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Post by ashlinggas on Sept 25, 2024 15:17:54 GMT
And they say you can't polish a turd. Well the owners have given the lie to that one. You could roll it in glitter... |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 25, 2024 18:49:17 GMT
It’s all a bit quiet. I’d have expected news of some form by now.
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Post by singupgas on Sept 25, 2024 19:42:38 GMT
It’s all a bit quiet. I’d have expected news of some form by now. Very frustrating, always seem to be secretive. Just makes me think no progress is being made or it's already dead. We fans need something to feel positive about, owners read the room. |
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Post by ifollowgas on Sept 25, 2024 20:05:04 GMT
I see the Old Trafford first artist impressions have been released...no likely will cost well over a Billion to build... Any danger we could see what the club has planned with the Mem? 100,000 New Trafford and a scaled down Old Trafford to 30,000 for the women’s team. Meanwhile in Horfield Bristol … 😴 |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 25, 2024 20:07:58 GMT
It’s all a bit quiet. I’d have expected news of some form by now. Very frustrating, always seem to be secretive. Just makes me think no progress is being made or it's already dead. We fans need something to feel positive about, owners read the room. Can you really see the club discussing the plans with the planners and also holding meetings with the local residents, only to then forget about their plans? Not sure the owners are going to announce the plans until they are ready just to keep a few forums members happy, that's hardly the work of a professional organisation. |
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Post by aghast on Sept 25, 2024 21:25:24 GMT
Very frustrating, always seem to be secretive. Just makes me think no progress is being made or it's already dead. We fans need something to feel positive about, owners read the room. Can you really see the club discussing the plans with the planners and also holding meetings with the local residents, only to then forget about their plans? Not sure the owners are going to announce the plans until they are ready just to keep a few forums members happy, that's hardly the work of a professional organisation. Either that, or of course, there is nothing to announce. Which is more likely? If the months roll on and on and on without even an announcement of what the plans are, let alone getting planning permission, finance and building the thing, then perhaps it's only natural for some of us to feel a little sceptical about it happening any time in the next 5 or even 10 years. |
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Post by singupgas on Sept 26, 2024 7:35:47 GMT
Very frustrating, always seem to be secretive. Just makes me think no progress is being made or it's already dead. We fans need something to feel positive about, owners read the room. Can you really see the club discussing the plans with the planners and also holding meetings with the local residents, only to then forget about their plans? Not sure the owners are going to announce the plans until they are ready just to keep a few forums members happy, that's hardly the work of a professional organisation. My point was more how is it a billion pound project can be made public, but yet little old Rovers just trying to build a 17k seater stadium on land already owned, you get nothing. Perhaps the owners would get more support if things weren't so secretive. |
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Post by percy on Sept 26, 2024 7:41:24 GMT
Can you really see the club discussing the plans with the planners and also holding meetings with the local residents, only to then forget about their plans? Not sure the owners are going to announce the plans until they are ready just to keep a few forums members happy, that's hardly the work of a professional organisation. My point was more how is it a billion pound project can be made public, but yet little old Rovers just trying to build a 17k seater stadium on land already owned, you get nothing. I think they were burned by the south stand mess being announced and trumpeted as being ready for the new season when they hadnt even started the planning process yet! An update of sorts was given at the fans forum |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 26, 2024 8:49:20 GMT
How long to build a 3 sided 14,000 seat stadium from the ground up
Just asking for a friend
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 26, 2024 8:56:22 GMT
How long to build a 3 sided 14,000 seat stadium from the ground up Just asking for a friend Ooo!, fishing. 😀 Okay, I'll bite. Mem or South Glos? Inclusive of the South Stand or replacing the West Stand too? 😘 |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 26, 2024 9:00:51 GMT
How long to build a 3 sided 14,000 seat stadium from the ground up Just asking for a friend Ooo!, fishing. 😀 Okay, I'll bite. Mem or South Glos? Inclusive of the South Stand or replacing the West Stand too? 😘 Not fishing my fellow gas head, just having a chat with a fellow old timer who has got in his head that we can rebuild the 3 old parts of mem stadium from ground up in less than 12 months, i know nothing of these things time wise and i said 3 years, just asking people on here who know about these things. This just the build time not including planning which will take for ever |
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 26, 2024 9:13:34 GMT
Can you really see the club discussing the plans with the planners and also holding meetings with the local residents, only to then forget about their plans? Not sure the owners are going to announce the plans until they are ready just to keep a few forums members happy, that's hardly the work of a professional organisation. My point was more how is it a billion pound project can be made public, but yet little old Rovers just trying to build a 17k seater stadium on land already owned, you get nothing. Perhaps the owners would get more support if things weren't so secretive. Most of it hasn't been made public has it? There a few photos of the outside of a potential stadium with little details. Unless there are plans elsewhere I have not seen, their plans don't show a lot at this stage and are likely to change. I would rather wait until we have something a bit more to show. Than show something that means nothing, as it's likely to change. |
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 26, 2024 10:07:13 GMT
Ooo!, fishing. 😀 Okay, I'll bite. Mem or South Glos? Inclusive of the South Stand or replacing the West Stand too? 😘 Not fishing my fellow gas head, just having a chat with a fellow old timer who has got in his head that we can rebuild the 3 old parts of mem stadium from ground up in less than 12 months, i know nothing of these things time wise and i said 3 years, just asking people on here who know about these things. This just the build time not including planning which will take for ever Depends if you’re building or putting together a prefabricated stadium. |
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Sept 26, 2024 11:11:28 GMT
My point was more how is it a billion pound project can be made public, but yet little old Rovers just trying to build a 17k seater stadium on land already owned, you get nothing. Perhaps the owners would get more support if things weren't so secretive. Most of it hasn't been made public has it? There a few photos of the outside of a potential stadium with little details. Unless there are plans elsewhere I have not seen, their plans don't show a lot at this stage and are likely to change. I would rather wait until we have something a bit more to show. Than show something that means nothing, as it's likely to change. The recent history of our club (post Higgs) is that nothing is ever said when nothing is happening, UWE no communication except 'these things take time' for over a year before we learned it wasn't happening. Exactly the same with the Fruit Market only it was an even longer silence. Then it was suddenly the opposite with the South Stand, we have plans and then it was built even before planning permission was given! Now its back to the long silence again. The club doesn't communicate when nothing is happening, not even a vision for us to get excited about, and that will most likely be because there is NOTHING going on. |
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Post by gasify on Sept 26, 2024 12:01:58 GMT
Most of it hasn't been made public has it? There a few photos of the outside of a potential stadium with little details. Unless there are plans elsewhere I have not seen, their plans don't show a lot at this stage and are likely to change. I would rather wait until we have something a bit more to show. Than show something that means nothing, as it's likely to change. The recent history of our club (post Higgs) is that nothing is ever said when nothing is happening, UWE no communication except 'these things take time' for over a year before we learned it wasn't happening. Exactly the same with the Fruit Market only it was an even longer silence. Then it was suddenly the opposite with the South Stand, we have plans and then it was built even before planning permission was given! Now its back to the long silence again. The club doesn't communicate when nothing is happening, not even a vision for us to get excited about, and that will most likely be because there is NOTHING going on. They didn't really communicate with the South Stand if you look back on it. Was built in the November. We got to use it for the first time in the following Jan and that was a real last minute decision. There wasn't much discussed between Nov and Jan. |
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Post by yattongas on Sept 26, 2024 12:24:16 GMT
Not fishing my fellow gas head, just having a chat with a fellow old timer who has got in his head that we can rebuild the 3 old parts of mem stadium from ground up in less than 12 months, i know nothing of these things time wise and i said 3 years, just asking people on here who know about these things. This just the build time not including planning which will take for ever Depends if you’re building or putting together a prefabricated stadium. Would be gutted if it is prefabricated but think that’s what we’ll get if anything happens at all. |
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Post by ifollowgas on Sept 26, 2024 12:50:48 GMT
Most of it hasn't been made public has it? There a few photos of the outside of a potential stadium with little details. Unless there are plans elsewhere I have not seen, their plans don't show a lot at this stage and are likely to change. I would rather wait until we have something a bit more to show. Than show something that means nothing, as it's likely to change. The recent history of our club (post Higgs) is that nothing is ever said when nothing is happening, UWE no communication except 'these things take time' for over a year before we learned it wasn't happening. Exactly the same with the Fruit Market only it was an even longer silence. Then it was suddenly the opposite with the South Stand, we have plans and then it was built even before planning permission was given! Now its back to the long silence again. The club doesn't communicate when nothing is happening, not even a vision for us to get excited about, and that will most likely be because there is NOTHING going on. My guess is that the owners' idea of somehow using the existing East Stand structure and building onto it, has hit so many technical snags and possibly Council disapproval, that they have had to go back to the drawing board. Most Rovers' fans know that the current East Stand needs to be totally demolished and replaced, probably that is what the planners recommend too. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Sept 26, 2024 13:07:40 GMT
The recent history of our club (post Higgs) is that nothing is ever said when nothing is happening, UWE no communication except 'these things take time' for over a year before we learned it wasn't happening. Exactly the same with the Fruit Market only it was an even longer silence. Then it was suddenly the opposite with the South Stand, we have plans and then it was built even before planning permission was given! Now its back to the long silence again. The club doesn't communicate when nothing is happening, not even a vision for us to get excited about, and that will most likely be because there is NOTHING going on. My guess is that the owners' idea of somehow using the existing East Stand structure and building onto it, has hit so many technical snags and possibly Council disapproval, that they have had to go back to the drawing board. Most Rovers' fans know that the current East Stand needs to be totally demolished and replaced, probably that is what the planners recommend too. Its a bit of an eyesore and not big enough but does have the best views in the stadium. I hope any new build doesnt reduce that |
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 26, 2024 13:17:06 GMT
Depends if you’re building or putting together a prefabricated stadium. Would be gutted if it is prefabricated but think that’s what we’ll get if anything happens at all. I think a lot depends for me if it's a stepping stone. I keep saying it but the current situation with the South Stand is only really acceptable with a significant investment in a permanent structure on either the East or West side. AFC Wimbledon have gone down a similar path with three prefabricated stands and one permanent structure while they look to raise the funds to complete the stadium. We shall see. I'm tired. |
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Post by yattongas on Sept 26, 2024 13:27:00 GMT
Would be gutted if it is prefabricated but think that’s what we’ll get if anything happens at all. I think a lot depends for me if it's a stepping stone. I keep saying it but the current situation with the South Stand is only really acceptable with a significant investment in a permanent structure on either the East or West side. AFC Wimbledon have gone down a similar path with three prefabricated stands and one permanent structure while they look to raise the funds to complete the stadium. We shall see. I'm tired. The South stand is ok and a lot better than the previous one but so many seats are restricted viewing due to the pillars and some in the corner behind the double pillars are unusable. |
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