Brexit....again.

Or it is the selective use of those figures to prove a predetermined opinion.

This thread has taken a bit of an enigmatic Eric Cantona "seagulls following the trawler" turn.

Cod philosophy, if you like.

Hands up who agrees that we will end up with a single market, free movement agreement that we pay lots of money to be a part of, a condition of which is that we abide by EU principles and laws?

C'mon Oldie. You are no fool. Nobody ever said the NHS would get 350m a week......as for the demographic issue, isn't that a false argument as we are being told that technology will soon reduce the amount of people required to work?

He`s not exactly Nostradamus either, is he?
For all his talk of analytical ability, his ability to be wise comes some time after the event.   Just like the vast majority of people.

I thought the campaigns run by both sides, were dispiriting and pathetic.  And since?
What happened to the financial meltdown, that we were promised?  Did I fall asleep and miss the emergency budget that we were told would be unavoidable, immediately following an out vote?
Did anyone on the remain side predict that ten months after voting to leave, we`d have "record levels of employment."
Did they predict that the stock market would be at it`s highest level since the South Sea Bubble?
Ok, so the Pound is down some 20%, but that`s not universally a bad thing.  Part of the economy gains, part doesn`t.
Of course everything might still crash and burn but that`s a long long way from the position that Osbourne, Carney et al, took when they were trying to frighten us into remaining.   Nobody on the "in" side said that, on the whole, everything will be fine for the first year, but after that, it`s anyone`s guess.
It was armageddon now, that we were promised.
As for analytical ability, Les; well now`s your chance to show us what you can do.   Check out the data available, and tell us what happens over the next ten months.
Unemployment, up or down?
Stock market, up or down?
Sterling, up or down?

Might be cheaper

It was never going to be as bad as the Remain campaign suggested, and nor will it be as good as the Leave campaign said it will. The answer was always going to be somewhere in between which in turn depends on where you are in society and what your priorities are.

For some, it will be really good news, for others not. From what I can see, many felt the risk of being slightly worse off economically was worth the extra control. Whether the control is what was expected depends on how the divorce talks go. Over to you, Mrs May and Mr Davis.

You missed your calling, Oldie, you should have been a politician.
We all know, you`ve been doing your Senna the soothsayer impression ever since we voted to leave the EU.
Well, we`re now ten months down the line, and the catastrophe that we were warned was immediately inevitable, hasn`t happened.
You make a fair point.  There are worrying pressures on the economy.
Given that employment and the stock market are at record high levels, I wouldn`t have thought it was too difficult for you to let us know where they`d be in another ten months time.  Just so we could check, and see how clever you are.

I appreciate it is tongue in cheek, but the €100bn figure is from the FT not any EU source. From what I can tell only the €60bn figure has been used and even then unofficially.

The FT have taken a lot of assumptions and includes potential liabilities which may not come to pass. There was someone on the Daily Politics earlier today who said we have already signed up to €17bn over the next two years anyway, which would be our starting point. I would guess we would agree funding for these projects for the length of our next Parliament which would make it around €35-€40bn.

I do agree with your sentiment though, Article 50 supposedly states trade and finance should be discussed simultaneously and not consecutively as the Commission seems to want.

Perhaps we should say that we will pay once the accounts have been signed off....oops!