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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 26, 2024 14:35:45 GMT
Most of it hasn't been made public has it? There a few photos of the outside of a potential stadium with little details. Unless there are plans elsewhere I have not seen, their plans don't show a lot at this stage and are likely to change. I would rather wait until we have something a bit more to show. Than show something that means nothing, as it's likely to change. The recent history of our club (post Higgs) is that nothing is ever said when nothing is happening, UWE no communication except 'these things take time' for over a year before we learned it wasn't happening. Exactly the same with the Fruit Market only it was an even longer silence. Then it was suddenly the opposite with the South Stand, we have plans and then it was built even before planning permission was given! Now its back to the long silence again. The club doesn't communicate when nothing is happening, not even a vision for us to get excited about, and that will most likely be because there is NOTHING going on. Haven't they held meetings with local residents and business as well as the planning department? That would suggest work has been going on behind the scenes, unless they have nothing better to do with their spare time. Bristol Rovers Football Club was pleased to talk with our neighbours and local community during a series of residents meetings. Held at The Memorial Stadium on Monday 8 July and Monday 15 July, the Club welcomed homeowners and tenants from the surrounding area for a first-round conversation regarding the ambitious plans to invest in and redevelop the Stadium. Representatives from the Club engaged in productive dialogue with our neighbours, listened intently to feedback and assured those in attendance that an honest line of communication would remain open between all parties throughout the process. Hussain AlSaeed, Bristol Rovers Chairman, said: “Honesty and transparency with our supporters and neighbours is a critical aspect of this journey as we look to improve the infrastructure of the Memorial Stadium and our training ground. “We are committed to developing our Stadium into a vibrant, welcoming ground for fans of all ages, backgrounds and walks of life, and significantly important to doing so is bringing those who live local to The Memorial Stadium on that journey with us. “I hope those in attendance during the meetings felt they were able to share their thoughts and opinions in an open conversation and understand that this round of meetings was a first step in an ongoing process. “I would like to thank everyone who came along to the meetings and I look forward to working closely with them in the future.” Following this first-stage discussion with local residents, the Club will now undergo a consultation period with the council and other stakeholders through the pre-application process. This was said after: A press conference will then be held in due course to showcase the planned developments at both The Memorial Stadium and The Quarters Training Facility |
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Post by gasify on Sept 26, 2024 14:39:31 GMT
I think a lot depends for me if it's a stepping stone. I keep saying it but the current situation with the South Stand is only really acceptable with a significant investment in a permanent structure on either the East or West side. AFC Wimbledon have gone down a similar path with three prefabricated stands and one permanent structure while they look to raise the funds to complete the stadium. We shall see. I'm tired. The South stand is ok and a lot better than the previous one but so many seats are restricted viewing due to the pillars and some in the corner behind the double pillars are unusable. The whole of the Thatchers end is restricted viewing if you use that definition... |
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Post by yattongas on Sept 26, 2024 14:41:18 GMT
The recent history of our club (post Higgs) is that nothing is ever said when nothing is happening, UWE no communication except 'these things take time' for over a year before we learned it wasn't happening. Exactly the same with the Fruit Market only it was an even longer silence. Then it was suddenly the opposite with the South Stand, we have plans and then it was built even before planning permission was given! Now its back to the long silence again. The club doesn't communicate when nothing is happening, not even a vision for us to get excited about, and that will most likely be because there is NOTHING going on. Haven't they held meetings with local residents and business as well as the planning department? That would suggest work has been going on behind the scenes, unless they have nothing better to do with their spare time. Still surprising that nothing has come out about these meetings with locals isn’t it? You’d think that at least one was a Gashead or would spill the beans to a Gashead. No idea what they talk about to residents but surely it can’t be …..we’re gonna rebuild the stadium without any substance to what they are actually planning! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 26, 2024 16:24:52 GMT
Haven't they held meetings with local residents and business as well as the planning department? That would suggest work has been going on behind the scenes, unless they have nothing better to do with their spare time. Still surprising that nothing has come out about these meetings with locals isn’t it? You’d think that at least one was a Gashead or would spill the beans to a Gashead. No idea what they talk about to residents but surely it can’t be …..we’re gonna rebuild the stadium without any substance to what they are actually planning! From their Facebook group, which anybody can request to join, it seems only a handful of residents attended the meetings. Wael's has confirmed on the YouTube video shown on the other "stands" thread that the co-owners are still looking to develop the Mem. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 26, 2024 16:27:56 GMT
The recent history of our club (post Higgs) is that nothing is ever said when nothing is happening, UWE no communication except 'these things take time' for over a year before we learned it wasn't happening. Exactly the same with the Fruit Market only it was an even longer silence. Then it was suddenly the opposite with the South Stand, we have plans and then it was built even before planning permission was given! Now its back to the long silence again. The club doesn't communicate when nothing is happening, not even a vision for us to get excited about, and that will most likely be because there is NOTHING going on. My guess is that the owners' idea of somehow using the existing East Stand structure and building onto it, has hit so many technical snags and possibly Council disapproval, that they have had to go back to the drawing board. Most Rovers' fans know that the current East Stand needs to be totally demolished and replaced, probably that is what the planners recommend too. I doubt the planners have any say in what happens to the present stands, their only involvement will be discussing the future plans for the ground. The architects may well have more of a say. |
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Post by yattongas on Sept 26, 2024 16:28:27 GMT
Still surprising that nothing has come out about these meetings with locals isn’t it? You’d think that at least one was a Gashead or would spill the beans to a Gashead. No idea what they talk about to residents but surely it can’t be …..we’re gonna rebuild the stadium without any substance to what they are actually planning! From their Facebook group, which anybody can request to join, it seems only a handful of residents attended the meetings. Wael's has confirmed on the YouTube video shown on the other "stands" thread that the co-owners are still looking to develop the Mem. Have you joined ? I don’t do facebook. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 26, 2024 16:43:27 GMT
From their Facebook group, which anybody can request to join, it seems only a handful of residents attended the meetings. Wael's has confirmed on the YouTube video shown on the other "stands" thread that the co-owners are still looking to develop the Mem. Have you joined ? I don’t do facebook. Yep, they've not posted anything further about the meetings since the last one took place. |
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Post by gasify on Sept 26, 2024 18:38:25 GMT
My guess is that the owners' idea of somehow using the existing East Stand structure and building onto it, has hit so many technical snags and possibly Council disapproval, that they have had to go back to the drawing board. Most Rovers' fans know that the current East Stand needs to be totally demolished and replaced, probably that is what the planners recommend too. , their only involvement will be discussing the future plans for the ground. The architects may well have more of a say. I would imagine the ideas would be run past the planning department and the planning department would say that it would be likely to be granted permission or to make it more likely then x,y and z needs to be addressed. |
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Post by yattongas on Sept 26, 2024 19:15:12 GMT
The South stand is ok and a lot better than the previous one but so many seats are restricted viewing due to the pillars and some in the corner behind the double pillars are unusable. The whole of the Thatchers end is restricted viewing if you use that definition... Slightly different if you’re sat down . |
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Post by gasify on Sept 26, 2024 19:27:46 GMT
The whole of the Thatchers end is restricted viewing if you use that definition... Slightly different if you’re sat down . True. If your sat down on the Thatchers, you won't see anything. |
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Post by aghast on Sept 26, 2024 20:36:08 GMT
Still surprising that nothing has come out about these meetings with locals isn’t it? You’d think that at least one was a Gashead or would spill the beans to a Gashead. No idea what they talk about to residents but surely it can’t be …..we’re gonna rebuild the stadium without any substance to what they are actually planning! From their Facebook group, which anybody can request to join, it seems only a handful of residents attended the meetings. Wael's has confirmed on the YouTube video shown on the other "stands" thread that the co-owners are still looking to develop the Mem. Or perhaps washed his hands of it |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 26, 2024 20:51:11 GMT
From their Facebook group, which anybody can request to join, it seems only a handful of residents attended the meetings. Wael's has confirmed on the YouTube video shown on the other "stands" thread that the co-owners are still looking to develop the Mem. Or perhaps washed his hands of it I sense he's washed his hands of anything to do with Rovers, it's a bit of a surprise the way he seems to have just moved on. |
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Post by curlywurly on Sept 26, 2024 22:51:15 GMT
Or perhaps washed his hands of it I sense he's washed his hands of anything to do with Rovers, it's a bit of a surprise the way he seems to have just moved on. Apart from the fact that he still has a significant share holding. The deal left the Al Saeed family in overall control, so only natural that they take the lead and Wael takes more of a back seat.
Personally - I don't want to see another artist's impression, until the day we submit the planning application. Whether that's one month, one year or more.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Sept 27, 2024 6:03:12 GMT
No more artist impressions, tick. No more false promises, tick. Tend to agree, Wael seems to have gone to ground, not seen him in a photo shot recently with the quarters on beaming from ear to ear, shame. And who are the new owners, not really got a clear understanding about what they are actually up to ?, its good to talk.
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Sept 27, 2024 6:38:49 GMT
Can someone on here please clarify something about the south stand.
Are the pillars necessary because the stand is ‘temporary’?
When can we turn it into a permanent structure? After the other 3 sides are developed?
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Post by percy on Sept 27, 2024 6:59:54 GMT
Can someone on here please clarify something about the south stand. Are the pillars necessary because the stand is ‘temporary’? When can we turn it into a permanent structure? After the other 3 sides are developed? It has pillars at it is not cantilevered and to do so would have been much more expensive and needed more room (so fewer seats). Space should not be an issue for east and north so just whether they want to spend the money. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 27, 2024 7:07:50 GMT
I doubt the planners have any say in what happens to the present stands, their only involvement will be discussing the future plans for the ground. The architects may well have more of a say. I would imagine the ideas would be run past the planning department and the planning department would say that it would be likely to be granted permission or to make it more likely then x,y and z needs to be addressed. This is exactly what will/is going on at the moment |
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Post by supergas on Sept 27, 2024 7:10:05 GMT
Can someone on here please clarify something about the south stand. Are the pillars necessary because the stand is ‘temporary’? When can we turn it into a permanent structure? After the other 3 sides are developed? 'Temporary' in the sense there is little to no concrete/brickwork above ground. It will be there for decades I guess. You could upgrade the roof in the future. Would be hard to cantilever the existing (or any new) roof structure from behind as it's too close to the site boundary. You could put a large truss across the front, suspended from new structures (one would be the new East Stand, the other whatever ends up in the SW corner). Can't see it myself, I suspect the pillars are there to stay.. |
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Post by singupgas on Sept 27, 2024 7:19:57 GMT
The South Stand is definitely a big improvement on what was there, nobody could argue that it isn't, is it a modern structure most football clubs would build, no.
As we don't really know about the west developments yet, not sure if it will ever get rebuilt , but the East and north stand have to be something better than the south.
Let's be honest, we are never going to move from the Mem site, the owners surely realise that, Wael didn't have the money to buy land and build, nor do the new owners it would seem. So building something that is going to stand time and look the part at the Mem is the only option.
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Post by gasheadontour on Sept 27, 2024 10:22:46 GMT
The South Stand is definitely a big improvement on what was there, nobody could argue that it isn't, is it a modern structure most football clubs would build, no. As we don't really know about the west developments yet, not sure if it will ever get rebuilt , but the East and north stand have to be something better than the south. Let's be honest, we are never going to move from the Mem site, the owners surely realise that, Wael didn't have the money to buy land and build, nor do the new owners it would seem. So building something that is going to stand time and look the part at the Mem is the only option. Planning permission was achived for big projets at The Mem and UWE. Return on investment is the key. Relaxation of planning restrictions on the training ground may help release funds.
Is the UWE Stadium site still available?
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