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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 13, 2016 21:09:46 GMT
Wouldn't go that far. Iceland game was worse for a start... To be honest, Slovenia aren't actually that bad. They always seem better than I expect them to be every time we play them. I bet the Slovenia manager says England always seem worse than I expect them to be every time we play them. I doubt it as it is only us that overrate ourselves. Everyone else knows we're average.
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 13, 2016 21:51:49 GMT
Does the next manager have to be an out and out football man?
What I mean is do we have to have someone with a football pedigree or could we have a tactician and man manager who has the support of good coaches on his staff. I recall a few years ago Clive Woodward being suggested after success with the rugby. Not necessarily him per se but an astute Chairman rather than a Chief Executive.
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Post by yategas78 on Oct 13, 2016 22:57:33 GMT
The England manager needs to be a bloody genius to get anything out of our national team I don't even bother to watch it on telly! They need to look at the championship and below and choose some players who would be proud to wear the shirt anyway who gives a toss we got the GAS to support UTG!!
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Post by yatetown85 on Oct 14, 2016 8:07:45 GMT
Well, Lingard and Walcott didn't bring anything to the party. Cahill...yes, there has to be someone better, plus at his age do we expect him to be around in two years time? Nope, he won't be, so what is the point of playing him. The same with Rooney. Walker and Rose play well for Spurs as they have a free licence to attack down the flanks. You put two wide men in front of them, and they cannot do what they do for Spurs. Their space is closed down and they are restricted. Delle Ali....give him a break. Remember he's only twenty. and why oh why do England players do that thing where they stop moving with the ball, step on the ball to stop it, and then expect to play a decent pass? It's a rare player than can make anything happen when they are stood still with the ball. I want to meet the coach who instructs players taking corners to pick out the first defender. It is not a skill, nor something to be admired. If they fail to pick out the first defender, they overhit to the far side of the penalty area. FFS, even at my age I could take better corners. I would beat that coach to death. and why oh why do England continually pass the ball across the back four, only to send it back the other way back to where they started. The commentator said something about England moving the ball to try and find an opening, when in reality it is so easy to defend as you just have to shift a couple of yards across everytime, and then just wait for a mistake, which with England players you just know will come. When you know the opposition will play just one up top, why oh why do you need a defensive midfield player to protect the back four? Just look at how the Germans lined-up last night against Northern Ireland. They had a full-on attacking midfield, as they assume the back-four should be able to deal with a lone striker. Ah, found a Spurs fan then! Lols Something else that annoys me, the lack of use of the U21 system! Why do we only play championship/not good enough players for the U21's? It's not a downgrade, it's a learning tool! For me Rashford, Lingaard, Stones etc etc should all be at the U21's, playing together, getting to know each other and gaining experience from an U21 Euro/World championship. There will be no pressure on them. Look at the 2009 German U21 team, it was amazing! Most of that team went on to win a World Cup!
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Post by chilly1883 on Oct 14, 2016 14:17:06 GMT
I was at the game, it's just become very boring to watch. Players have lost all confidence, I totally agree that the younger ones should be in u/21's, but the senior players are probably the worst offenders at the mo. Stability is needed, but I don't think southgate is the answer
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Post by socrates on Oct 14, 2016 21:57:19 GMT
They'd have to pay me to watch England live. I won free tickets in a 5- aside competition and didn't even bother collecting them. I've got no interest in getting stuck in traffic for hours to watch a bunch of gutless millionaires jog around for 90 minutes pretending to look bothered. There should be an FA rule that every England side has to spend time with a top sports psychologist during every get together for every match. One on one and as a team.
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