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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 10, 2024 9:25:51 GMT
This isn’t an upgrade for Wardy. All for bringing in an older keeper to give him some extra help but not seeing the point in potentially watering a keeper off by bringing in one who doesn’t seem to be any upgrade. We could get an older keeper or a younger keeper. The Gaschat fact is always that it is a replacement for Jed. What if its competition for Jed, what if having someone close to his age will spur him on to do even greater things? As I posted earlier in the thread why would Griffiths leave WBA in the Championships just to do a similar job at an L1 side? I've no idea how loans work but I assume most clubs must insert a clause that their players play a certain % of games. I can now see JW going out on loan until at least January to get some game time, assuming a deal to sell him this summer isn't already on the cards. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 10, 2024 9:28:58 GMT
BUDGET - I know it's not a popular topic, but perhaps if this happens, whilst not ideal, it ticks many boxes. Quality keeper, who has played 4 or 5 times more 1st team games than JW inc at Championship level, for very low cost, giving competition and the chance for JW development during training, leaving more funds available for those forward players we definitely need. Anyone any idea how much we normally pay towards the wages of loan players from big clubs ? What loan players cost v permanent signings seems to be one of football's mysteries. I've never seen one article published comparing the costs. |
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Post by percy on Jul 10, 2024 9:50:31 GMT
Welcome Josh but hope Jed gets to fight it out for the No.1 jersey.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 10, 2024 9:56:51 GMT
Welcome Josh but hope Jed gets to fight it out for the No.1 jersey. Pretty much my view, rather Jed got the nod but he has to earn it and justify keeping it. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 10, 2024 10:50:46 GMT
He's only 22 now, so you would have expected him to improve during the last 3 years. He was West Broms cup keeper last season and started both FA cup games and started 10 games in the championship the season before that. So he's deemed good enough to play as cover when needed as that level. Who ever signs, I think they should both start equal in pre season anyway. They can look at them in training and during games and then decide who is number 1. I think we need two keepers that can challenge to push each other on. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 10, 2024 11:25:32 GMT
Who ever signs, I think they should both start equal in pre season anyway. They can look at them in training and during games and then decide who is number 1. I think we need two keepers that can challenge to push each other on. Surely a reserve goalie at a top Championship club is always going to beat a reserve goalie at a L1 side, you can't imagine if a top Championship club signed JW this summer he'd start this season as their new No 2. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 10, 2024 11:38:15 GMT
Who ever signs, I think they should both start equal in pre season anyway. They can look at them in training and during games and then decide who is number 1. I think we need two keepers that can challenge to push each other on. Surely a reserve goalie at a top Championship club is always going to beat a reserve goalie at a L1 side, you can't imagine if a top Championship club signed JW this summer he'd start this season as their new No 2. Not necessarily, sometimes the 2nd keeper isn't that good they only play in emergencies. If the number 1 keeper gets injured, they bring in an emergency loan. I was hoping we would go for someone like Callum Burton. Then him and Ward could have pushed each other and we would be improving our own keepers. |
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Post by Beer Baron on Jul 10, 2024 12:43:13 GMT
I work with a Baggies supporter and he's very surprised we've managed to loan Griffiths as he's raving about his ability and the fact they'll now have to go and sign a replacement back up keeper.
Jed is already good enough and one of our own though, so it will be interesting watching this play out. UTG
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Post by percy on Jul 10, 2024 12:50:25 GMT
I work with a Baggies supporter and he's very surprised we've managed to loan Griffiths as he's raving about his ability and the fact they'll now have to go and sign a replacement back up keeper. Jed is already good enough and one of our own though, so it will be interesting watching this play out. UTG Maybe we are happy to agree to a recall option with them knowing we have Jed? |
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Post by nortongas1 on Jul 10, 2024 12:57:28 GMT
I work with a Baggies supporter and he's very surprised we've managed to loan Griffiths as he's raving about his ability and the fact they'll now have to go and sign a replacement back up keeper. Jed is already good enough and one of our own though, so it will be interesting watching this play out. UTG They have signed Joe Wildsmith from Derby |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 10, 2024 13:05:39 GMT
I work with a Baggies supporter and he's very surprised we've managed to loan Griffiths as he's raving about his ability and the fact they'll now have to go and sign a replacement back up keeper. Jed is already good enough and one of our own though, so it will be interesting watching this play out. UTG Maybe we are happy to agree to a recall option with them knowing we have Jed? If the club had no concerns about JW then why loan a goalie in the first place? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2024 13:05:52 GMT
Will not be surprised if we see a permanent keeper signed and Jed loaned out or even sold !
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 10, 2024 13:08:10 GMT
Surely a reserve goalie at a top Championship club is always going to beat a reserve goalie at a L1 side, you can't imagine if a top Championship club signed JW this summer he'd start this season as their new No 2. Not necessarily, sometimes the 2nd keeper isn't that good they only play in emergencies. If the number 1 keeper gets injured, they bring in an emergency loan. I was hoping we would go for someone like Callum Burton. Then him and Ward could have pushed each other and we would be improving our own keepers. If the No 2 has league experience you can't bring in an Emergency Keeper hence why Hall never plays for us. |
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Post by richie on Jul 10, 2024 13:37:52 GMT
Genuinely think some people would prefer us to get Belshaw back
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Post by bridgwatergas on Jul 10, 2024 13:43:04 GMT
Genuinely think some people would prefer us to get Belshaw back It's amazing the reaction to this we need another goalkeeper as Jed is not L1 ready. I have read quotes of well we are not going to be challenging this season so why not let him play and gain experience which made me laugh defeated before the season started. Noone knows how this season will play out what other players we sign and how other clubs get on. Yes some clubs have spent big but that guarantees you nothing and we have as much a chance as any other. I just hope our fans don't turn on the new keeper if he makes a mistake as we have plenty of recent history of doing that. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 10, 2024 14:31:41 GMT
Not necessarily, sometimes the 2nd keeper isn't that good they only play in emergencies. If the number 1 keeper gets injured, they bring in an emergency loan. I was hoping we would go for someone like Callum Burton. Then him and Ward could have pushed each other and we would be improving our own keepers. If the No 2 has league experience you can't bring in an Emergency Keeper hence why Hall never plays for us. Okay, I didn't know that, not really looked into the rule before. Some keepers might prefer to start in League 1, than be a number 2 in the championship though. Personally I would rather play, than sit on the bench. |
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Post by percy on Jul 10, 2024 14:36:14 GMT
Welcome, push Jed on and we will all be happy
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Jul 10, 2024 14:59:33 GMT
Seems a very good keeper, with experience at a young age. Hopefully Josh and Jed can push each other and strengthen us.
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Post by yetigas on Jul 10, 2024 14:59:51 GMT
Genuinely think some people would prefer us to get Belshaw back It's amazing the reaction to this we need another goalkeeper as Jed is not L1 ready. I have read quotes of well we are not going to be challenging this season so why not let him play and gain experience which made me laugh defeated before the season started. Noone knows how this season will play out what other players we sign and how other clubs get on. Yes some clubs have spent big but that guarantees you nothing and we have as much a chance as any other. I just hope our fans don't turn on the new keeper if he makes a mistake as we have plenty of recent history of doing that.My thought also. The way our so-called fans treated the young Brentford loanees was shameful. JW is a very promising keeper but I feel is not quite ready to be our automatic no.1. If this new guy is as good as he is said to be, then we have a very good signing. We have him for a year so for that time let's encourage him and treat him well. For this season he is ours so lets embrace that and be thankful he has chosen the Gas! Whether JW is with us or loaned out I am sure he will be no 1 when he is ready. |
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