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Post by inee on Aug 8, 2018 13:36:14 GMT
The way it works here in Germany is that basically the hospital's treat you if you are 'broken' (if you get my drift). Anything else, then you have to go to a Specialist Doctor outside of the hospital. NHS. Fertility treatment - Usually the first attempt is free, but then it's 5,000 quid a go. You also missed out Gastric Bands. On Fertility I think the guidance is 3 rounds, although not all Health Authorities offer the whole 3 Gastric bands. Not so sure because if effective the saving on long term costs due to health issues associated with obesity may make it a false economy That is an interesting one ,as it isn't a be all and end all fix ,it takes a lot of will power to make it work as intended as recipients have to change their habits ,from memory a gastric band creates a small stomach to fool the brain into sending i'm full up messages to the brain and holds about 1 /2 a cup of food ,it takes a while for the body to do this reliably ,so patients have to not keep stuffing until those full up messages are sent reliably , can you see a pattern here ,it's ultimately down to the individual to learn to not to overfeed ,so in my view if they have to change their eating habits for it to work surely they can do the same without the surgery(i know it's not the same for everyone) ,surely as pill makers and medical scientists know what sends the message why cant they some p with a medication to help ,i know appetite suppressants are available but don't work for all ,surely they can develop a slow release medication that works a month at a time ,you can get contraceptive implants that last for a few months , the happy pills i take are slow release over a 24hr period so i just have to take one lot a day rather than 3 or 4 lots a day , imo the reason this would be good idea is that when your on long term meds it's very easy to decide your ok now and stop taking them ,so say a weeks dose maybe taken at a chemists ,would be an ideal way to keep an eye out until that persons next appointment(a note on the pc for the gp to read lets face it it's easy for people to fall off the radar ) and also to get them outside even if t's only for a few minute. Gastric bands can have some very nasty side effects so can end up costing a small fortune in further treatments. The biggest issues wit a lot of conditions is breaking the habits and the triggers from those habits
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Post by inee on Aug 8, 2018 12:40:43 GMT
Seriously though we do need to look at what the NHS should cover. Obviously when Nye Bevan brought the NHS into being he could not have envisaged what technology would bring. Equally, when Equality Laws are drafted, unintended consequences should be considered. As a starter for ten these are some the things that should be paid for privately. Fertility Treatment Abortion where failure to take precaution is obvious Correction of failed privately delivered cosmetic surgery A&E service due to alcohol, drugs or fighting. something i agree with you on in the main ,the first point i agree with to a certain extent ,i know a few people who have tried fertility treatment and i has failed to say they were devastated was an understatement ,i do however have to put on the hard hat and say i believe it should be offered to the traditional male/female couples only ,another thing related to this is people getting treatment should if they agree be assessed by social services (obviously they get a choice) ,with a view to becoming foster parents in the future ,some go down hat route but both are very long paths Totally agree these days as he morning after pill is freely available ,it should also be available to those who are genuinely vulnerable. Plastic surgery disasters (Fantastic LP that ) It's something that really winds me up ,some go abroad or to backtstreet surgeons ,ruin their bodies then expect to get it fixed for fee ,i can sympathise if they have suffer with BDD however most in that category will have attempted diy surgery ,but those at he lower end of the scale are likely to follow the route i mentioned earlier The last one is probably the most difficult one to asses in a firm way and fair way as to who should pay and who should not ,often the 3 things you mention are bought about by mental illness. But and it's a big but not everyone who get injured that way are suffering with a mental illness ,separating the two is very difficult ,which leads me to a little side track ,there should be an nhs register for all patient s with limited info available so if someone get s into one of the situations mentioned then upon typing their name that type of info would show up along with other info such as medical conditions which would impact on their safe treatment ,if your not on the list you get billed
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Post by inee on Aug 4, 2018 14:46:01 GMT
This was always gonna be 4-1 to Peterborough Where's the one coming from? Ellis the super sub in clarkey time Oh hang on a mo ,damn that was last season ,so i guess your right
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Post by inee on Aug 4, 2018 14:18:53 GMT
Late to logon the forum wish i hadn't now ,still 1st game n all that
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Post by inee on Aug 1, 2018 8:15:13 GMT
i was younger when i typed this reply but older now i finished ok a bullseye plus a couple
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Post by inee on Jul 27, 2018 13:45:55 GMT
head says runaway league winners ,however reality says top 1/2 of the table
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Post by inee on Jul 27, 2018 13:43:41 GMT
What's sad, is that I actually agree with some of the points you have raised, but some of the rhetoric and language used within this thread (by jaggas mainly) needs challenging because it undermines your whole argument. I don't know and have never met him ,but what i do know is that sometime we have to be slightly offensive or leading in the way we word stuff for others to take notice others do it too in different ways some use grammar and not commonly used words to appear they are superior more educated than others ,i've dealt with people like that every day in my previous job i knew my industry inside out so when i come across those who to get where they claimed to be had to crawl over everybody beneath them to succeed to then see them post as if they firmly believe in the left side of workers rights is to me the point at which i lose all respect for that person ,you've met me and several others have as well and know what you see is what you get ,i'm the same face to face as i am replying on here ,we are vastly different in our beliefs and outlook on life ,however we are both grown up enough to chew the cud and have a drink despite out differing opinions on stuff.
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Post by inee on Jul 27, 2018 13:32:13 GMT
Ok, you want an example? Can't remember if it was this thread or the other one where the charge of islamophobia was denied with the counter that a phobia is an irrational fear. It's actually defined as "an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something". Irrespective of that, the defence was posited that the fear must be irrational and that dislike of Islam is reasonable. Being offended by something that doesn't exist simply doesn't stand up to rationale. What's sad, is that I actually agree with some of the points you have raised, but some of the rhetoric and language used within this thread (by jaggas mainly) needs challenging because it undermines your whole argument. That wasn't aimed at you as you well know ,that was aimed at those who continue to confuse religion with race. Hugo as i pointed out it does stand up ,i find all organised religions offensive as since time began it's been a way of keeping the weak minded in line and more crime and death has been carried out in it's name than any other organisation, it makes people like chairman mau ,stalin ,pol pot (chosen for the numbers killed)look like armatures compared to atrocities carried out in the name of a make believe person , i don't believe in a god but does that mean i can't find everything done in his name offensive and bitter tasting ,similarily if my meat was blessed in the name of stalin should i still not be offended. i struggle to see how people can't understand that point , or if i saw a dog bone in the butchers labled as blessed by pol pot ,should i not be offended.
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Post by inee on Jul 27, 2018 13:07:50 GMT
Far from checkmate Have you moved your Pawn yet? Seriously incoherent rants based upon your own prejudice and, like Jaggas, an inability to buy food that meets your ethical criteria in a free market are just laughable. Someone says KFC sells Halal chicken, or suspects they do. You don't like that. Don't buy it. Simples. If EColi was identified in a food product in your grocer of choice, you wouldn't rant about it and carry on buying it, would you? Really? Oh dear ,what part of i no longer buy lamb because it's halal , i don't buy halal meats period , is it so difficult for you understand that. the point being made was that it is hidden ,most people don't know that they are eating it ,kfc i used to love the occasional one but stopped eating it years ago when they revealed that some suppliers were kicking the chickens around ,subway i will not buy anything from them as it's s-hit and bacon has been removed from some stores to appease a certain religious group ,why was it not removed earlier as another religious group can't touch bacon ,so for all the s-hite people spout about certain religions not getting preferential treatment that shows it does. If a shop i was using was selling dodgy food i would tell others so whats your point here. What really makes me laugh about people like yourself is every time someone disagrees you start slipping in things like racism ,when challenged you like many others ,refuse to show any post to back up your accusations. As a believer in the big book of lies ,it shows in your quick defence of anyone disagreeing with muslim practices ,are you one of those people who pretends to be outraged by things but then secretly still buy their goods or products from businesses that made their money from the very things you say you hate ,you also seem to quote organisations you dislike but don't appear to know how or why they were set up and like many seem unable to separate racism from religion. You continually try to belittle people when they mention foreign countries ,then go silent when the person says yes i have ,i take from your replies that you lived in kuwait for a while ,wow that makes you so much more aware about the world doesn't it ,in this thread you say my beliefs on justice were preposterous ,how many people do you know who have been subject to sexual abuse ,how many of them said to you you know what the offender is now locked up being treated better than i am ,so it's high time i just forget about it ,not jump when a stranger appears ,or have a breakdown when the offender is back on the streets in a few months time ,or spend a life time avoiding things just in case ,however it's all fine in your religion these things are ok because the book says so
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Post by inee on Jul 27, 2018 11:29:37 GMT
See, that's what I don't get. I think we've probably both been playing a little bit in defending our corner, but we both agree that God is made up. How then, can blessing meat possibly make any difference? I can understand the issue around choice and I understand there is a possible point to conceed around method of execution. But where you both let yourself down is getting all hot and bothered about a religious thing that we all agree is meaningless. If it were all as meaningless as you and Inee keep saying why do you both keep ascribing meaning to it? It literally makes no difference. Checkmate Far from checkmate
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Post by inee on Jul 27, 2018 11:27:17 GMT
Throat slit bleeding out slowly prayers being said in the name of an all seeing fairy that doesn`t exist is your prefered method I take it............ See, that's what I don't get. I think we've probably both been playing a little bit in defending our corner, but we both agree that God is made up. How then, can blessing meat possibly make any difference? I can understand the issue around choice and I understand there is a possible point to conceed around method of execution. But where you both let yourself down is getting all hot and bothered about a religious thing that we all agree is meaningless. If it were all as meaningless as you and Inee keep saying why do you both keep ascribing meaning to it? It literally makes no difference. It's offensive simple as ,it's the fact that the meat is slowly killed with no regard to our processes ,and the fact that someone then blesses it ,lets look at it another way if you were buying a car and every model had religious imagery in the paintwork would you find it offensive(say it was the only option that allowed you to buy a car ,or would you prefer the right to buy a car that was not painted with religious imagery . The point is i would find the first offensive and i would not drive simple as. Or simply put if your meat was blessed in the name of oswald moseley ,or pol pot ,would you eat that meat ,i rather suspect if meat was blessed in those name there would be a right outcry ,however you accept a blessing by a mythical idol who has had a hand in more death and destruction than the two people mentioned ,and that is were i get offended ,you would have a fit if your meat was blessed in the name of the far right or far left ,but have no problem with it being blessed by the most evil ,oppressive ,murderous figure who lives in the sky. so yes we believe that god doesn't exist ,but find offence that food has been blessed in it's name despite the fact that more people have been harmed believing the myth ,than any other for of organisation
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Post by inee on Jul 27, 2018 11:05:47 GMT
How to start a thread about press intrusions, and finish it with death penalties. (Only On Gaschat!) Having gone through Heanus crimes involving White girls by Muslims. Then onto Islam, their followers get religious privileges in the work place. Then onto Christianity that's based on fear. Then onto Hala meat Then onto Death penalties. Have I missed any? I'm sure I have... Everything is related ,these type of discussions always drift as it begins with cliff richards but then opens up with various related subjects. I stated that the BBC was wrong and if taken to court (richards) then the case would probably been thrown out` ,i also mentioned that for a heli to be booked with a cameraman at that specific point in time and at that specific house ,then someone in the police must have leaked it, same as a&s and the evening post after the last us v sh** match, but was it leaked to ensure that the case would then be closed . If it was me he would have got life for that awful dirge he calls music
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Post by inee on Jul 27, 2018 10:58:45 GMT
Hugo if you had to choose i a bolt through your head or a slit throat so you would bleed out slowly ,which would you want ,i will say both ways are horrible ways of dying but one is much quicker less painful than the other. Some of us me included have a deep seated hatred of religion ,more atrocities ,theft ,sex crimes have been carried out in the name of religion than any other way ,belief in gods started as a way to scare and oppress people and still do today to some extent dependant on if you were brainwashed as a kid or not (all religions not just one) , so forgive me if i find it rather distasteful and deeply offensive if meat i buy is blessed , i avoid any meat from new zealand ,i would rather go without than buy their meat as it's all halal ,and yes it may taste the same but kosher or halal leave a very bitter taste in taste in my mouth as i shouldn't have to ask in this country whether my meat is slaughtered according to our ways ,You say just eat sausaes now that is a minefield as many will use lamb casings which may or may not have been blessed. you seem to be under the impression that a bullet to the head kills you immediately? Bolt ,i said bolt ,with a bullet to ensure almost instantaneous death it has to enter the swede at a very specific point and angle. What i was asking was would hugo like to be stunned(knocked out) or simply throat slit wide awake ,both methods involve the death of an animal but one is more cruel for the animal A very quick question have you ever killed a sheep for food if so what method did you use, i have tried both and believe me the stunned method is better for the animal
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Post by inee on Jul 26, 2018 19:22:27 GMT
Hugo the Elder I have bookmarked that page and will have a listen when I've got the time ,i do realise that those who administer the punishment will suffer to differing levels and types of punishment. Personally i would never use the electric chair for the simple reason that i can't stand the smell of burning flesh or hair. lethal injection would be imo just like giving an unwanted anaesthetic. Hanging is the easiest and cheapest but requires a lot of time and study to ensure a quick death ,so i s'pose if i did the job that would be the one for me ,as it involves a bit of study to perfect ,i do not know if it would affect me long term the reason why is because i firmly believe that for certain crimes that is the only fitting punishment and i would be relieving the world of one more animal or subhuman so in that regards it would make each one worth it ,but as i said until you do the job you cannot gauge the way you will feel mentally (plus i rather suspect it would be a great stress reliever). Plus it's a great way to cut prison costs and save the public from becoming victims ,yes i also understand that it isn't a deterrent as these people will still act the way they do regardless of sentence if caught, but what it will do is to reduce the number of those who committed the crimes and ensure they will never be able to re offend, personally i feel that with certain crimes once you cross that line ,you lose all rights to be treated as a human The death penalty hasn't had any effect on lowering crime in the US. Obviously reoffending rates improve. Edit. For those that can't be bothered to listen to a 25 minutes podcast, it's about how a prison guard feels about having to take a life himself and how he feels that the people who vote for the death penalty and jurers who sentence it should be made to be part of the process of killing that person. Although it will be a good listen and i will have a listen ,i suspect it's more a propaganda exercise ,for the simple fact the guard doesn't have any obligation to anyone to execute people ,no one can be forced to be an executioner ,they would simply work elsewhere
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Post by inee on Jul 26, 2018 19:10:40 GMT
Hugo the ElderI have bookmarked that page and will have a listen when I've got the time ,i do realise that those who administer the punishment will suffer to differing levels and types of punishment. Personally i would never use the electric chair for the simple reason that i can't stand the smell of burning flesh or hair. lethal injection would be imo just like giving an unwanted anaesthetic. Hanging is the easiest and cheapest but requires a lot of time and study to ensure a quick death ,so i s'pose if i did the job that would be the one for me ,as it involves a bit of study to perfect ,i do not know if it would affect me long term the reason why is because i firmly believe that for certain crimes that is the only fitting punishment and i would be relieving the world of one more animal or subhuman so in that regards it would make each one worth it ,but as i said until you do the job you cannot gauge the way you will feel mentally (plus i rather suspect it would be a great stress reliever). Plus it's a great way to cut prison costs and save the public from becoming victims ,yes i also understand that it isn't a deterrent as these people will still act the way they do regardless of sentence if caught, but what it will do is to reduce the number of those who committed the crimes and ensure they will never be able to re offend, personally i feel that with certain crimes once you cross that line ,you lose all rights to be treated as a human
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Post by inee on Jul 26, 2018 18:35:07 GMT
I did laugh at the article on gingers on that site with reference to the met offices warning to stay indoors ,entitled Gingers advised to not even bother today ,a few of the other ginger posts made me chuckle newsthump.com/?s=gingers
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Post by inee on Jul 26, 2018 18:28:31 GMT
Yesterday ploughed my way through a half page editorial in Le Figaro entitled "We must avoid a hard Brexit with the uk". The paper extolled Brussels to take very seriously the proposals -even vague ones - from the UK. In one paragraph it stated that the EU is at a crossroads, not referring to Brexit but referring to the economic, diplomatic and security issues faced in the EU (quote "Who would have thought this even two years ago?)Additionally it pointed out the lack of love coming from Putin, Trump and Xi. Makes you think. It's like i said the ball was firmly in our court ,but now that ship has sailed. It also to me shows that the eu relies on our security system ,GCHQ etc more than most people realise and more than anyone is willing to admit.
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Post by inee on Jul 26, 2018 18:21:53 GMT
I take it by your comments that you have never lived in country where the rule of law is not applied democratically? If not I will pull rank on you and state that I have, not only was it a near fascist state but a theocracy at that. As for the demand for justice for sex crimes, your allegation of greater rights than the victim is preposterous. The truth is your version of justice is revenge, an idea that we, in the UK, moved away from centuries ago. Rather strangely your view absolutely corresponds to the Sharia Law version of justice where revenge is absolutely the response. Contradictory to your view of Islam? Totally. But absolutists share a common thread. Autocracy.
Nope never have or will visit foreign countries as there is too much of this country i havent seen or visited ,not trying to pull rank as you say ,however do you know anyone who has been a victim of a sex crime ,who believes that justice has been served with a soft sentance ,whatever you say an offender if caught and convicted gets more rights than the victim ,prison is soft these days ,rules are harder on the staff than the offenders ,the victim seldom get any help whatsoever ,instead left to sort themselves out ,many people do not and will never understant the damage these assaults cause people it's not something that you can click your fingers and say whoppee i feel justice has been done ,in many cases the victims only feel any sort of justice when the offender dies as then and only then can they begin to lose the fear ,my type of justice was carried out in this country until very recently as a side note horfield prison has i believe only in the last few years emptied out their gallows room. I would disagree and say if anything my version of justice has been practiced for a long long time before islam was invented so nope not sharia law
The fundamental point you are making, again, is that you are not happy with the legislature, the executive and the judiciary. The separation of these three fundamental pillars of government are essential to a healthy democracy (as you probably believe, correctly, in a theocracy, Islamic or otherwise, they are not) As citizens it is absolutely correct that we do not, cannot influence or undermine the independence of the Judiciary. Our role is to vote in the legislature, the executive role is to govern by the rules passed by the legislature, it is the Judiciary to interpret and then apply the tariff when those laws are broken. Independently. To change the rules you vote in the government to just that. If you lose the vote you accept, in a democracy, the outcome. You appear not to. That is my friend anarchy at best, criminal at worst.
I would hazard a guess and say that the majority of people do not believe in or accept certain laws it does not make them anarchist ,it means they are free thinking ,lets go to another responce of yours concerning sentancing do you believe or agree that every sentance handed down by the courts in this countery is fair and just ,do you believe that say two peole commit the same offence they get different sentances ,do you agree that a short while back burglary became an offence that was largely ignored by the police, there are many examples of this that can be looked up. You say anarchy at best criminal at worst .then go on to praise those who have commited those acts ,you object to my views but support people who have violently taken the law into their hand as well as being active terrorists the first bomb edused on uk soil in 1914 was set off by those you applaud.
I refer to my previous comment. The UK did not end up a making a reasonable stab at democracy by accident. In our past many people were killed (The Peterloo Massacre) deported (Tolpuddle Martyrs), stripped of livelihoods (Union Membership) or willingly died for the cause (Suffragette). Whilst I completely share your views on the disgrace of empire as we acted it out, that is not what I am talking about and you know it. Its the hard won rights of the "ordinary" citizen, a description you and I share, that your views the people who enabled those rights would be embarrassed by. The "no one to vote for" refers to Brexit, where all political parties and protagonists on both sides of the debate are a disgrace. Vote I will given the opportunity, but the way this is going I very much doubt that I will be allowed to given that our Parliamentary legislature has been hijacked by 40 or so hard right extremists in the Tory Party and opposed by a few idiots in the Labour Party.
I beg to differ there i believe in one man one vote and unlike some will never seek to change it , i doubt for one minute those you speak of would dissagree with my views on crime and punishment as they themselves were more violent than i'm advocating for certain types of crime ,i also suspect more than a few attended and cheered at public executions and as mentioned by myself above some actively took part in terrorist actions.
Absolutely wrong. I quote Voltaire and believe in it with a passion. Time and time again, the more one allows extremists the exposure to express their views, the more the fool they make of themselves. You may recall Nick Griffin on question time. Made an utter fool of himself and destroyed his vile party. Lovely. Don't jump out of your pram about the inference that you are an extremist, I don't know that. But you do come across as angry, and may I say confused. Easy prey for the extremists in politics.
I saw it differently to you ,i vividly remember someone who was the son of an immagrants and a few other imagrants agreeing and supporting nicks views on immagration, i also remember jack straw whining about the bnp using an image of a ww2 aircraft as a shame to the heroes who piloted them ,only for nick to expose straws lily livered grandad who refused to fight ,i also recall jack straw saying that the uk government(labour) nothing to do with the bnp program stating that they never had any knowledge of people being tortured by the cia ,but later when outed had to admit that his government gave info to the yanks that enabled the cia to kidnap someone. When you compare the two which one is worse ,now you may think yourself superior to me as regard your coments about me being easy prey to extremist ,i'm afraid you are totally and utterly clueless ,my beliefs and views are my own and never have or will be because im'm easy prey to anybody ,you could say that my views could ,be left wing ,right wing ,or even central ,it's not confution at all i know exactly who and what i am and thats all that matters ,i don't change my views to seek friends or jump on the latest bandwagon ,with me what you see is what you get i suspect (maybe im wrong) that your party of choice is the labour party if so how could you possibly vote for a party that continually screws the country over.
Your life experiences are your own and not for me to interpret. As for myself I have lived in three countries during the course of my life. I Have never knowingly or willingly broken the law in two (I did get a speeding ticket (once) in the UK, does that count?). I did willingly and knowingly break the law in one, by being in possession and distributing a UK publication that was highly critical of the regime there. The secret police (laughingly not so secret, actually came up to my office desk and demanded I hand over the original. I did. But they were to thick to not understand I worked for Xerox, a reprographics company. Black and white copies were already in circulation) It was that well known ultra left publication, The Economist. Laugh? we all did)
I hope this helps you understand my viewpoint and why I object to yours.
I find it strange that you have such a passionet responce to my beliefs in law and order then willingly break the laws of a foreign country ,which in my opinion is worse than breaking a law in this country ,as you were a guest wherever it was ,how would you have reacted if you were tried and punished by the laws of that country ,would you have accepted it or like many run to the british embassy for help ,i'm genuainely interested in your responce , As you have lived in foreign climbs do you accept that if someone breaks the law over there they should be punished acording to that countries laws, for example drug smuggling in some countries equate to the death penalty or do you believe they should be tried in their own countries. Likewise a few years back a yank sprayed graffditi somewhere abroad, was caught and sentanced to lashes what are your views on that ,i will lay mine out as if your stupid enough to get caught commiting a crime you deserve the punishment
Where we probably differ is knowing you views and mine are vastly different i would glady sit down and have a pint with you ,i would also if the need arose fight alongside you in an armed conflict as to me england is more important than anyone political beliefs ,if that isn't democratic i don't know what is
sorry it took so long to reply but i've been terrorised all day by my granddaughter so couldn't spend much time replying
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Post by inee on Jul 26, 2018 16:43:19 GMT
No, I think the point that's being made that I do understand is that there is no choice. It's not regulated or labelled in the same way the battery/free range is. For example, KFC only do halal meat. It's not labelled and there is no choice. I still don't see what difference it would make if KFC sold battery chicken as both are cruel. It still would not be labelled and still would not be a choice but is somehow better. Some kfc stores are non halal so again if you look into it you can buy non halal kfc.Nandos is the same check the website and you will find the non halal restaurants.The Nandos local to me is in an area with very few if any Muslims yet the chicken served there is halal which makes no sense. The point you both seem to be missing is halal meat is in the general food chain and is not being labelled as such.This is disgraceful as this meat is slaughtered in a way to satisfy 5% of the people who live in the UK. Their book says if halal is not available they can eat the meat on offer so there is a simple solution.Your attitude of eat sausages instead shows how dim the pair of you are. Nearly the book say along the lines of ,if there is no halal meat in the country you are in you can eat kosher as it has been killed in the same way ,if there is neither of those you can still eat meat as long as you clean it and bless it yourselves or go without ,as i said in another post if the sausage casings are lamb then odds on it is halal a real minefield.
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Post by inee on Jul 26, 2018 16:34:46 GMT
No, I think the point that's being made that I do understand is that there is no choice. It's not regulated or labelled in the same way the battery/free range is. For example, KFC only do halal meat. It's not labelled and there is no choice. I still don't see what difference it would make if KFC sold battery chicken as both are cruel. It still would not be labelled and still would not be a choice but is somehow better. I would go a step further. I would say consumers should stop being so effing stupid and take responsibility themselves for what they eat. KFC products are unhealthy sh**, Halal or not. As an example. Buy your own food, cook your own food, know what you are eating. It's easy I'm agreeing with you here ,it maddens me how many people are too lazy to cook ,i know people who will have microwave meals so that's 8 or 9 minutes cooking each individually . In less time you could have meal for the family cheaper and quicker. I will never understand why people buy spuds in supermarkets ,a kilo is around £1 or £1.50 ,so if you buy 7 bags a month you can buy a whole sack in a greengrocers for around £7 most of the year ,or buy with friends or family and a whole bag becomes so much cheaper , is it so difficult for people to realise cooking fresh is not only cheaper in the long run ,but healthier and gives a time when everyone can sit down and talk.
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