You can't really compare us with Peterborough, they tend to hold on to players until it suits them to sell. It wouldn't surprise me if they came in for Evans. Last time we sold JCH and invested in youngsters we were easily relegated. Problem is quality youngsters cost money, alot more than we'll get for Evans, Peterborough pay huge fees for these players, much more than we're likely to pay. |
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Post by percy on May 4, 2024 7:20:58 GMT
We’ve offered him a new contract so not a lack of ambition. But if he doesn’t want to sign then we probably need to be brutal and sell. Peterborough would. If we can get Pompey and Bolton and more competing then a decent fee is possible. Re invest like we did with some of the Collins money in up and coming youngsters. Again like Peterborough You can't really compare us with Peterborough, they tend to hold on to players until it suits them to sell. It wouldn't surprise me if they came in for Evans. Last time we sold JCH and invested in youngsters we were easily relegated. Problem is quality youngsters cost money, alot more than we'll get for Evans, Peterborough pay huge fees for these players, much more than we're likely to pay. I’m not comparing us how we’ve been but how we should be. It’s a circle. Sell for more. Buy for more. Sell for more. Etc. Collins and Evans could be the start of this if done right. Conteh and 2 or 3 similar this summer would give me hope. |
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Post by gas2 on May 4, 2024 8:06:52 GMT
Dont give Taylor any of a possible transfer fee he will only buy rubbish players
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Post by popuppirate on May 4, 2024 8:12:41 GMT
Dont give Taylor any of a possible transfer fee he will only buy rubbish players Conteh isn't rubbish. |
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Post by WeAreTheGas on May 4, 2024 8:24:04 GMT
As much as I’ve loved watching him for us and he’d be huge shoes to fill, unless he’s gonna sign a new contract then we have to sell this window IMO.
You’d have to say it’d represent cracking business overall if we were to get a decent fee from Pompey. Sign on a free -> get 2/3 very good years from the player - sell on. Similar to Collins. Nothing wrong with that for a cash-strapped lower league club like ours.
Especially if the model going forwards is to sign younger players with potential and develop them. Those younger players are gonna want to see evidence that Bristol Rovers is a good stepping stone to a higher level.
Let’s see what happens. Hope he stays of course, but if he won’t put pen to paper here then we (literally) can’t afford to watch him walk out the door for free in 12 months.
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Post by onefindunford on May 4, 2024 8:25:27 GMT
Dont give Taylor any of a possible transfer fee he will only buy rubbish players How have you arrived at this conclusion? |
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Post by percy on May 4, 2024 8:44:04 GMT
Dont give Taylor any of a possible transfer fee he will only buy rubbish players Love this forum 🤣 |
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Post by Topper Gas on May 4, 2024 9:25:08 GMT
Dont give Taylor any of a possible transfer fee he will only buy rubbish players How have you arrived at this conclusion? If it was £1m of your own money would you give it to MT to spend in the transfer market? |
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Post by badengas on May 4, 2024 9:29:09 GMT
How have you arrived at this conclusion? If it was £1m of your own money would you give it to MT to spend in the transfer market? No, I'd go on a massive P!ss up and invite everyone on here to join me. |
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Post by yattongas on May 4, 2024 9:29:39 GMT
If it was £1m of your own money would you give it to MT to spend in the transfer market? No, I'd go on a massive P!ss up and invite everyone on here to join me. I’m in ! 🍻 |
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Post by onefindunford on May 4, 2024 9:41:10 GMT
How have you arrived at this conclusion? If it was £1m of your own money would you give it to MT to spend in the transfer market? What a strange question. The discussion is what to do with the potential Evans fee. Is there any evidence that Taylor would spend the fee on “rubbish players”. |
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Post by warwickgas on May 4, 2024 9:49:49 GMT
I would expect the owners to demand a recommendation from our DOF prior to sanctioning any transfer.
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on May 4, 2024 10:08:27 GMT
You can't really compare us with Peterborough, they tend to hold on to players until it suits them to sell. It wouldn't surprise me if they came in for Evans. Last time we sold JCH and invested in youngsters we were easily relegated. Problem is quality youngsters cost money, alot more than we'll get for Evans, Peterborough pay huge fees for these players, much more than we're likely to pay. I’m not comparing us how we’ve been but how we should be. It’s a circle. Sell for more. Buy for more. Sell for more. Etc. Collins and Evans could be the start of this if done right. Conteh and 2 or 3 similar this summer would give me hope. If we do sell Evans, then invest in young talent, then be prepared to accept relegation, because that's what happens. Evans has been involved in or scored around 20 goals this season, that straight away makes a massive hole in our team. We hardly scored with him anyway, but selling our goals out of the team = relegation. |
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Post by gasify on May 4, 2024 10:15:35 GMT
How have you arrived at this conclusion? If it was £1m of your own money would you give it to MT to spend in the transfer market? If I had employed him as manager and put the safety net of a director of football in place then yes. |
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Post by percy on May 4, 2024 10:15:59 GMT
I’m not comparing us how we’ve been but how we should be. It’s a circle. Sell for more. Buy for more. Sell for more. Etc. Collins and Evans could be the start of this if done right. Conteh and 2 or 3 similar this summer would give me hope. If we do sell Evans, then invest in young talent, then be prepared to accept relegation, because that's what happens. Evans has been involved in or scored around 20 goals this season, that straight away makes a massive hole in our team. We hardly scored with him anyway, but selling our goals out of the team = relegation. Get your money on it that. Sounds like a dead cert 👍 |
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Post by Quarters on May 4, 2024 10:16:09 GMT
I’m not comparing us how we’ve been but how we should be. It’s a circle. Sell for more. Buy for more. Sell for more. Etc. Collins and Evans could be the start of this if done right. Conteh and 2 or 3 similar this summer would give me hope. If we do sell Evans, then invest in young talent, then be prepared to accept relegation, because that's what happens. Evans has been involved in or scored around 20 goals this season, that straight away makes a massive hole in our team. We hardly scored with him anyway, but selling our goals out of the team = relegation. And at the end of next season when he can leave on a free what will you say then? |
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Post by mrgasman on May 4, 2024 10:24:45 GMT
Can’t stop him from playing in championship. Let him go. I wouldn’t blame him if he wanted to leave. Makes sense to cash in now than leaving on a free.
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Post by supergas on May 4, 2024 10:30:51 GMT
I’m not comparing us how we’ve been but how we should be. It’s a circle. Sell for more. Buy for more. Sell for more. Etc. Collins and Evans could be the start of this if done right. Conteh and 2 or 3 similar this summer would give me hope. If we do sell Evans, then invest in young talent, then be prepared to accept relegation, because that's what happens. Evans has been involved in or scored around 20 goals this season, that straight away makes a massive hole in our team. We hardly scored with him anyway, but selling our goals out of the team = relegation. As a club we averaged 1.13 goals per league game this season. Evans wasn't involved in nine games and in those we averaged 1.33 goals per game. So the stats suggest the hole is not as massive as you might think... Plus I don't get this thing about why young talent will automatically fail - other than some of our fans have seemingly already decided it will...none of the relegated teams had a particularly young squad this year - in fact the ten squads with the lowest average age in terms of minutes played had an average finishing position of tenth... |
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on May 4, 2024 11:50:05 GMT
If we do sell Evans, then invest in young talent, then be prepared to accept relegation, because that's what happens. Evans has been involved in or scored around 20 goals this season, that straight away makes a massive hole in our team. We hardly scored with him anyway, but selling our goals out of the team = relegation. And at the end of next season when he can leave on a free what will you say then? I would say thank you for keeping us in league 1 and giving us time to bed in a replacement before Evans leaves. Let him leave on a free, if he's got us halfway to safety surely that's better than the cost of relegation for a poxy fee of around 3 or 400k that we'll receive. Getting promising youngsters is all well and good if you have a structured approach whereby you have a conveyor of talent. Selling Evans and replacing with a youngster, putting all that pressure to fill his boots is a disaster waiting to happen. I'd never bet on the gas to be relegated, I don't gamble anyway but I was correct in predicting our relegation last time we spouted the same nonsense. I suppose fans have short memories? |
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on May 4, 2024 11:55:36 GMT
If we do sell Evans, then invest in young talent, then be prepared to accept relegation, because that's what happens. Evans has been involved in or scored around 20 goals this season, that straight away makes a massive hole in our team. We hardly scored with him anyway, but selling our goals out of the team = relegation. As a club we averaged 1.13 goals per league game this season. Evans wasn't involved in nine games and in those we averaged 1.33 goals per game. So the stats suggest the hole is not as massive as you might think... Plus I don't get this thing about why young talent will automatically fail - other than some of our fans have seemingly already decided it will...none of the relegated teams had a particularly young squad this year - in fact the ten squads with the lowest average age in terms of minutes played had an average finishing position of tenth... I don't think young talent will automatically fail, but we have a habit of making a total mess of it and often totally destroying youngsters confidence. You need a really good system, whereby young players are bedded in alongside experienced pros, not just chucked in at the deep end. IMO we need to keep Evans and bring in talent to learn from him so we have a player there ready to replace him. By the way I think getting young hungry players in is the way to go, but I have absolutely zero confidence in us getting in right. |
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