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Post by baggins on Sept 18, 2024 18:27:59 GMT
Obviously a very reliable source started this rumour. Thebuzzisback indeed.
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Post by pucklegas on Sept 18, 2024 19:02:39 GMT
Have they gone yet asking for a friend!
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Post by baggins on Sept 18, 2024 19:15:06 GMT
Have they gone yet asking for a friend! Yep. Left yesterday. Keep up.
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Post by gasheadowen on Sept 18, 2024 19:24:50 GMT
This thread clearly shows who lives in the real world and who lives at home with their mum doing everything for them, whilst they play football manager.
For those criticising Taylor can you point to a time in your work life where you've come in to manage an underperforming team, many of whom have a misguided loyalty to a previous manager who allowed them to live 160 miles away and organised training accordingly? Once you've done that please explain who with immediate effect you had them performing in such a way that they smashing KPIs quicker than competitors with better facilities and a more skilled workforce.
Or tell us the time when you had to recruit 75% of a new team, many of whom had to relocate for the job and within 6 weeks had them outperforming competitors with better facilities and a more skilled and settled work force.
If come March we're in severe manager of relegation than maybe we have to break glass in emergency and get a Warnock type figure in go preserve our status, but until then talk of MT moving on is quite frankly insane.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 18, 2024 19:40:36 GMT
the actual process of signing Forde, Taylor revealed: "He was a name which has been there for a number of weeks, I have to be honest in relation to that, but he wasn't obtainable and his availability would have cost too much. Now, obviously as it's got towards the end, it's come down a little bit and then we were able to say, okay, that's a realistic financial outlay for us for where we see the potential outlay of the playe Thanks. Those were the words I recalled hearing from MT. As I said before I think Topper was deliberately mischievous in trying to paint a picture of some big disconnect between GF and MT on signings which these comments show isn’t really the case. I’m not a huge MT fan but supporters stirring like this doesn’t really help anyone. Nothing mischievous, I've never suggested MT wasn't aware of the players GF/the VP intended signing just wandered what involvement he actually has in identifying the players they signed and also choosing who we eventually signed. I'd be amazed if DC or JB had said in the past that they went to bed thinking our transfer window signings were complete, then woke up only to find we'd signed another player.
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Post by gasheadowen on Sept 18, 2024 19:47:49 GMT
Thanks. Those were the words I recalled hearing from MT. As I said before I think Topper was deliberately mischievous in trying to paint a picture of some big disconnect between GF and MT on signings which these comments show isn’t really the case. I’m not a huge MT fan but supporters stirring like this doesn’t really help anyone. Nothing mischievous, I've never suggested MT wasn't aware of the players GF/the VP intended signing just wandered what involvement he actually has in identifying the players they signed and also choosing who we eventually signed. I'd be amazed if DC or JB had said in the past that they went to bed thinking our transfer window signings were complete, then woke up only to find we'd signed another player. Again this isn't Football Manager, stuff like this happens all the time. I'm sure Kevin Spencer or one of the other old directors that used to post on the forums said that Lambert was considerably down a list of strikers PT and LL had approved and Dunford did the deal himself when it became apparent their preferred options weren't available (Andy Williams who we signed a year later was first pick if I recall correctly)
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 18, 2024 20:10:13 GMT
Nothing mischievous, I've never suggested MT wasn't aware of the players GF/the VP intended signing just wandered what involvement he actually has in identifying the players they signed and also choosing who we eventually signed. I'd be amazed if DC or JB had said in the past that they went to bed thinking our transfer window signings were complete, then woke up only to find we'd signed another player. Again this isn't Football Manager, stuff like this happens all the time. I'm sure Kevin Spencer or one of the other old directors that used to post on the forums said that Lambert was considerably down a list of strikers PT and LL had approved and Dunford did the deal himself when it became apparent their preferred options weren't available (Andy Williams who we signed a year later was first pick if I recall correctly) Word on the terraces at the time was that Geoff Dunford went directly to Gerry Francis asking him to recommend players, just before we signed Andy Tilson. Don't know if it was true, but I can believe it or that similar happens.
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Post by baggins on Sept 18, 2024 20:16:10 GMT
This thread clearly shows who lives in the real world and who lives at home with their mum doing everything for them, whilst they play football manager. For those criticising Taylor can you point to a time in your work life where you've come in to manage an underperforming team, many of whom have a misguided loyalty to a previous manager who allowed them to live 160 miles away and organised training accordingly? Once you've done that please explain who with immediate effect you had them performing in such a way that they smashing KPIs quicker than competitors with better facilities and a more skilled workforce. Or tell us the time when you had to recruit 75% of a new team, many of whom had to relocate for the job and within 6 weeks had them outperforming competitors with better facilities and a more skilled and settled work force. If come March we're in severe manager of relegation than maybe we have to break glass in emergency and get a Warnock type figure in go preserve our status, but until then talk of MT moving on is quite frankly insane. Best post of the thread.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 18, 2024 21:15:44 GMT
This thread clearly shows who lives in the real world and who lives at home with their mum doing everything for them, whilst they play football manager. For those criticising Taylor can you point to a time in your work life where you've come in to manage an underperforming team, many of whom have a misguided loyalty to a previous manager who allowed them to live 160 miles away and organised training accordingly? Once you've done that please explain who with immediate effect you had them performing in such a way that they smashing KPIs quicker than competitors with better facilities and a more skilled workforce.Or tell us the time when you had to recruit 75% of a new team, many of whom had to relocate for the job and within 6 weeks had them outperforming competitors with better facilities and a more skilled and settled work force. If come March we're in severe manager of relegation than maybe we have to break glass in emergency and get a Warnock type figure in go preserve our status, but until then talk of MT moving on is quite frankly insane. Where's your evidence the players had a misguided loyalty to the previous manager? They were hardly performing for him so all MT had to do was not rattle any cages and try and squeeze some better performances out of them before he could change things in the summer, instead he seemed to go for the sledge hammer approach and destroyed moral totally, some of press outbursts, were hardly going to build bridges. We can all accept it'll take time to get the players performing to their full potential but instead of making slow progress the first 20 mins at Barnsley and last 70 mins on Saturday were right back to last season's poor performances . The biggest under performers this season have been Taylor, Thomas, Ward & McCormack, the likes of Mola, Moore & PC have all been playing OK, so relocation doesn't seem that bigger an issue.
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Post by mrgasman on Sept 18, 2024 21:49:25 GMT
This thread clearly shows who lives in the real world and who lives at home with their mum doing everything for them, whilst they play football manager. For those criticising Taylor can you point to a time in your work life where you've come in to manage an underperforming team, many of whom have a misguided loyalty to a previous manager who allowed them to live 160 miles away and organised training accordingly? Once you've done that please explain who with immediate effect you had them performing in such a way that they smashing KPIs quicker than competitors with better facilities and a more skilled workforce.Or tell us the time when you had to recruit 75% of a new team, many of whom had to relocate for the job and within 6 weeks had them outperforming competitors with better facilities and a more skilled and settled work force. If come March we're in severe manager of relegation than maybe we have to break glass in emergency and get a Warnock type figure in go preserve our status, but until then talk of MT moving on is quite frankly insane. Where's your evidence the players had a misguided loyalty to the previous manager? They were hardly performing for him so all MT had to do was not rattle any cages and try and squeeze some better performances out of them before he could change things in the summer, instead he seemed to go for the sledge hammer approach and destroyed moral totally, some of press outbursts, were hardly going to build bridges. We can all accept it'll take time to get the players performing to their full potential but instead of making slow progress the first 20 mins at Barnsley and last 70 mins on Saturday were right back to last season's poor performances . The biggest under performers this season have been Taylor, Thomas, Ward & McCormack, the likes of Mola, Moore & PC have all been playing OK, so relocation doesn't seem that bigger an issue. Thomas isn’t a RWB. Taylor I agree hasn’t been great and McCormick is just terrible. League one isn’t his level, I think conference league is.
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Post by gasheadowen on Sept 18, 2024 21:50:35 GMT
This thread clearly shows who lives in the real world and who lives at home with their mum doing everything for them, whilst they play football manager. For those criticising Taylor can you point to a time in your work life where you've come in to manage an underperforming team, many of whom have a misguided loyalty to a previous manager who allowed them to live 160 miles away and organised training accordingly? Once you've done that please explain who with immediate effect you had them performing in such a way that they smashing KPIs quicker than competitors with better facilities and a more skilled workforce.Or tell us the time when you had to recruit 75% of a new team, many of whom had to relocate for the job and within 6 weeks had them outperforming competitors with better facilities and a more skilled and settled work force. If come March we're in severe manager of relegation than maybe we have to break glass in emergency and get a Warnock type figure in go preserve our status, but until then talk of MT moving on is quite frankly insane. Where's your evidence the players had a misguided loyalty to the previous manager? They were hardly performing for him so all MT had to do was not rattle any cages and try and squeeze some better performances out of them before he could change things in the summer, instead he seemed to go for the sledge hammer approach and destroyed moral totally, some of press outbursts, were hardly going to build bridges. We can all accept it'll take time to get the players performing to their full potential but instead of making slow progress the first 20 mins at Barnsley and last 70 mins on Saturday were right back to last season's poor performances . The biggest under performers this season have been Taylor, Thomas, Ward & McCormack, the likes of Mola, Moore & PC have all been playing OK, so relocation doesn't seem that bigger an issue. Let's face it Barton was divisive character, I imagine some players were secretly popping the champagne corks when he left, but reading between the lines he seemed popular with the core group; we had Roadman (who love him or hate him clearly has contacts within the game) alleged how he was happy to adapt training for the Northern lads (I'm sure a few players alluded to this in interviews. As for your comments on individual players; Taylor and Ward have barely had a pre-season, Thomas is playing out of position and for my money against Cambridge and Northampton he was in our top 3 performers, McCormick has been no worse than he was last season he's just a league 2 player we got catfished into paying over the odds for because he was just about the star player in arguably the worst ever Rovers team in history whilst on loan.
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Post by buktaboy on Sept 19, 2024 7:12:09 GMT
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Post by SleepyGas on Sept 19, 2024 8:36:53 GMT
So this whole thread was a load of nonsense. Glad I didn't waste time reading it
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Post by lympstonegas on Sept 19, 2024 9:08:41 GMT
Let the haters hate
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Post by neilv93 on Sept 19, 2024 9:22:26 GMT
It was "his team" after he took over as manager of the football club and the results AND performances since then have been appalling. Tactically inept and I'm not even sure what are we good at under Taylor? Just purely out of my own interest, where do you get this data from? I find limited info on L1/Gas on the likes of fbref, understat, markstats etc.
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Post by neilv93 on Sept 19, 2024 9:28:30 GMT
This thread clearly shows who lives in the real world and who lives at home with their mum doing everything for them, whilst they play football manager. For those criticising Taylor can you point to a time in your work life where you've come in to manage an underperforming team, many of whom have a misguided loyalty to a previous manager who allowed them to live 160 miles away and organised training accordingly? Once you've done that please explain who with immediate effect you had them performing in such a way that they smashing KPIs quicker than competitors with better facilities and a more skilled workforce. Or tell us the time when you had to recruit 75% of a new team, many of whom had to relocate for the job and within 6 weeks had them outperforming competitors with better facilities and a more skilled and settled work force. If come March we're in severe manager of relegation than maybe we have to break glass in emergency and get a Warnock type figure in go preserve our status, but until then talk of MT moving on is quite frankly insane. Excellent post, bang on.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Sept 19, 2024 14:57:26 GMT
So this whole thread was a load of nonsense. Glad I didn't waste time reading it Ditto!
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Post by pirate on Sept 19, 2024 17:08:18 GMT
It was "his team" after he took over as manager of the football club and the results AND performances since then have been appalling. Tactically inept and I'm not even sure what are we good at under Taylor? Just purely out of my own interest, where do you get this data from? I find limited info on L1/Gas on the likes of fbref, understat, markstats etc. Fotmob and Sofascore both decent and source their data from Opta.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 19, 2024 21:16:58 GMT
Schumacher sacked at Stoke.Probably end up back at Muff sooner rather than later. That's a ridiculously quick decision, unless he's fallen out with the owners over something. I'm sure there will be a vacancy for him soon at Plymouth, as you say. Rooney won't last long. Yes, a ridiculous decision at Stoke. I’m sure there will be a vacancy at Plymouth sometime soon. Not sure Schumacher will be taking it though. Pretty sure he won’t go back. There will be plenty of vacancies up north. UTG!
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Post by pirate on Sept 20, 2024 8:39:42 GMT
Rob Elliot carrying on the good job that Williamson did at Gateshead.
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