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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 18, 2024 18:59:16 GMT
Not if you're giving them free tickets. I didn't mention ticket revenue? Spectators through the turnstiles equals increased revenue elsewhere in and around the stadium for the club. It also attracts fans who wouldn't otherwise attend and even if only a few decide to come back for league matches thereafter that's future money for the club. Money is after all what seems to be driving these new owners. They only seem to look for the short term fixes. Wouldn't it be nice if for just one game this season we could try and fill our stadium with a packed family friendly atmosphere against a local club. Would also benefit wsm. We won't be filling it under Taylor in the league this season that's for certain. Why are fans suddenly going to turn up for an FA Cup R1 game? Like with the EFL Trophy the Premiership clubs have killed off interest in the FA Cup. Tickets are already cheap as chips anyway compared to other forms of entertainment if families do want to watch the match in numbers. |
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Post by meldrew on Oct 18, 2024 19:16:34 GMT
This club is slowly going down the tubes. What have the season ticket holders in the East stand have to do to watch this match. How dare the owners think that because we are playing a non league club that regular supporters do not want to attend. I am becoming increasingly sick of decisions like this that will drive away regular, faithful fans who are forced to find another place in the stadium to watch the game. The mind bloody boggles.
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Post by baggins on Oct 18, 2024 19:25:02 GMT
This club is slowly going down the tubes. What have the season ticket holders in the East stand have to do to watch this match. How dare the owners think that because we are playing a non league club that regular supporters do not want to attend. I am becoming increasingly sick of decisions like this that will drive away regular, faithful fans who are forced to find another place in the stadium to watch the game. The mind bloody boggles. No East Stand for this one? |
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Post by meldrew on Oct 18, 2024 19:34:26 GMT
That's how I read it. If I'm wrong, please tell me and I will withdraw what I said. The statement out out by the club is not very clear.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 18, 2024 19:54:45 GMT
This club is slowly going down the tubes. What have the season ticket holders in the East stand have to do to watch this match. How dare the owners think that because we are playing a non league club that regular supporters do not want to attend. I am becoming increasingly sick of decisions like this that will drive away regular, faithful fans who are forced to find another place in the stadium to watch the game. The mind bloody boggles. It's hardly a new move the club have been closing various parts of the stadium for cup games for a few seasons, perhaps you missed those after you returned your season ticket during when JB was appointed? What logic is there in the club paying stewards etc for partially filled stands as fans have only got themselves to blame for not turning up for cup games in previous seasons, we had less than 5,000 fans when we played our last home game in R1 v Rochdale. |
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Post by keygas on Oct 18, 2024 20:01:30 GMT
If we were playing any other non-side I could understand the club closing parts of the ground to save costs, but judging by the number of posts I’ve seen on various Rovers social media sites of people asking when are the Weston cup tickets going on sale, i think they have underestimated the interest in this local tie, especially when the match draws closer & local media start building the game up.
Perhaps close the East terrace, but to close the East stand which is usually occupied by around 80% season-ticket holders, seems unwarranted.
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Post by meldrew on Oct 18, 2024 20:01:56 GMT
Returning my season ticket has nothing to do with my view on looking after regular fans.As a famous American president once said, "You can fool some of the people some of the time and you can fool most of the people most of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Regular fans should be rewarded with understanding by the club not treated as cash cows.
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Post by eric on Oct 18, 2024 20:25:28 GMT
Only half the stadium open for this then. Disappointing was hoping we could get a decent crowd in. If the club has no interest in making any effort for this fixture I don’t think I’ll bother making the effort either. The way it’s being managed will kill any hope of an atmosphere for what could have been a fun fixture and one which could have been used to encourage some new faces. Just bizarre. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 18, 2024 20:51:22 GMT
Only half the stadium open for this then. Disappointing was hoping we could get a decent crowd in. If the club has no interest in making any effort for this fixture I don’t think I’ll bother making the effort either. The way it’s being managed will kill any hope of an atmosphere for what could have been a fun fixture and one which could have been used to encourage some new faces. Just bizarre. It's total make believe land that there's 100's of fans just sat waiting for cheap cup tickets to watch their first Rovers game. Those fans are more likely to turn up when we were charging full price for the likes of Wrexham and Birmingham City. |
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Post by eric on Oct 18, 2024 21:24:35 GMT
If the club has no interest in making any effort for this fixture I don’t think I’ll bother making the effort either. The way it’s being managed will kill any hope of an atmosphere for what could have been a fun fixture and one which could have been used to encourage some new faces. Just bizarre. It's total make believe land that there's 100's of fans just sat waiting for cheap cup tickets to watch their first Rovers game. Those fans are more likely to turn up when we were charging full price for the likes of Wrexham and Birmingham City. I really don’t know whether you genuinely believe anything that you say on this forum or whether you just spend your time searching for arguments. Anyway I’ll play along and question whether the club should just give up on trying to entice more Bristolian kids to the Mem? When would be better than a cup game against a local non league side. The way they are managing the fixture they are also likely to lose regulars for this game who would normally go but don’t fancy it if they are forced to decamp from their normal part of the ground or don’t fancy watching an atmosphere-less game that’s played in a partially open ground. It will have the feel of a pre-season friendly or testimonial. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 18, 2024 21:34:32 GMT
Under 14 prices are as cheap as £1, what else can the club do to entice young fans?
Under Wael the club brought in the policy of closing parts of the ground for cup games, so the owners can really be criticised for that decision.
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Post by yattongas on Oct 18, 2024 21:34:35 GMT
It's total make believe land that there's 100's of fans just sat waiting for cheap cup tickets to watch their first Rovers game. Those fans are more likely to turn up when we were charging full price for the likes of Wrexham and Birmingham City. I really don’t know whether you genuinely believe anything that you say on this forum or whether you just spend your time searching for arguments. Anyway I’ll play along and question whether the club should just give up on trying to entice more Bristolian kids to the Mem? When would be better than a cup game against a local non league side. The way they are managing the fixture they are also likely to lose regulars for this game who would normally go but don’t fancy it if they are forced to decamp from their normal part of the ground or don’t fancy watching an atmosphere-less game that’s played in a partially open ground. It will have the feel of a pre-season friendly or testimonial. Decamping to a different part of the stadium ? Not a problem for 99% 1/4 of the ground closed…. sh**e . Genuinely think if marketed and priced right we could sell 8-9k |
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Post by wallywalters on Oct 19, 2024 6:42:56 GMT
If the club has no interest in making any effort for this fixture I don’t think I’ll bother making the effort either. The way it’s being managed will kill any hope of an atmosphere for what could have been a fun fixture and one which could have been used to encourage some new faces. Just bizarre. It's total make believe land that there's 100's of fans just sat waiting for cheap cup tickets to watch their first Rovers game. Those fans are more likely to turn up when we were charging full price for the likes of Wrexham and Birmingham City. Thats exactly the kind of attitude that has left us with a dwindling fan base and the loss of thousands future of young gasheads to the red side over the last 20 years. Extremely poor short term vision from the owners again but don't worry we're doing it the man city way. 🫣 |
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 19, 2024 7:11:12 GMT
If the club has no interest in making any effort for this fixture I don’t think I’ll bother making the effort either. The way it’s being managed will kill any hope of an atmosphere for what could have been a fun fixture and one which could have been used to encourage some new faces. Just bizarre. It's total make believe land that there's 100's of fans just sat waiting for cheap cup tickets to watch their first Rovers game. Those fans are more likely to turn up when we were charging full price for the likes of Wrexham and Birmingham City. I don't see it that way. There's a possibility that hundreds of people from WSM would be interested to watch their home town club play against a local professional club. WSM get around 1k fans to games right? Surely most of those will be looking to make the short trip and probably drag a +1 along for the ride. Of those, our club should be making g them welcome, putting on a show and generating interest in BRFC so that a % of them may want to watch us again. It's really basic sales and marketing stuff into a local audience. There will also be plenty of Bristolians who are from WSM who dont normally attend games. Plus friends, family and associates of players past or present from WSM who will cherish the tie. Our lack of imagination for such basic things sees us in the tragic state we are currently in. |
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Post by Gassy on Oct 19, 2024 7:25:34 GMT
I understand what people are saying, but if the club sells 5,000 tickets with 2 weeks to go, they’re hardly going to keep it to 2 stands are they?
The final attendance figure will tell us whether they’re actually right or wrong.
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Post by eric on Oct 19, 2024 7:27:03 GMT
Under 14 prices are as cheap as £1, what else can the club do to entice young fans? Under Wael the club brought in the policy of closing parts of the ground for cup games, so the owners can really be criticised for that decision. Make the W-S-M game a designated kids/family friendly game. Get the manager and Adam Tutton interviewed on local tv and radio. Get it out on all social media channels. Get the players out to visit all the local schools in the two weeks before the fixture. Get the marketing team to put a flyer together and ask the schools to email it out to all the parents. Ask the GFA to forward on to all local junior teams for them to share with the parents. Instead of closing the East Stand and Terrace make it one designated family area for the day (I’m sure ST holders won’t mind if they can see losing their usual spot for one game is for the long term wellbeing of the club). Get some of the kids involved at half-time on the pitch - penalties v the mascot? Make the fanzone more family friendly with the entertainment geared towards kids and more kid friendly food and treat options for the day? You never know - some will become gasheads and visit again, some may even become ST holders in the short or longer term? If we play a strong team, put on a good performance and score plenty of goals they will remember that day. Most fans remember their first game and that they wanted to come back. If we got a few extra thousand newbies in the club will make money on the day. Maybe not so much in ticket revenue but kids will want to visit the shop, them and their parents have something to eat and drink etc…., Instead we’ve just given up on the fixture and been lazy - has anyone at the club even put 5 minutes thought in to what they could do? The message they are sending out is it’s not important, the ground will be a ghost town and will be an atmosphere-less stadium. In this type of environment it might be better to scrap the quid a kid as it will probably put them off for life !!! |
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Post by Gassy on Oct 19, 2024 8:50:07 GMT
Under 14 prices are as cheap as £1, what else can the club do to entice young fans? Under Wael the club brought in the policy of closing parts of the ground for cup games, so the owners can really be criticised for that decision. Make the W-S-M game a designated kids/family friendly game. Get the manager and Adam Tutton interviewed on local tv and radio. Get it out on all social media channels. Get the players out to visit all the local schools in the two weeks before the fixture. Get the marketing team to put a flyer together and ask the schools to email it out to all the parents. Ask the GFA to forward on to all local junior teams for them to share with the parents. Instead of closing the East Stand and Terrace make it one designated family area for the day (I’m sure ST holders won’t mind if they can see losing their usual spot for one game is for the long term wellbeing of the club). Get some of the kids involved at half-time on the pitch - penalties v the mascot? Make the fanzone more family friendly with the entertainment geared towards kids and more kid friendly food and treat options for the day? You never know - some will become gasheads and visit again, some may even become ST holders in the short or longer term? If we play a strong team, put on a good performance and score plenty of goals they will remember that day. Most fans remember their first game and that they wanted to come back. If we got a few extra thousand newbies in the club will make money on the day. Maybe not so much in ticket revenue but kids will want to visit the shop, them and their parents have something to eat and drink etc…., Instead we’ve just given up on the fixture and been lazy - has anyone at the club even put 5 minutes thought in to what they could do? The message they are sending out is it’s not important, the ground will be a ghost town and will be an atmosphere-less stadium. In this type of environment it might be better to scrap the quid a kid as it will probably put them off for life !!! I think the problem is we have owners who don't really care about the long term viability of the fanbase anymore. It seems like their interest is in making some money in transfers rather than generating the pennies (in comparison) via shop sales. A question for those who live in the area, does the club still visit schools? When I was a kid in the 90s the club used to come at least once a year to hold PE lessons, special training sessions or just to visit. A coach was always there and usually a player or 2 |
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 19, 2024 9:57:11 GMT
Make the W-S-M game a designated kids/family friendly game. Get the manager and Adam Tutton interviewed on local tv and radio. Get it out on all social media channels. Get the players out to visit all the local schools in the two weeks before the fixture. Get the marketing team to put a flyer together and ask the schools to email it out to all the parents. Ask the GFA to forward on to all local junior teams for them to share with the parents. Instead of closing the East Stand and Terrace make it one designated family area for the day (I’m sure ST holders won’t mind if they can see losing their usual spot for one game is for the long term wellbeing of the club). Get some of the kids involved at half-time on the pitch - penalties v the mascot? Make the fanzone more family friendly with the entertainment geared towards kids and more kid friendly food and treat options for the day? You never know - some will become gasheads and visit again, some may even become ST holders in the short or longer term? If we play a strong team, put on a good performance and score plenty of goals they will remember that day. Most fans remember their first game and that they wanted to come back. If we got a few extra thousand newbies in the club will make money on the day. Maybe not so much in ticket revenue but kids will want to visit the shop, them and their parents have something to eat and drink etc…., Instead we’ve just given up on the fixture and been lazy - has anyone at the club even put 5 minutes thought in to what they could do? The message they are sending out is it’s not important, the ground will be a ghost town and will be an atmosphere-less stadium. In this type of environment it might be better to scrap the quid a kid as it will probably put them off for life !!! I think the problem is we have owners who don't really care about the long term viability of the fanbase anymore. It seems like their interest is in making some money in transfers rather than generating the pennies (in comparison) via shop sales. A question for those who live in the area, does the club still visit schools? When I was a kid in the 90s the club used to come at least once a year to hold PE lessons, special training sessions or just to visit. A coach was always there and usually a player or 2 The owners won't even know where Weston-super-Mare is. I suspect others at the club aren't overly bothered about educating them either. |
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Post by pirate on Oct 19, 2024 10:42:37 GMT
I think the problem is we have owners who don't really care about the long term viability of the fanbase anymore. It seems like their interest is in making some money in transfers rather than generating the pennies (in comparison) via shop sales. A question for those who live in the area, does the club still visit schools? When I was a kid in the 90s the club used to come at least once a year to hold PE lessons, special training sessions or just to visit. A coach was always there and usually a player or 2 The owners won't even know where Weston-super-Mare is. I suspect others at the club aren't overly bothered about educating them either.  |
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Post by wallywalters on Oct 19, 2024 10:47:53 GMT
I didn't mention ticket revenue? Spectators through the turnstiles equals increased revenue elsewhere in and around the stadium for the club. It also attracts fans who wouldn't otherwise attend and even if only a few decide to come back for league matches thereafter that's future money for the club. Money is after all what seems to be driving these new owners. They only seem to look for the short term fixes. You mentioned giving away free tickets. How much you reckon those with free tickets will spend in and around the Ground? Not much in the scheme of things is my guess and certainly won't cover the extra Stewarding costs. Not sure money is driving our Owners, seen the latest accounts? What was it, £3mil debt every year? And that South Stand wasn't cheap neither will the Ground development. It's not even solely about making money from this match although I stand by my comment that there is absolutely no way extra stranding will cost more than the amount the extra footfall will spend in and around the stadium. This is about growing this football club and it's future fanbase. Our attitude towards attracting children and future fans to watch us had been appalling for far too long now. We need to improve massively if we are to grow this football club and all the things mentioned in this thread and the other one about the wsm game are all simple, cheap things we can do to Improve that. The owners clearly don't give a sh*t about growing the fanbase they just assume we will all come along for the ride. Attendances this season are showing them how wrong that is. |
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