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Post by wiaww on May 8, 2017 16:14:11 GMT
Fiver to the FFS? Unless you're prepared to offer me a price... Sounds good mate, was going to suggest something similar! Please pull me up on it if he doesn't - there's a 200% chance I'll forget all about this conversation!
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Post by wiaww on May 8, 2017 13:16:29 GMT
This is what I mean; people just didn't like him. As of the summer he'd scored 45 in 91 - a phenomenal record and one of, if not the best of any striker in the past 20 or 30 years. Anyone else banging them in at that rate would have been hero worshiped. People didn't like him? Nonsense. He was loved prior to his move in January, despite messing us around last summer. Did you even read the post I was replying to? Let's just agree to disagree.
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Post by wiaww on May 8, 2017 12:40:30 GMT
Come on Peter, no one is being critical here. We've been in the dark about the new stadium for a long while now so it's no surprise that stories like these are analysed to death. Maybe we haven't heard much, but we have clearly been told August is the deadline to sort something. Hang on a couple of months and we should know one way or the other I don't know what to think about the stadium anymore so I'm somewhat resigned to more waiting, but reading that... article? press release? I can't help but feel that foundations are being laid for bad news and not a new stadium. That's not to say that I don't feel that we're still moving in the right direction.
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Post by wiaww on May 8, 2017 12:23:34 GMT
Criticised if they don't spend money, criticised if they do. FFS Come on Peter, no one is being critical here. We've been in the dark about the new stadium for a long while now so it's no surprise that stories like these are analysed to death.
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Post by wiaww on May 8, 2017 12:17:38 GMT
I remember saying on the forum in the summer that he wouldn't even come into my top 10 Rovers strikers, now he doesn't even come into the top 100. This is what I mean; people just didn't like him. As of the summer he'd scored 45 in 91 - a phenomenal record and one of, if not the best of any striker in the past 20 or 30 years. Anyone else banging them in at that rate would have been hero worshiped.
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Post by wiaww on May 8, 2017 11:56:42 GMT
Calm down. He was a decent cog in a very effective machine DC put together. Obviously he's nowhere near good enough to be put into the same bracket of Hayles, Stewart, Lambert, Roberts etc who went on to score goals in the PL. 'Bloody good footballer' is massively overdoing it. I suspect he'll be there in August but will need to step up and improve his goal return given Abraham*'s departure. If he doesn't, he won't hang around at that level for long. *An actually good Championship striker. Spot on. Also willing to take up wiaww on his offer of putting money on the snake starting their first game next season! Fiver to the FFS? Unless you're prepared to offer me a price...
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Post by wiaww on May 8, 2017 11:54:56 GMT
No I haven't. There's more to his game than just scoring goals. Taylor is a far better player than most people are willing to give him credit for. There's something(!) about the bloke that just seems to rub people up the wrong way - even as one of the greatest goalscorers in our history and a central figure in back to back promotions and still many people weren't particularly fond of him - but he is a bloody good footballer and good enough for the Championship. He'll still be there in August and he'll score goals for them. Calm down. He was a decent cog in a very effective machine DC put together. Obviously he's nowhere near good enough to be put into the same bracket of Hayles, Stewart, Lambert, Roberts etc who went on to score goals in the PL. 'Bloody good footballer' is massively overdoing it. I suspect he'll be there in August but will need to step up and improve his goal return given Abraham*'s departure. If he doesn't, he won't hang around at that level for long. *An actually good Championship striker. I never said he was a patch on the aforementioned, but for Rovers he has a better goalscoring record than any of them. Say what you want about the difference in levels but you can only score goals at the level you're at. Yet people never really took to him here (pre-Jan 31st, obviously not a popular figure now...) and I think that clouds people's perception of how good his all round game is. Of course nothing is certain but I really think that he'll score for them in the Championship given a decent run of games.
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Post by wiaww on May 8, 2017 11:29:47 GMT
You're kidding yourselves if you think they'll sell him; he's a huge part of the reason they stayed up! Since he joined them their form is: W - 7 D - 5 L - 6 Results where he's been involved at all: W - 6 D - 4 L - 5 Form where he's started: W - 5 D - 2 L - 2 2 goals in 15 isn't great, yes he missed some sitters, but they are a better side with Taylor starting - just like we were - and unfortunately Dwarf Small realised that and as such I'd put money on him starting their first game next season. Huge part? You've contradicted yourself there with his goal ratio. They were high flying at the start of the season without Taylor so to suggest he's the reason for the upturn is off the mark IMO. No I haven't. There's more to his game than just scoring goals. Taylor is a far better player than most people are willing to give him credit for. There's something(!) about the bloke that just seems to rub people up the wrong way - even as one of the greatest goalscorers in our history and a central figure in back to back promotions and still many people weren't particularly fond of him - but he is a bloody good footballer and good enough for the Championship. He'll still be there in August and he'll score goals for them.
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Post by wiaww on May 8, 2017 11:14:41 GMT
You're kidding yourselves if you think they'll sell him; he's a huge part of the reason they stayed up! Since he joined them their form is:
W - 7 D - 5 L - 6
Results where he's been involved at all:
W - 6 D - 4 L - 5
Form where he's started:
W - 5 D - 2 L - 2
2 goals in 15 isn't great, yes he missed some sitters, but they are a better side with Taylor starting - just like we were - and unfortunately Dwarf Small realised that and as such I'd put money on him starting their first game next season.
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Post by wiaww on May 7, 2017 22:41:35 GMT
This has to be satire, surely.
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Post by wiaww on May 7, 2017 10:28:40 GMT
Feels like a lot longer than a year ago. What an excellent day that was.
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Post by wiaww on May 6, 2017 21:48:49 GMT
Assists are an almost completely meaningless stat. You could beat 5 players on your way to the byline and play an inch perfect pass to the far post where your teammate is waiting unmarked, only for them to scuff it 6 inches out and for another team mate to bundle it in to the net and your pal that's missed an absolute sitter gets an assist against their name. That's why it's such a divisive game - rarely do stats tell the whole story. I disagree. Your scenario could happen once, maybe twice, but the balance of probability over a season is that if you have a high number of assists, you've been a big asset to the team. You could equally say that goal stats are meaningless as it could hit you on the arse and bounce in whilst you are turning the other way to chat to the ref. My example was exaggerated to illustrate a point. You're right that something like that happens very rarely but I find that often the player credited with the assist isn't the player that's had the majority of the influence on the goal. It seems that different stat compilers use different parameters for what is considered an assist as well. To me it's just too vague. Having said that I agree that a player that racks up a high number of assists is likely to be an asset so perhaps it's not completely useless.
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Post by wiaww on May 6, 2017 18:09:39 GMT
Assists are an almost completely meaningless stat. You could beat 5 players on your way to the byline and play an inch perfect pass to the far post where your teammate is waiting unmarked, only for them to scuff it 6 inches out and for another team mate to bundle it in to the net and your pal that's missed an absolute sitter gets an assist against their name. That's why it's such a divisive game - rarely do stats tell the whole story.
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Post by wiaww on May 6, 2017 17:33:10 GMT
I kept getting the phone calls every week. I knew I had no PPI so kept telling them to sod off. One afternoon out of devilment I told one company that they could go ahead and process my claim just to waste their time. I gave them my DOB and that was it. About 6 weeks later they sent me a letter telling me I had a claim and asked me to sign 2 forms!! They charged me 30% commission but I still ended up with a check for £1200.00. And I still maintain I didn't have any PPI. www.thewoolcompany.co.uk/lussuoso-cashmere-double-sided-blanket-soft-grey-cream.html
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Post by wiaww on May 4, 2017 13:03:03 GMT
So, we don't actually have a keeper then. Nor any games, fortunately
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Post by wiaww on May 3, 2017 20:33:51 GMT
Caught the little bastard! I got home and found that the trap had sprung, so I took it out to find the Mole still alive, so I put him in a bag, and in a rare moment of mercy, I released him into a field nearby. Bottle job. He'll be back.
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Post by wiaww on May 3, 2017 10:16:56 GMT
Wouldn't be at all surprised if we signed Luke. DC seems to like a 'project' when it comes to strikers. I understand why many aren't keen on the prospect of signing him permanently given his... record, but with his stock at an all time low I can't imagine he'd command a fee and his wages are likely to be pretty low and DC obviously thinks he has goals in him somewhere.
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Post by wiaww on May 3, 2017 9:16:08 GMT
This is really great. Looks like their decision to move away from superstores and focus on the smaller "Local" stores didn't pay off after all. Shame.
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Post by wiaww on May 1, 2017 14:14:00 GMT
Happy, proud, grateful. Not satisfied in the sense that it's a bit of a shock to the system that things have sort of fizzled out. Would love to have made the play offs because I think we're capable of slightly more than we showed this season. That's not to say that DC and the boys haven't done fantastically well though!
UTG
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Post by wiaww on May 1, 2017 8:28:21 GMT
When Rovers approached Dover, they were told it was £250,00 or no deal. We'd be nuts to pay that for a non proven League player of his age. Now it's a case of do we still want him and if so what the signing on fee and salary should be. If it's not enough we move on. I don't know... I think that if we'd got anywhere near Taylor's real market value for him then £250k would have been a decent gamble. Unfortunately we got about a 10th of what he was actually worth and as a result DC's hands were tied when it came to whether or not to spend 80% of the Taylor transfer fee on Miller. For me it will take a while to get over the fact that Pantsdown well and truly had our pants down. Such an underhand move from a scummy man and an awful little club that have built their entire existence on ripping people off, but as is often the case in football it seems that cheats prosper because it worked a treat. If Miller ends up here in the summer then it will be for the right money because we that's how DC operates but as others have said we'll almost definitely miss out to someone willing to pay him more than he's worth.
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