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Post by madridgas on Oct 8, 2024 20:08:50 GMT
Well an interesting evening
1) Yes, the side of squad players wasn't good enough, but i'm not overly surprised. We have a shaky defence normally and without Mola and Wilson starting that wasn't going to change, especially without Conteh, Ward or Lindsay in midfield.
2) In recent months I have read most posts and especially match reports. How many posters I haven't seen for a while came out to criticise MT
3) Roadman's recent articles are for me the greatest concern, as i'd expect agents and managers to be hearing this. If Wael is walking away and we sack MT, any manager wanting to improve his CV, or wanting to be able to bring in some of his own players, won't be interested in coming here under the current ownership.
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Post by igotgas on Oct 8, 2024 20:09:37 GMT
Pick half a team of players who haven’t kicked a ball for a few weeks….pick another half of players who have been playing but really find it quite humiliating to have to play in the BSM Trophy, shoehorn them into a formation that doesn’t suit the players playing, put them out against a hungry league two side looking for a morale boosting victory then go and sit upstairs so you don’t get your hair wet or appear culpable.
Top work 👍👍
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Post by pirate on Oct 8, 2024 20:10:41 GMT
Biggest defeat to Swindon since 26 December 1913.
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Post by madridgas on Oct 8, 2024 20:12:22 GMT
Tonight sums up Taylor perfectly. Picks three youth players on the bench tonight and doesn’t have the decency to give any of them a runout and perseveres to the end with the likes of McCormick, Thomas, Garrett etc etc etc who were all absolute sh**e for ninety minutes. Not sure putting any of the three youth players on when 4-0 down would have done anything for their confidence. Shaw will have learnt from tonight, and MT will have learnt more about Shaw. |
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Post by mrgasman on Oct 8, 2024 20:14:08 GMT
Biggest defeat to Swindon since 26 December 1913. At least records are being broken ✌️ |
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Post by Gas-Ed on Oct 8, 2024 20:17:59 GMT
Good hustle, Gas.
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Post by bluegas on Oct 8, 2024 20:24:12 GMT
Is the great man going to grace us on the radio?
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 8, 2024 20:30:23 GMT
Pick half a team of players who haven’t kicked a ball for a few weeks….pick another half of players who have been playing but really find it quite humiliating to have to play in the BSM Trophy, shoehorn them into a formation that doesn’t suit the players playing, put them out against a hungry league two side looking for a morale boosting victory then go and sit upstairs so you don’t get your hair wet or appear culpable. Top work 👍👍 It sounded like Swindon had a number of Academy players in their side, not sure we had any apart from possibly Shaw. You'd have thought after winning tow games and being just 3 pts off the play offs there would be a buzz around the club and players would be busting a gut tonight to try and get into the first team squad. MT does seem to stifling the life out of the club like he apparently did at Rotherham and I doubt he had the owner there trying to be DMc Mk2. |
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Oct 8, 2024 20:30:50 GMT
I was just responding to the other post but Hutch set the ball rolling with his hospital pass for the first goal. Plus unlike the rest tonight he cost us £250K he's now making Nichols look a bargain at £350K. Manager never knew who he even was, Abdul did the deal because he’s swallowed a Darren MacAthoney book and this is us now. Couple of differences though, he has the best lower league DOF next to him in Barry Fry and a manager who wouldn’t accept being told who to play. I'm not disputing what you've said, you clearly have contacts within the game but didn't MT say the only player he didn't present to was Forde ? I just find it hard to believe the club are signing players the manager doesn't necessarily want. If that's the case is it any wonder everything seems so chaotic |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 8, 2024 20:33:31 GMT
Guessing everyone is happy as nobody wanted us in this cup and not only have we gone out…..we’ve gone out in style ! UTFG 😃👍
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Post by bidefordgas on Oct 8, 2024 20:37:52 GMT
Tonight sums up Taylor perfectly. Picks three youth players on the bench tonight and doesn’t have the decency to give any of them a runout and perseveres to the end with the likes of McCormick, Thomas, Garrett etc etc etc who were all absolute sh**e for ninety minutes. Not sure putting any of the three youth players on when 4-0 down would have done anything for their confidence. Shaw will have learnt from tonight, and MT will have learnt more about Shaw. Any decent manager would already have told the young lads your in the squad, do your best if called upon and no need to worry. If what you say is the case why not just have put all Saturdays bench/starters in the squad tonight knowing you can only bring 5 of them on. |
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Post by devonwhite9 on Oct 8, 2024 20:42:56 GMT
If the owner's son is buying the players then where do the Director of Football and Head of Recruitment fit in? Had either of them heard of Hutchinson? Do they have any connection with the manager or any say in directing football or recruitment? How good are Hutchinson's ratings on the Kuwaiti version of Championship Manager? Were they playing an old version and thought they were signing Don Hutchinson who was a useful ACM? Does Taylor know who Hutchinson is now or is he still not quite sure?
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 8, 2024 20:46:51 GMT
Not sure putting any of the three youth players on when 4-0 down would have done anything for their confidence. Shaw will have learnt from tonight, and MT will have learnt more about Shaw. Any decent manager would already have told the young lads your in the squad, do your best if called upon and no need to worry. If what you say is the case why not just have put all Saturdays bench/starters in the squad tonight knowing you can only bring 5 of them on. So what would have happened it they'd all come on and we'd conceded 3 or 4 more goals, would it have done their confidence any good to play in one of our worse defeats in recent times? Plus would such a loss put MT's job even more on the line given you were already calling for his dismissal at 4-0? |
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Post by justin blue on Oct 8, 2024 20:52:45 GMT
Mickey Mouse cup who cares?. Win our next league game and it’ll all be forgotten.
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Post by bidefordgas on Oct 8, 2024 21:00:22 GMT
Any decent manager would already have told the young lads your in the squad, do your best if called upon and no need to worry. If what you say is the case why not just have put all Saturdays bench/starters in the squad tonight knowing you can only bring 5 of them on. So what would have happened it they'd all come on and we'd conceded 3 or 4 more goals, would it have done their confidence any good to play in one of our worse defeats in recent times? Plus would such a loss put MT's job even more on the line given you were already calling for his dismissal at 4-0? So if that’s the case MT was trying to avoid an even heavier defeat and the sack by keeping on all the players who had conceded the three goals. The confidence of the players on the pitch was clearly shot by halftime so why keep them on? Just face up to the facts since MT has been our manager and his previous Rotherham stint. He is simply not good enough, he has now had 13 games this season, his record is hardly cause for optimism. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 8, 2024 21:00:23 GMT
If the owner's son is buying the players then where do the Director of Football and Head of Recruitment fit in? Had either of them heard of Hutchinson? Do they have any connection with the manager or any say in directing football or recruitment? How good are Hutchinson's ratings on the Kuwaiti version of Championship Manager? Were they playing an old version and thought they were signing Don Hutchinson who was a useful ACM? Does Taylor know who Hutchinson is now or is he still not quite sure? Does anybody know how deals are actually agreed at Rovers? From the last Q&A the VP attended the impression given was that TG & the VP were heavily involved in the JCH transfer talks and that JB & EJ had no involvement, we also know Wael was apparently texting DMc on transfer deadline day. As it always been the norm at Rovers that somebody in the VP's position deals with the transfer negotiations and not the DoF/DoR? I doubt TW did it when he was in the role? It seems the VP has simply replaced TG/MS/SH as head negotiator, I'm not sure he can do any worse than those three nor why Roadman gets so offended by him doing the role, after all somebody as to do it at the club. We all knew GF wasn't Barry Fry but he can't be any worse than Eddie Jennings. |
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Post by roadman on Oct 8, 2024 21:01:17 GMT
Manager never knew who he even was, Abdul did the deal because he’s swallowed a Darren MacAthoney book and this is us now. Couple of differences though, he has the best lower league DOF next to him in Barry Fry and a manager who wouldn’t accept being told who to play. I'm not disputing what you've said, you clearly have contacts within the game but didn't MT say the only player he didn't present to was Forde ? I just find it hard to believe the club are signing players the manager doesn't necessarily want. If that's the case is it any wonder everything seems so chaotic No player is going to sign for a club without meeting his boss unless the player is at the elite end of the game and on the £80,000 plus a year category. We have gone the European (originally) route and now one which the likes of Liverpool use. The manager usually says I want this, this and this from a player………..example, I want a CDM with great interception stats who can run 14km a game. Now I look at us, I am told we have been set up from day one to be a side with two CDM’s and one going advanced for the press. But I can’t work out why we signed Garratt and Hutchinson? We have 3 CDM’s, Conteh, Ward, and Lindsay. The manager wanted Hunt all summer as part of his plans, we wanted him off the wage bill. I am told he was willing to try and get the best out of Jevani Brown but being the highest paid player at the club on £7k a week, we wanted him gone. Look at the picture and tell me you can’t see we have problems………26 year old from Kuwait running the club and reporting to his Father. 40% owner preferring to go in the away end and promote this midweek before the game and buy everyone beers. 35 year old DOF first time in job, never even worked at a club before outside of playing. Scout who helped pick the players for the previous manager. Manager who had a decade at his previous club with a lot of control and best mate Perryman as DOF. Now the manager who was recently sacked is working with the fore mentioned, you couldn’t make it up. Look at Posh, Darragh MacAnthony bought them in 2006, Barry Fry been in the game over 50 years. Ferguson managed at our level for many years and his Father to lean on. We have tried to be Posh in 5 minutes with people never ever proven in the job before. |
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Post by roadman on Oct 8, 2024 21:09:35 GMT
I will also add, when they first came in, they were all together on the pitch at Charlton. Pictures in the taxi together on the way to games, Gorringe gone, major shareholder going in away end now, star this one, it’s a goodbye tour, I’m convinced of it.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Oct 8, 2024 21:16:51 GMT
I'm not disputing what you've said, you clearly have contacts within the game but didn't MT say the only player he didn't present to was Forde ? I just find it hard to believe the club are signing players the manager doesn't necessarily want. If that's the case is it any wonder everything seems so chaotic No player is going to sign for a club without meeting his boss unless the player is at the elite end of the game and on the £80,000 plus a year category. We have gone the European (originally) route and now one which the likes of Liverpool use. The manager usually says I want this, this and this from a player………..example, I want a CDM with great interception stats who can run 14km a game. Now I look at us, I am told we have been set up from day one to be a side with two CDM’s and one going advanced for the press. But I can’t work out why we signed Garratt and Hutchinson? We have 3 CDM’s, Conteh, Ward, and Lindsay. The manager wanted Hunt all summer as part of his plans, we wanted him off the wage bill. I am told he was willing to try and get the best out of Jevani Brown but being the highest paid player at the club on £7k a week, we wanted him gone. Look at the picture and tell me you can’t see we have problems………26 year old from Kuwait running the club and reporting to his Father. 40% owner preferring to go in the away end and promote this midweek before the game and buy everyone beers. 35 year old DOF first time in job, never even worked at a club before outside of playing. Scout who helped pick the players for the previous manager. Manager who had a decade at his previous club with a lot of control and best mate Perryman as DOF. Now the manager who was recently sacked is working with the fore mentioned, you couldn’t make it up. Look at Posh, Darragh MacAnthony bought them in 2006, Barry Fry been in the game over 50 years. Ferguson managed at our level for many years and his Father to lean on. We have tried to be Posh in 5 minutes with people never ever proven in the job before. I'd agree we have problems, everything seems so chaotic. I don't think we have any recognisable style of play & I genuinely don't think MT knows his best 11. I've no idea whats going on behind the scenes but reading your post it's little wonder there doesn't appear to be any stability, from the outside it looks a complete mess |
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Post by Colyton Gas on Oct 8, 2024 21:28:19 GMT
Recall a visiting Radio Stoke commentator from Port Vale on his first visit said how 'None of the stands here match and the one opposite is like a cricket pavilion.
That was 15 years ago!!!!!!! Rather sums Rovers up our mish mash of a ground all these years later.
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