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Post by igotgas on Sept 20, 2024 11:09:14 GMT
Appreciate your blessing. š
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Post by lastminutewinner on Sept 20, 2024 11:14:58 GMT
I said this yesterday from watching the training video. Shaw will start. Garrett Hutchinson Ward McCormack Thomas Will all be left out. MT has lost his head. Talks about patience, time, developing partnerships and building relationships - for all areas other than midfield it seems. 6 games in and weāve already seen :- Ward Conteh Hutchinson Ward Garrett Conteh McCormick Garret Ward Conteh Garrett Hutchinson Not to mention continuous substitutions on the hour mark chopping and changing one of the above with Shaw, Lindsay, McCormick, Garret. Iām not sure but I think I can safely say the same midfield havenāt completed more than 60 continuous minutes together yetā¦..and that includes pre season!!!! Itās a mess. He should be 6/7 games in now with a pretty settled idea of whatās working not still throwing sh!t at a fan!!! No wonder it doesnāt look or feel functional. Heās spent a lot of money and after 6 games heās resorted to playing the kid out the youth teamā¦.. I agree with the theory above, I think Shaw has attracted attention and on a pro deal his value will soar if he has first team minutes under his belt and itāll be a good pay day . It worries me. He looked naive at best in his two appearances so far and Peterborough away wonāt be shyā¦.No more naive than anyone else who has played in our midfield so far. |
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Post by percy on Sept 20, 2024 11:21:19 GMT
Difficult to play the same midfield with injuries (Ward) and international duty (Conteh)
Agree we need to quickly find our best 3. Conteh for sure, hopefully he is 100% tomorrow. I think Lindsay will take the other more defensive position. Need the other to be more creative. Hopefully Hutch will become that quickly, but whilst he isnt, then we will see others tried.
Also, the energetic press MT wants to play will result in midfielders being subbed.
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Post by igotgas on Sept 20, 2024 12:42:27 GMT
]No more naive than anyone else who has played in our midfield so far.Ā Iām sorry but thatās just nonsense. I worry tomorrow because surely MT has set a marker and if Kofi or the score line is anything similar to last week at half time then how does that reflect on a 17 year old and how would he recover from being dragged off after 45 mins ? |
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Sept 20, 2024 13:18:07 GMT
Be nice to go there and get a result. Can't stand the "we always lose there" attitude, how about we don't do that. After 60+ years we finally got a win at the Valley , so it can happen. Sadly think Posh will do us tomorrow based on 11v11 |
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Post by bathtubpirate on Sept 20, 2024 13:58:28 GMT
This is incorrect. He is actually quoted as saying "We don't expect him to feature in the near-future" which is very different. Sorry if my memory let me down with one single word, regardless the clear indication is he's now fit but still won't be considered. Although I wouldn't be surprised with both Moore and Senior now missing he backs tracks on that comment. Easily done but changes the meaning completely. There's been a lot of nonsense on here recently, it's worth double checking when making such strong statements. Perhaps it means he is now fit but not up to speed with our new formation / way of working. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Sept 20, 2024 14:11:02 GMT
]No more naive than anyone else who has played in our midfield so far. Iām sorry but thatās just nonsense. I worry tomorrow because surely MT has set a marker and if Kofi or the score line is anything similar to last week at half time then how does that reflect on a 17 year old and how would he recover from being dragged off after 45 mins ? You are suggesting we don't play him simply due to his age. That's nonsense. Even 15/16 year olds are being played regularly in top major leagues and international games these days. As you said before, no combination in midfield has worked yet. We are running out of options. He could quite easily get MOTM, if it goes the other way he will learn from it. |
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Post by igotgas on Sept 20, 2024 14:34:37 GMT
You are suggesting we don't play him simply due to his age. That's nonsense. No I havenāt? I havenāt once said donāt play him due to his age. I donāt think heās good enough yet and I think the manager is chucking him in for other reasons and / or out of desperation and / or poor management. I also said itās a risky game because weāve seen already we potential for scorelines to get ugly and he set a bar last week but dragging people off at half time and if he does that to a 17 year old the damage is longer lasting. Even 15/16 year olds are being played regularly in top major leagues and international games these days No theyāre not. At least not on a regular basis. Donāt form an argument based on one or two extreme examples. The average age of a premier league debut is something like 26 and the average age of an EFL debut is 23. Some players may burst onto the scene and make a splash once in a blue moon and even less are managing to then do it regularly. As you said before, no combination in midfield has worked yet. We are running out of options. He could quite easily get MOTM, if it goes the other way he will learn from it No I didnāt said no midfield combination had worked. I said that the manager hasnāt given ANY of the midfield combos A CHANCE to work. 4/5 different combos in 7 games and subs around the hour mark in 5/6 of them means none of them have had a chance to play much beyond 60 mins at a time with the same players. A good manager has a good idea (bear in mind this is his own recruitment) of what his best side looks like and he works with them. He may change in game to suit situations and then he identifies what didnāt work and spends Monday to Friday trying to work on it. If after 5/6 games it hasnāt improved then he may try alternatives and see how he can improve things there, but to try every alternative he has within the first 6 games is mental. Really poor coaching ability. It would help if I could see some sort of identity but I canāt. We have no pattern and the plan seems to be, run around a lot and see what happens. Plan B is change the midfield and let them run around a lot and see what happens. Brain dead management. |
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Post by yattongas on Sept 20, 2024 14:37:55 GMT
You are suggesting we don't play him simply due to his age. That's nonsense. No I havenāt? I havenāt once said donāt play him due to his age. I donāt think heās good enough yet and I think the manager is chucking him in for other reasons and / or out of desperation and / or poor management. I also said itās a risky game because weāve seen already we potential for scorelines to get ugly and he set a bar last week but dragging people off at half time and if he does that to a 17 year old the damage is longer lasting. Even 15/16 year olds are being played regularly in top major leagues and international games these days No theyāre not. At least not on a regular basis. Donāt form an argument based on one or two extreme examples. The average age of a premier league debut is something like 26 and the average age of an EFL debut is 23. Some players may burst onto the scene and make a splash once in a blue moon and even less are managing to then do it regularly. As you said before, no combination in midfield has worked yet. We are running out of options. He could quite easily get MOTM, if it goes the other way he will learn from it No I didnāt said no midfield combination had worked. I said that the manager hasnāt given ANY of the midfield combos A CHANCE to work. 4/5 different combos in 7 games and subs around the hour mark in 5/6 of them means none of them have had a chance to play much beyond 60 mins at a time with the same players. A good manager has a good idea (bear in mind this is his own recruitment) of what his best side looks like and he works with them. He may change in game to suit situations and then he identifies what didnāt work and spends Monday to Friday trying to work on it. If after 5/6 games it hasnāt improved then he may try alternatives and see how he can improve things there, but to try every alternative he has within the first 6 games is mental. Really poor coaching ability. It would help if I could see some sort of identity but I canāt. We have no pattern and the plan seems to be, run around a lot and see what happens. Plan B is change the midfield and let them run around a lot and see what happens. Brain dead management. What are your coaching credentials out of interest? |
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Post by igotgas on Sept 20, 2024 14:43:52 GMT
Perhaps it means he is now fit but not up to speed with our new formation / way of working. What? š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ The only wing back in the squad not upto speed with the ānewā 352 formation we play all the time? And what is this ānewā way of working? š¤£ I tell what would be crazyā¦I donāt think LT starts tomorrow so if not Hunt, who plays RWB? A left footer? |
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Post by igotgas on Sept 20, 2024 14:49:33 GMT
What are your coaching credentials out of interest?Ā Does that matter? What are yours? Or anyone elseās on here? Do we have any A Licence coaches here? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 20, 2024 14:53:41 GMT
Perhaps it means he is now fit but not up to speed with our new formation / way of working. What? š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ The only wing back in the squad not upto speed with the ānewā 352 formation we play all the time? And what is this ānewā way of working? š¤£ I tell what would be crazyā¦I donāt think LT starts tomorrow so if not Hunt, who plays RWB? A left footer? LT is the only fully fit RWB or even RB, we've no real idea what's going on with Hunt, I can't see him in the latest Quarters training video, so perhaps he's not even training with the 1st team squad? As far midfield MT's not been helped by injuries to Lindsay and Ward, international call up for Conteh, and Hutch also taking time to find his feet. Shaw also disappeared last weekend? |
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Post by yattongas on Sept 20, 2024 14:59:22 GMT
What are your coaching credentials out of interest? Does that matter? What are yours? Or anyone elseās on here? Do we have any A Licence coaches here? Itās just you speak with such assurity that Taylor hasnāt got a clue what heās doing and heās been in professional football for yrs. š |
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Post by igotgas on Sept 20, 2024 15:05:11 GMT
What? š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ The only wing back in the squad not upto speed with the ānewā 352 formation we play all the time? And what is this ānewā way of working? š¤£ I tell what would be crazyā¦I donāt think LT starts tomorrow so if not Hunt, who plays RWB? A left footer? LT is the only fully fit RWB or even RB, we've no real idea what's going on with Hunt, I can't see him in the latest Quarters training video, so perhaps he's not even training with the 1st team squad? As far midfield MT's not been helped by injuries to Lindsay and Ward, international call up for Conteh, and Hutch also taking time to find his feet. Shaw also disappeared last weekend? This is what I mean. I understand Conteh but it was only 1 game. Lindsay wouldāve been my choice ahead of ward all day long so maybe that affected things a little but itās just got messy. Too many players in the side then on the bench the next and then out the squad only to be back in the sideā¦. I also think weāre over-egging the āHutchinson taking time to adaptā excuse too. Just get on with it. We paid money for a goalscoring midfielder and we donāt have any others so just let him get on with it, if he isnt good enough to adapt then serious questions should be aimed at recruitment and MT for it. |
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Post by igotgas on Sept 20, 2024 15:06:09 GMT
Does that matter? What are yours? Or anyone elseās on here? Do we have any A Licence coaches here? Itās just you speak with such assurity that Taylor hasnāt got a clue what heās doing and heās been in professional football for yrs. š Pro football has more blaggers in it than any other industry. I donāt know if youāre familiar with the Peter Principle? Look it up. Iād suggest MT is a prime example. |
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Post by yattongas on Sept 20, 2024 15:32:12 GMT
Itās just you speak with such assurity that Taylor hasnāt got a clue what heās doing and heās been in professional football for yrs. š Pro football has more blaggers in it than any other industry. I donāt know if youāre familiar with the Peter Principle? Look it up. Iād suggest MT is a prime example. Hmmmm š¤ā¦ā¦ on balance Iāll take his judgement over yours thanks . š |
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Post by igotgas on Sept 20, 2024 15:43:06 GMT
Then theres really no point in a discussion forum is there?
We should all just take his judgement over any of ours and all clap along on a Saturday regardless of what we watch and listen to his mind numbing interviews where he tryās to sound a lot cleverer than he is demonstrating.
Btw he spent most of his career in non league and each foray into the pro game ended with a pretty quick release.
He headed and booted it a bit better than a few others thatās all.
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Post by yattongas on Sept 20, 2024 15:46:16 GMT
Then theres really no point in a discussion forum is there? We should all just take his judgement over any of ours and all clap along on a Saturday regardless of what we watch and listen to his mind numbing interviews where he tryās to sound a lot cleverer than he is demonstrating. Btw he spent most of his career in non league and each foray into the pro game ended with a pretty quick release. He headed and booted it a bit better than a few others thatās all. Youāre dismissing other peopleās views as nonsense, not me . šš |
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Post by igotgas on Sept 20, 2024 15:54:00 GMT
Then theres really no point in a discussion forum is there? We should all just take his judgement over any of ours and all clap along on a Saturday regardless of what we watch and listen to his mind numbing interviews where he tryās to sound a lot cleverer than he is demonstrating. Btw he spent most of his career in non league and each foray into the pro game ended with a pretty quick release. He headed and booted it a bit better than a few others thatās all. Youāre dismissing other peopleās views as nonsense, not me . šš Yes thatās the point!! I have a different opinionš¤¦āāļø Youāre suggesting someone (MT)is to be more valued an opinion and in turn ārightā, because he is an ex pro player! Managing is different to playing and now he has to manage people rather than play footballā¦.Peter Principleā¦.his old job (playing) has no relation to his current one (managing people). |
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Post by yattongas on Sept 20, 2024 16:02:46 GMT
Youāre dismissing other peopleās views as nonsense, not me . šš Yes thatās the point!! I have a different opinionš¤¦āāļø Youāre suggesting someone (MT)is to be more valued an opinion and in turn ārightā, because he is an ex pro player! Managing is different to playing and now he has to manage people rather than play footballā¦.Peter Principleā¦.his old job (playing) has no relation to his current one (managing people). Nonsense |
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