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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 20:30:20 GMT
I hope everyone uses their vote otherwise it could be close. The thought of jezza and dizzy calling the shots is terrifying. Do I win a prize? Hugo? |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 9, 2017 20:53:20 GMT
I hope everyone uses their vote otherwise it could be close. The thought of jezza and dizzy calling the shots is terrifying. Do I win a prize? Hugo? Yeah, not bad. Not as great as me, but not bad.  |
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Post by William Wilson on Jun 10, 2017 7:00:24 GMT
I hope everyone uses their vote otherwise it could be close. The thought of jezza and dizzy calling the shots is terrifying. Do I win a prize? Hugo? Why would you want to win Hugo? Actually, I`d rather not know. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 10, 2017 8:54:32 GMT
Why would you want to win Hugo? Actually, I`d rather not know. I'm the gift that keeps on giving. |
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jun 10, 2017 10:00:00 GMT
and so............. The Labour Party has just collectively sh1t itself. I suspect that the Labour Manifesto will be one of the funniest documents of this year. The Lib Dems will attempt to turn the General Election into another Brexit vote. They are hoping that many of the 48% who voted to Remain will vote for them. UKIP will expand their vote, but still only have a couple of MP's. However, many in the past who voted UKIP may go back to voting Tory. I can't see any other result than a complete landslide for the Tories. How wrong could you be! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 13:14:56 GMT
Bloody Corbyn, siding with parties who opposed the Good Friday Agreement
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Post by pirate on Jun 10, 2017 23:13:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 5:56:54 GMT
It would be laughable, but its not funny
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 7:51:11 GMT
This thread has potential to dip to new depths.
Seems like a lot of the electorate are happy to point score without focusing on the overall goal.
We need a PM in government with the numbers to make decisions. Tezza has sought to do that. Jezzas past and the DUPs political agenda of the time should not really be used as a stick today. Otherwise how do we move forwards?
The Tory mentions of Jezzas past relate to his current policies of dialogue before anything else.
Now this dragging up of the DUPs past involvement is surely flawed since ironically, Jezzas great work helped to bring the parties together for talks and the start of the peace process. Therefore, why the issue with Tezza inviting the DUP and their handful of seats to complete the majority?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 13:29:35 GMT
This thread has potential to dip to new depths. Seems like a lot of the electorate are happy to point score without focusing on the overall goal. We need a PM in government with the numbers to make decisions. Tezza has sought to do that. Jezzas past and the DUPs political agenda of the time should not really be used as a stick today. Otherwise how do we move forwards? The Tory mentions of Jezzas past relate to his current policies of dialogue before anything else. Now this dragging up of the DUPs past involvement is surely flawed since ironically, Jezzas great work helped to bring the parties together for talks and the start of the peace process. Therefore, why the issue with Tezza inviting the DUP and their handful of seats to complete the majority? Because she has no mandate to do that, and involving the DUP in Westminster Government policy undermines the Good Friday Agreement. And, from a personal perspective they are social neanderthalls |
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Post by stevethepirate on Jun 11, 2017 14:31:27 GMT
Excuse me but that is unfair to Neanderthals.
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Post by peterparker on Jun 11, 2017 15:33:54 GMT
Carolibe Flint says
No it doesn't. Gordon Brown sought deals with DUP. There's lots of other reasons this deal won't work for May.
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Post by pirate on Jun 11, 2017 17:09:07 GMT
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jun 11, 2017 22:58:27 GMT
Basically UK politics is in an absolute sh*tstorm leading up to possibly the most important negotiations in post-war history.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 6:03:38 GMT
Basically UK politics is in an absolute sh*tstorm leading up to possibly the most important negotiations in post-war history. We are only in this position with the EU because of inept political leadership . All parties here. |
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Post by peterparker on Jun 12, 2017 7:16:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 7:45:53 GMT
Cherry Picking a bit, really |
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Post by peterparker on Jun 12, 2017 8:30:26 GMT
Cherry Picking a bit, really Maybe Cherry Picking, but I was having more of a look at the (unelected with even less of a mandate Theresa May) PM in waiting Jeremy Corbyn. found it interesting and odd that the man who wants to help the few, who wants to raise the minimum/living wage, voted against increasing the tax free threshold. Would he vote differently now?
I voted neither of the two main parties Les for the record, I am against a lot of the Conservatives policies, but at least they may be watered down now
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 8:45:52 GMT
Cherry Picking a bit, really Maybe Cherry Picking, but I was having more of a look at the (unelected with even less of a mandate Theresa May) PM in waiting Jeremy Corbyn. found it interesting and odd that the man who wants to help the few, who wants to raise the minimum/living wage, voted against increasing the tax free threshold. Would he vote differently now?
I voted neither of the two main parties Les for the record, I am against a lot of the Conservatives policies, but at least they may be watered down now
With you. I voted to stop May having a clear Mandate for her vision of Brexit. There were many of her policies I agreed with, especially care and pension funding, but she was awful at explaining it. In fact she is just plain awful. |
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Post by peterparker on Jun 12, 2017 9:22:13 GMT
One of the things I found annoying about the election personally was the line about how there was a clear choice between two differing parties
Whilst that was true, it completely alienated me being that I would be in the centre ground. There are policies on both sides I quite liked, and some on both sides I didn’t
Not all privatisation is bad (but it needs to be properly regulated) and re-nationalising everything wont encourage growth, completion, innovation and the dreaded words for Unions ‘efficiencies’ , that said some re-nationalisation or part re-nationalisation wouldn’t be bad in certain sectors
Likewise I agree with the conservatives to extent that Social care needs to be looked at. We can’t continue to ignore it and some tough decisions have to be made with an ever increasing aging population.
Labour’s promise of free-stuff for the 95% as it were has it’s problems in dis-incentivising people to actually get on and expecting other people to look after them. There is nothing inherently wrong with The Conservatives cutting some benefits, but they all have to be done properly. The “Bedroom Tax” in its self is not a particularly bad idea (Why should someone claiming benefits have a bigger house then they need, when someone else might need it more?), but the problem was punishing people for having extra rooms, when there is no supply to move people around
May ran a completely useless campaign, and never got anything cross, or just dodged it completely, allowing Corbyn to claim some sort of victory, and now him and McDonell think they can call for May to resign because she has no mandate and think they can lead the country with even less of one. If it were the other way around, I bet loads of Labour supporters would be right on the bandwagon trying to stop the Tory’s forming a 262 seat Government
Whilst all the commentators and politicians talk about a real choice now going forward and the landscape being changed, the centre ground (for the near future at least) has been abandoned by both sides. Labour MPs will have to face vitriol from some quarters if they try and drag Jeremy to the right slightly and it will take some kicking and screaming by the more sane Tory MPs to drag them back left a bit unless somehow someone can come out of nowhere and take the centre
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