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Post by SleepyGas on Jul 24, 2024 17:51:01 GMT
Maybe due to being arranged by the fans? I doubt they arranged the game? Oddly Google Photos reminded earlier that it was 8 years ago today that we played them. Facebook memories suggests it was 8 years ago that I flew to Barcelona. The game itself was on 26th July. A great time!! (result aside) We were made to feel VERY welcome |
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Post by gasify on Jul 24, 2024 18:33:16 GMT
Maybe due to being arranged by the fans? I doubt they arranged the game? Oddly Google Photos reminded earlier that it was 8 years ago today that we played them. Fans did everything else though. Made friends with the fans of Sabadell originally and turned up in their masses to the game. Booked their own accommodation and flights. The game was at their stadium, rather than some random place. It wasn't a training game, it was a celebration of blue and white quarters. All the good stuff and the stuff remembered was due to the fans, rather than the club. |
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Post by bridgwatergas on Jul 24, 2024 18:34:20 GMT
So if he is good enough to be a starter in league one why has Taylor said he will probably go out on loan this season. That says to me the MT dosent think he is ready to be a regular starter and I agree. He was voted young player as there wasn't alot of competition for the award and our fans do love a one of there own romance. Yes he is promising and we are right to sign him up to a long term deal as he will improve in time I have no doubt in that but he is nowhere near ready to be our number one now. But last season you were insistent Cox was good enough? Regardless is Griffiths that much better than Ward, from what we've seen so far? And there is nothing that changed my mind I still think Cox was good enough until the fans turned on him. He didn't make many mistakes again how many goals were down to his gaffs? Our defence was awful last season and he took the brunt of it because the Belshaw situation was still raw with alot people. Cox was also bought in by JB to play a certain way and that was to play out from the back and when MT took over things started to change and his form dipped as we didn't really play like that. |
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Post by bridgwatergas on Jul 24, 2024 18:37:34 GMT
So if he is good enough to be a starter in league one why has Taylor said he will probably go out on loan this season. That says to me the MT dosent think he is ready to be a regular starter and I agree. He was voted young player as there wasn't alot of competition for the award and our fans do love a one of there own romance. Yes he is promising and we are right to sign him up to a long term deal as he will improve in time I have no doubt in that but he is nowhere near ready to be our number one now. Neither is Josh Griffiths who is only 1 year older than Ward and overal stats actually have Jed Ward as the better keeper. Josh has been sent out on loan for game time which is understandable, in my opinion it’s a strange move to drop Ward for Josh, I am all for Ward going out on loan to get experience but to drop him over Griffiths is a strange call. Still, it’s Taylor’s side now so let’s see how this all unfolds in the new season. So a keeper who WBA fans believe is good enough to start in the Championship but dosent as the keeper they have is keeping him out. That said keeper is getting alot of interest from Premiership clubs. But Griffiths isn't good enough for us after a couple of pre season games. It seems some have made there minds up without giving him a chance. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 24, 2024 18:39:43 GMT
But last season you were insistent Cox was good enough? Regardless is Griffiths that much better than Ward, from what we've seen so far? And there is nothing that changed my mind I still think Cox was good enough until the fans turned on him. He didn't make many mistakes again how many goals were down to his gaffs? Our defence was awful last season and he took the brunt of it because the Belshaw situation was still raw with alot people. Cox was also bought in by JB to play a certain way and that was to play out from the back and when MT took over things started to change and his form dipped as we didn't really play like that. So you thought Cox was good enough to play last season but JW is now "nowhere near good enough to play this season", do you realise how ridiculous those two comments sound, when there's not a lot between them and most level headed fans would probably say JW was the better keeper last season. |
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Post by mrgasman on Jul 24, 2024 19:07:00 GMT
Neither is Josh Griffiths who is only 1 year older than Ward and overal stats actually have Jed Ward as the better keeper. Josh has been sent out on loan for game time which is understandable, in my opinion it’s a strange move to drop Ward for Josh, I am all for Ward going out on loan to get experience but to drop him over Griffiths is a strange call. Still, it’s Taylor’s side now so let’s see how this all unfolds in the new season. So a keeper who WBA fans believe is good enough to start in the Championship but dosent as the keeper they have is keeping him out. That said keeper is getting alot of interest from Premiership clubs. But Griffiths isn't good enough for us after a couple of pre season games. It seems some have made there minds up without giving him a chance. Interesting… which prem league clubs want him? If this was the case then why did he choose league one? Secondly, is that all of the West Brom fans or some? As I was speaking with a West Brom fan myself and they said he is prone for some bad mistakes. Yes, still very young and I’m sure he will improve but so will Ward. I’d have thought they’d have wanted to have got an older goalkeeper in that’s all. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 24, 2024 19:22:47 GMT
Neither is Josh Griffiths who is only 1 year older than Ward and overal stats actually have Jed Ward as the better keeper. Josh has been sent out on loan for game time which is understandable, in my opinion it’s a strange move to drop Ward for Josh, I am all for Ward going out on loan to get experience but to drop him over Griffiths is a strange call. Still, it’s Taylor’s side now so let’s see how this all unfolds in the new season. So a keeper who WBA fans believe is good enough to start in the Championship but dosent as the keeper they have is keeping him out. That said keeper is getting alot of interest from Premiership clubs. But Griffiths isn't good enough for us after a couple of pre season games. It seems some have made there minds up without giving him a chance. Griffiths won't even be WBA's No 2 this season if he spends the entire season in L1, it looks like 28 year old new signing Joe Wildsmith will be this season's No 2 |
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Post by bridgwatergas on Jul 24, 2024 19:37:49 GMT
So a keeper who WBA fans believe is good enough to start in the Championship but dosent as the keeper they have is keeping him out. That said keeper is getting alot of interest from Premiership clubs. But Griffiths isn't good enough for us after a couple of pre season games. It seems some have made there minds up without giving him a chance. Interesting… which prem league clubs want him? If this was the case then why did he choose league one? Secondly, is that all of the West Brom fans or some? As I was speaking with a West Brom fan myself and they said he is prone for some bad mistakes. Yes, still very young and I’m sure he will improve but so will Ward. I’d have thought they’d have wanted to have got an older goalkeeper in that’s all. I meant WBA 1st choice keeper is getting lots of Premiership interest that's why Griffiths wasn't getting a look in. |
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Post by bridgwatergas on Jul 24, 2024 19:39:13 GMT
So a keeper who WBA fans believe is good enough to start in the Championship but dosent as the keeper they have is keeping him out. That said keeper is getting alot of interest from Premiership clubs. But Griffiths isn't good enough for us after a couple of pre season games. It seems some have made there minds up without giving him a chance. Griffiths won't even be WBA's No 2 this season if he spends the entire season in L1, it looks like 28 year old new signing Joe Wildsmith will be this season's No 2 Correct and I don't blame WBA as there are Premiership clubs sniffing around there current number one so getting in another experienced keeper is a no brainer. |
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Post by stevek192 on Jul 24, 2024 19:55:51 GMT
Topper Gas, Anybody whp thinks Jed ward is a number 1 keeper at this time are kidding themselves.Personally I would have liked a keeper around the age of 26 plus but we have to give the new keeper a chance.Certainly cant be rated on 2 friendlies as against `the nearing 200 first team appearnces he has made. For me Cox was a much better keeper than our fans gave him credit for and made few mistakes prior to the awful one v Exeter. If Jed is that good then there will be a host of League clubs wanting to take him as their number 1. IMO he will need to go National League to get a guaranteed number 1 spot.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 24, 2024 19:59:51 GMT
Griffiths won't even be WBA's No 2 this season if he spends the entire season in L1, it looks like 28 year old new signing Joe Wildsmith will be this season's No 2 Correct and I don't blame WBA as there are Premiership clubs sniffing around there current number one so getting in another experienced keeper is a no brainer. Sending out Griffiths on loan makes no sense then when there's now no recall option until at least January, the conclusion must be WBA don't consider JG is required as there No 2 until at least January and probably for the entire season. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 24, 2024 20:03:31 GMT
Topper Gas, Anybody whp thinks Jed ward is a number 1 keeper at this time are kidding themselves.Personally I would have liked a keeper around the age of 26 plus but we have to give the new keeper a chance.Certainly cant be rated on 2 friendlies as against `the nearing 200 first team appearnces he has made. For me Cox was a much better keeper than our fans gave him credit for and made few mistakes prior to the awful one v Exeter. If Jed is that good then there will be a host of League clubs wanting to take him as their number 1. IMO he will need to go National League to get a guaranteed number 1 spot. No different than you kidding yourself JG is a far better keeper when you haven't even see him play omne competitive match? I think we both agree we needed an experienced goalie not another youngster. |
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Post by aforce on Jul 24, 2024 20:14:27 GMT
There seems to have been this thing at rovers for as long as I can remember where our young players can’t be any good until they are at least 23 (unless your on loan from a team higher up the pyramid)If we had Lamine yamal I bet we would ship him out to Gloucester city for the season as he would be too ‘inexperienced’
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Post by bridgwatergas on Jul 24, 2024 20:15:40 GMT
Correct and I don't blame WBA as there are Premiership clubs sniffing around there current number one so getting in another experienced keeper is a no brainer. Sending out Griffiths on loan makes no sense then when there's now no recall option until at least January, the conclusion must be WBA don't consider JG is required as there No 2 until at least January and probably for the entire season. It makes plenty of sense. We are looking at loaning out Ward and that leaves us with Hall as our back up. This is where clubs are quite smart and can use the emergency keeper loan if there 1st choice is injured. |
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Post by mrgasman on Jul 24, 2024 20:43:01 GMT
There seems to have been this thing at rovers for as long as I can remember where our young players can’t be any good until they are at least 23 (unless your on loan from a team higher up the pyramid)If we had Lamine yamal I bet we would ship him out to Gloucester city for the season as he would be too ‘inexperienced’ Hmmm, possibly but I’d say Gloucester city may be too difficult for him. I mean it takes great strength to live in a place like Glaaaawstaaaa 😂 |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 24, 2024 20:45:28 GMT
Sending out Griffiths on loan makes no sense then when there's now no recall option until at least January, the conclusion must be WBA don't consider JG is required as there No 2 until at least January and probably for the entire season. It makes plenty of sense. We are looking at loaning out Ward and that leaves us with Hall as our back up. This is where clubs are quite smart and can use the emergency keeper loan if there 1st choice is injured. WBA aren't a L1/L2 side desperate to save every penny, you've made up Palmer is being sold, now made up they are going to use an Emergency keeper if he his sold. |
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Post by albaron on Jul 24, 2024 20:47:12 GMT
So a keeper who WBA fans believe is good enough to start in the Championship but dosent as the keeper they have is keeping him out. That said keeper is getting alot of interest from Premiership clubs. But Griffiths isn't good enough for us after a couple of pre season games. It seems some have made there minds up without giving him a chance. Griffiths won't even be WBA's No 2 this season if he spends the entire season in L1, it looks like 28 year old new signing Joe Wildsmith will be this season's No 2 What a bloody stupid statement to make. Of course he won't be there number 2 if he is on loan to another club for the whole season. Won't be there number 1,3,4 or 5 either -- As he won't be there. Clueless |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 24, 2024 20:55:03 GMT
Griffiths won't even be WBA's No 2 this season if he spends the entire season in L1, it looks like 28 year old new signing Joe Wildsmith will be this season's No 2 What a bloody stupid statement to make. Of course he won't be there number 2 if he is on loan to another club for the whole season. Won't be there number 1,3,4 or 5 either -- As he won't be there. Clueless I was responding to the OP suggestion JG is considered by some Baggies fans to be their No 1 when he's clearly not going to be, as they've brought in another keeper who looks likely to be their No 2 this season, as there no signs Palmer is about to be sold. Wildsmith interestingly was Derby's No 1 last season, so JG is clearly considered inferior to him. |
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Post by yetigas on Jul 25, 2024 9:49:05 GMT
I can't believe some people are willing to make judgements after a couple of pre-season friendlies. I have no idea how JG will turn out during the course of the season, time will tell. But if things go wrong I will NOT be one of the 'fans' getting on his back, calling for JW etc. Jed did OK when he first came in but after a honeymoon period he was clearly not the L1 standard we need. But he got good experience when it was clear we were not going up or down, so that is a good thing...and he could well mature into our no 1 in seasons to come. To me, Cox was a FAR better all round goalkeeper, whose confidence our so called fans managed to destroy.
So lets get behind JG, the rest of the team, and the manager, from the first match - be patient as the new players gel and grow together. UTG!!
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Post by nortongas1 on Jul 25, 2024 9:50:53 GMT
What a bloody stupid statement to make. Of course he won't be there number 2 if he is on loan to another club for the whole season. Won't be there number 1,3,4 or 5 either -- As he won't be there. Clueless I was responding to the OP suggestion JG is considered by some Baggies fans to be their No 1 when he's clearly not going to be, as they've brought in another keeper who looks likely to be their No 2 this season, as there no signs Palmer is about to be sold. Wildsmith interestingly was Derby's No 1 last season, so JG is clearly considered inferior to him. Or they wanted him out on loan to get games like us with Jed |
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