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Post by aghast on May 3, 2017 19:10:42 GMT
I don't remember reading much about the Brexit divorce bill in the campaigns of either Leave or Remain.
The CBI seem to be saying that €60bn is a price worth paying to guarantee a future trade deal.
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Post by stuart1974 on May 3, 2017 19:17:46 GMT
But you just know that no matter what we pay, they'll be back in a year or so for more. Not if they have signed off on it they couldn't. If they try to arbitrarily then we can take them to the ECJ, that thing we are trying to get out of. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 20:17:28 GMT
I don't remember reading much about the Brexit divorce bill in the campaigns of either Leave or Remain. The CBI seem to be saying that €60bn is a price worth paying to guarantee a future trade deal. And how much did China, the US, South Korea etc etc pay for access to this 'single market'? |
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Post by aghast on May 3, 2017 20:30:42 GMT
I don't remember reading much about the Brexit divorce bill in the campaigns of either Leave or Remain. The CBI seem to be saying that €60bn is a price worth paying to guarantee a future trade deal. And how much did China, the US, South Korea etc etc pay for access to this 'single market'? No idea Nobby. www.express.co.uk/news/uk/778522/Brexit-Carolyn-Fairbairn-EU-50bn-divorce-bilEdit. I could have quoted The Guardian, which had a much better article, but I don't want to be accused of using liberal lefty biased sources. |
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Post by stuart1974 on May 3, 2017 21:10:05 GMT
I don't remember reading much about the Brexit divorce bill in the campaigns of either Leave or Remain. The CBI seem to be saying that €60bn is a price worth paying to guarantee a future trade deal. And how much did China, the US, South Korea etc etc pay for access to this 'single market'? It varies, the US pays around 3% or slightly lower on average. ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/countries-and-regions/countries/united-states/index_en.htm |
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Post by stuart1974 on May 3, 2017 21:47:43 GMT
If there is no trade deal, we fall onto WTO rules. That could be 10% tariffs on some items for example or higher/lower depending on the item or if there is a quota after which tariffs come into play. It works both ways but our trade with the EU27 is greater in percentage terms that theirs with us. If it came to a trade war then we have more to lose in the short term, and don't forget, no trade deal in two years means WTO rules so the EU27 could stonewall in the hope we concede at the last minute to prevent this. Hence Mrs May's comment that a bad deal is worse than no deal. She may not mean it but politically she has to say it. www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/brexit-explained/brexit-explained-10-things-know-about-world-trade-organization-wto5. If the EU and UK cannot agree a deal, both will have to place tariffs on the other. A key principle of the WTO is that countries do not discriminate against one another. If the UK does not have a Free Trade Agreement (FTA) with the EU, the EU will have to treat the UK in the same way that it treats all other WTO members in that position, such as Russia, the US or Brazil. This means that EU tariffs would have to apply to the UK. It would be WTO-illegal for the EU not to place tariffs on the UK after Brexit if there was no FTA. The same is true on the UK side. If it wants to apply any tariffs on any country, these will also have to apply to the EU if there is no deal. |
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Post by stuart1974 on May 15, 2017 9:24:31 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on May 15, 2017 9:29:08 GMT
On a lighter note, following Jean Claude Juncker's quip about English not being as important in Europe any more, I see that during Eurovision all but 3 songs were sung in English or partly in English.
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Post by William Wilson on May 15, 2017 10:37:00 GMT
On a lighter note, following Jean Claude Juncker's quip about English not being as important in Europe any more, I see that during Eurovision all but 3 songs were sung in English or partly in English. On another lighter note; where`s Oldie, doing his Private Frazer impression? " We`re doomed, I tell you..doomed." |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 14:05:25 GMT
On a lighter note, following Jean Claude Juncker's quip about English not being as important in Europe any more, I see that during Eurovision all but 3 songs were sung in English or partly in English. On another lighter note; where`s Oldie, doing his Private Frazer impression? " We`re doomed, I tell you..doomed." Don't tell him Pike |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 15:36:07 GMT
The Labour Manifesto........I don't know whether to laugh or cry !
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Post by inee on May 16, 2017 22:58:22 GMT
On a lighter note, following Jean Claude Juncker's quip about English not being as important in Europe any more, I see that during Eurovision all but 3 songs were sung in English or partly in English. wrong way round, europe just isn't important to us  |
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Post by inee on May 16, 2017 22:58:57 GMT
On another lighter note; where`s Oldie, doing his Private Frazer impression? " We`re doomed, I tell you..doomed." Don't tell him Pike they don't like it up em |
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Post by stuart1974 on May 17, 2017 7:51:42 GMT
On a lighter note, following Jean Claude Juncker's quip about English not being as important in Europe any more, I see that during Eurovision all but 3 songs were sung in English or partly in English. wrong way round, europe just isn't important to us No one sang in German and only France sang in French (and English). Il est pueril, n'est pas? |
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Post by inee on May 18, 2017 21:01:58 GMT
er stu is that foreign talk you utter double dutch or something similar
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