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Post by inee on Jul 26, 2018 16:26:46 GMT
What an ill thought out comparison as you rush to defend halal meat. Non free range is labelled as such so the consumer can make an informed choice based on their principles on whether to purchase it or not. That is not the case with halal products. I'm not rushing to defend anything. I'm pointing out hypocrisy in saying this way of treating animals like sh** is worse than this other way of treating animals like sh**. I'm not arsed at all about halal meat. They can bless it all they like, it still tastes like chicken. If you are that bothered, just eat sausages. Hugo if you had to choose i a bolt through your head or a slit throat so you would bleed out slowly ,which would you want ,i will say both ways are horrible ways of dying but one is much quicker less painful than the other. Some of us me included have a deep seated hatred of religion ,more atrocities ,theft ,sex crimes have been carried out in the name of religion than any other way ,belief in gods started as a way to scare and oppress people and still do today to some extent dependant on if you were brainwashed as a kid or not (all religions not just one) , so forgive me if i find it rather distasteful and deeply offensive if meat i buy is blessed , i avoid any meat from new zealand ,i would rather go without than buy their meat as it's all halal ,and yes it may taste the same but kosher or halal leave a very bitter taste in taste in my mouth as i shouldn't have to ask in this country whether my meat is slaughtered according to our ways ,You say just eat sausaes now that is a minefield as many will use lamb casings which may or may not have been blessed.
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Post by inee on Jul 25, 2018 12:16:52 GMT
Hugo point me to where i said plod make laws and i will amend it as it was not intentional ,what i said was plod are selective in who and what they charge ,simply put this is more evident these days because more people will film them ,they will continualy close ranks when some are identified doing wrong ,you just need to look at some more recent cases ,many death in custody ,many violent assaults ,just look at the bristol guy who was foolish enough to work alongside then on race relations tasered in the face illegally ,cop get away with it ,senior offices backing her up ,a few days later she arrested someone else before giving him a chance to move his car , just one of many examples.
Do you really think if your house was burgled (hope you never have to go through that) and a coppers house was burgled at the same time ,who do you think will get priority ,people are supposed to be treated equally by plod but seldom are ,do you know anyone who has been targeted by plod just for their political beliefs which were legal beliefs in this country ,if you did i think your views might change somewhat.
Lets look at it another way plod arresting someone ,person is being hit choked ,held in a stress position ,not fighting back would you ring anbd report that assult ,another scenario person on mem pitch being laid into by two coppers ,effectively beating the guy with a big metal stick ,another copper then runs a quarter the legbth of the pitch getting his/her baton ready to join in the beating ,what would you do about it.
Maybe if the filth cleaned up their ranks and treated everybody fairly then i would change my views ,the police should police the same across england and (im purposely leaving out scotland and northern ireland as their laws are somewhat different) ,if you travel around this country you will soon see a vast difference in the way the police act and interact with people.
I've helped many a person in distress over the years but due to the way i've been treated by plod i just wouldn't help them.
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Post by inee on Jul 25, 2018 0:13:55 GMT
Intersting choice of words with regards to regimes ,do people who live in democracies not suffer like those from undemocratic countries ,take each comparison i made about plod then show me where no one suffers in this demcratic union we live in ,do victims of sex crime ever get justice the simple answer is no ,because criminals have more rights than their victims.
I'm not advocating anarchy as that system will never work in this country ,but funny you should use that as an example as that is exactly how a large perportion of people live ,already commiting crimes as long as it isn't against a company the law generally don't look too hard for the criminals who house break ,have you been burgeld and did you think you ever saw a fair amount of justice ,you say my views arn't compatible with living here ,again an example of people like yourself saying oh you don't agree with me so you are in the wrong.
I find your final sentance very obscure for someone who comes across the way you do ,if i'm an embaressment to our forefathers then i will gladly carry that title around with me given our history of oppresion of other countries ,slavery ,war crimes ,so yes im very glad if i am an embarresment to some of our forefathers.
I also find your first paragraph a little on the strange side as you say seek change through the ballot box ,then in another thread say you have no one to vote for ,surely someone as a believer in the so called democrasy we live in ,it would be wrong not to exercise your right to vote ,which was won by our forefathers in a very undemocratic and violent way.
You say you will defend my right to express my views freely somehow i have my doubts that you mean that the way you come across like many others is i will defend your right to freedom of expression as long as everyone agrees with you.
I will never understand people who feel that kiddie fiddlers ,rapists and murderers ,should not suffer greatly for their crimes ,why should they be allowed to live a relatively comfortable life ,whilst their victims have a lifetime of issues. Tell me where in the examples of the law i gave in my previous posts was there any fairness in the way the law was applied. from what you have written about the laws i will tip my hat in your direction as you imply that never once have you broken any laws applicable to this country.
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Post by inee on Jul 24, 2018 21:21:45 GMT
No, it's like the discovery channel. That's cool then.... I guess it will be squeezed between the program about Hitler and the program about sharks..... Try the yesterday channel it's free to air but run forbidden knowledge and world war weird most days both good programs normally 3 topics in each war episode ,they told the story of the russian anti tank dogs ,basically trained to leave a magnetic charge on a tank ,then run back ,what made it amusing was the russians used diesel and the krauts used petrol so guess where the dogs left their bombs ,then they changed the charges to blow up on impact or via a timer ,yup you guessed it the dogs would see another blow up then would run straight back to the russians , also another weird one was fire bats ,after pearl harbour the yanks wanted a devastating weapon ,so someone had the idea to use bats ,these were given an incendiary device the idea being they were cooled down so would semi hibernate ,when the temperature was raised they would become active ,and fly into the Japanese houses which had paper walls and set large fires ,the only problem was they prepared some bats for a demo ,and these warmed up flew around and exploded burning down the brand new barracks/camp that was built to develop theseweapons ,the funny part is while it proved it worked the yanks then dropped the atomic bomb so didn't need the bats . I find it fascinating how weapons develop so quickly in war times
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Post by inee on Jul 24, 2018 20:30:44 GMT
Good luck mildy for the future ,one of my fav players when he was playing ,always polite and willing to chew the cud
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Post by inee on Jul 24, 2018 19:24:25 GMT
tripple post
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Post by inee on Jul 24, 2018 19:24:13 GMT
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Post by inee on Jul 24, 2018 19:09:14 GMT
Tbf Oldie in cases involving the assault of kids there is no such thing as justice in the traditional sense ,short sentence or no sentence in some cases dependant on the judges bent ,in those cases retribution should be the sentence on conviction decided by the victims family ,personally if i was in power they would be hung slowly ,just so they knew what pain the gave their victims ,people don't seem to understand what the victims go through and the effect it has on their everday lives. I think, generally and judging by what you say on here, you strongly advocate the law, traditions and way of life of this country. Pity then that your views are so out of synch with the very thing you say you believe in. I have to say you come across as confused. At best. My views aren't out of sync with my beliefs ,again show me some evidence and I will gladly apologise , as for confused nope never have been ,for instance food I do not and never will blindly accept halal meats or kosher labelled foodstuff and will seek out meats prepared in our British ways ,I think organised religion is the root of all the evils in this world and find it vile that food would be blessed in the name of some made up entity in the clouds whilst being left to bleed out ,that's just one of many things that people like you n I would disagree on ,does that make you any better than I ,no it doesn't all it means is we have equally valid views on stuff. Everyone advocates the law or some parts of it ,I've never met anyone who whole heartedly agrees with every law published ,for example lets look at some laws you steal from any business and you seem to get the book thrown at ,not burgle someone's house you seem to get a slap on the wrists ,where is the justice in that ,where in that scenario is the law fair ,another when I was in the motor trade a judge had his car broken into which was trailered to our workshops and went over with a fine tooth comb by the forensic people ,a neighbour had his car broken into and plod turned up 3 days later again where is the fairness or equality in the law ,everyone should be treated equally many modern laws are just bought in to oppress the council estate types ,laws are bought in to oppress football fans with laws that only seem to apply to fans ,again where is the fairness in that. Moving on to serious offences in law ,no matter what you have done you seem to get shorter and shorter sentences ,which are unfairly handed out ,compare say the Kray brothers to others who have murdered more people who served the proper sentences ,take a look online for offences against kids sentences range from feck all to a few years ,when in reality any cases of murder (not accidental deaths) ,but pre meditated murder ,rape ,crimes against children both sexual and physical(I mean beating kids not just a clip round the ear) should have two sentences one sentence death by hanging the other sentence should be decided by victims family ,again no confusion here As for the biggest criminal gang in the country yes plod ,I do not hide the fact that I hate each and everyone of them they are supposed to uphold the law fairly for everyone ,however the reality is they are all corrupt ,picking and choosing what charges fit what crime ,losing evidence ,harassing people going about their lawful business ,in many cased working with private businesses rather than working for or protecting the general public ,solving many soft laws to get better clear up rates by targeting motorist ,to get better detection rates ,using bully boy tactics on people when they do not do as asked ,a good example try filming one when your out and about ,try filming them arresting someone they will `in the main tell you ,you can't film them ask you for your name(even though you have not committed an offence and there's no intention to arrest you, obstruct your vision and generally try to harass you into moving on even though you are not breaking any laws ,if I was out and saw a pig in trouble and they needed immediate help ,I would not even waste a free phone call to save them. In an ideal world laws .justice and law enforcement should be fair and equal ,however all of these things are so disjointed that the law really is an ars-e and corrupt from top to bottom ,another quick comparison if some fat blonde bird with 3 kids ,and on benefits went out for a meal ,left the kids at home ,one disappeared most people would rightly in my opinion want those kids removed from her. But if you aren't council house scum ,are in the main middle class and working for a large organisation and the same thing happens to you ,you get millions to keep plod looking into the case ,A sniffer dog identifies something in the car that should just not be there ,you get treated like heroes, how is that so called justice. you mean the war on drugs guy , that is imo the way to deal with those I mentioned above ,for certain crimes the only person who see any form of justice is the rapist ,kiddie fiddler or murderer ,in the case of sexual assault the victim never gets justice ,buries that stuff deep down knowing that no matter what happens only the bastard that attacked them will get looked after by the law and legal system in this country ,whereas the victims will get left to their own devices living a life of fear ,never being able to relax when out and a stranger appears close by ,or even a funny accent in a pub can be enough to trigger them back to the past ,so I will say it again the law ,the law makers ,the so called enforcers ,the courts have again left the victim with no justice or felling's that they will be ok ,instead the criminal will get looked after 3 meals a day and generally be left alone to plot their next attack. So yes I have very strong unbendable beliefs in how certain crime should be addressed ,love my country and my birth town ,but not too keen on modern life ,not keen on the way the filth selectively choose which crimes to work on ,hate the way the filth close ranks and lie when caught only for the toothless masses to believe everything they or others in authority tell them ,again no confusion there ,oh and if a job was advertised for a hangman I would be at the front of the queue after all what other job would be that easy and give you so much job satisfaction. I will also repeat before helping others we should help those born and bred here ,or those who have become citizens of this country before anyone else, I will also say as I have always said leave other countries to their own laws and rule ,not force our twisted western morals on them again no confusion here
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Post by inee on Jul 23, 2018 19:49:29 GMT
Tbf Oldie in cases involving the assault of kids there is no such thing as justice in the traditional sense ,short sentence or no sentence in some cases dependant on the judges bent ,in those cases retribution should be the sentence on conviction decided by the victims family ,personally if i was in power they would be hung slowly ,just so they knew what pain the gave their victims ,people don't seem to understand what the victims go through and the effect it has on their everday lives.
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Post by inee on Jul 22, 2018 9:31:25 GMT
Millenium bug (as your reference points to it in a hackish odd way probably worng )
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Post by inee on Jul 22, 2018 9:22:03 GMT
Can't believe how disrespectful, many are, on here. I asked a player yesterday at FGR, and was told categorically that EH was injured. None of these sh1te rumours are discussed in the dressing room, beacuse thats all they are, (for the time being) rumours. Thing is ellis will divide opinion on here , i said on here many times in the past ,Ellis should have gone ,however the following season he picked himself up and i apologised to him personally ,i think he's probably the best player we had to use as an impact sub ,some game he came on and was devastating others he wasn't with it, i know im going to be sent to the naughty corner of the blackthorn but in many ways he reminds me of a young bruno ,just wish he would become an old bruno sytle player . If he's off he's off good luck to him ,but if he;s off with the snake then ellis who
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Post by inee on Jul 22, 2018 9:13:27 GMT
So op what time monday will this break ,just so i can turn on the pc and get ready Putting 2 n 2 together and making it equal gaschat ,could the scandal be Ellis to join the snake across the river. bleached my eyeballs after typing that
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Post by inee on Jul 22, 2018 9:08:04 GMT
That's got to be the worst home kit ever even worse than the Tesco bag one ,it looks like the manufactures kid was practicing tie dying shirts and got it wrong ,way too much white ,does make you think we run out of money for the blue quarters so had to make do ,bloody vile Nothing is as bad as the Tesco bag. I have to say, I can't make up my mind about it. Its not what I was hoping for and Im kinda disappointed by it, it feels like some of our heritage has been chopped off, but another part of me quite likes the it. I echo the thoughts of others for improvements, a blue sleeve is defo needed on the white arm 1/4. If the sponsors logo was a darker blue so it stood out more it might improve it a lot also. We will agree to differ I do put this on a par with the tescos kit ,at least the tescos kit has more ink in it , the more i look at the new kit the more i despise it , it really does look like it was printed in santa's grotto at the mem and we couldn't find 50p for the meter when the blue was printed. Nowhere does it grab you and say that's a rovers shirt ,to be fair to the club though they have saved me some money so i can buy another pressure barrel for the homebrew
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Post by inee on Jul 21, 2018 21:55:35 GMT
His successor? As with any employed person. And the people who've already resigned / left? Tis all very well posting as you are but for a lot of us who aren't in the old school tie network we haven't got a clue . So rather than feeding the odd cryptic line here n there why not just come out with the whole of it ,then maybe people wouldn't be so quick to dismiss your posts
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Post by inee on Jul 21, 2018 21:53:30 GMT
That's got to be the worst home kit ever even worse than the Tesco bag one ,it looks like the manufactures kid was practicing tie dying shirts and got it wrong ,way too much white ,does make you think we run out of money for the blue quarters so had to make do ,bloody vile
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Post by inee on Jul 21, 2018 21:14:39 GMT
hen Where do we all stand about naming someone like Cliff Richard before he's even been charged? Should he be named in the hope other potential victims come forward, or, should his name be kept secret? Would so many of the taxi drivers victims had come forward if he hadn't been named? Jimmy Saville? Thoughts? What the bbc did was wrong in many ways ,the rumours around him have been out there for years ,I well remember all the sunday papers years back running stories about a singer and rent boys week in week out. As supposed journalists they should have thought about the consequences of their behaviour ,even if there was or is any truth in the rumours he could claim that he won't have a fair trial. The thing that worries me in all these cases is the alleged cover up by the police ,so many files and pieces of evidence go missing that it does make you wonder how far it goes . The difficulties with coming forward back then were a lot of the time down to the police taking statements ,back in the 70's if you were male and made a complaint a lot of the time you would be called gay by the coppers and if that wasn't enough someone would get to know and the person would be branded a bummer etc ,it was difficult for girls as well as police would say things like oh if you weren't so pretty ,or why did you dress like that etc ,the victims would often be told no one would believe them and so on ,so many assaults never got past the interview stage. Back then some parents would brush it under the carpet like some dirty little secret ,f-ucks sake it wasn't their kids fault . There is interview with some Bristol detectives google it ,which explains senior officers attitude to those dirty bastards , it's an eye opener to what types of crime they are interested in. As for Saville kids had come forward and nothing was ever done ,there's a clip on you tube where johnny rotten tells the interviewer about Saville but it was laughed off ,personally I think a certain that's life presenter should be charged with aiding and abetting saville ,it says we all knew then set up a children's charity ,was that out of guilt. It wouldn't surprise me if the bbc were tipped of by someone carrying out the raid ,the problem in naming the victims is that is that less would come forward and the vile creature would get away with assaulting more people ,the only solution to these pervs is the gallows
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Post by inee on Jul 21, 2018 20:31:27 GMT
Interesting I wonder if the more they charge per game the more they assault the crowds to make it look worth it (you tube city v millwall ,pig just flat out twatted a guy on the head) ,would be interesting to compare the behaviour of the filth with the game charges ,by that I mean over exaggeration of any incidents in or out the ground.
The op said that the London clubs paid much less than us n the sh** ,even though they have some of the worst records for violence in those crowds ,just goes to show how they use football as a cash cow
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Post by inee on Jul 21, 2018 20:23:09 GMT
Not at all I've told em a few time and it does stop ,spose it's down to the way you ask I just love the chaos when we score .normally end up on me are though , it's the main reason I love the terraces ,that's just my choice ,people jump and people trip etc ,i'm not condoning pushing but to be fair if you stand by the young uns you are bound to get jossled. Last season there was a fair bit of pushing going on at one game .it wasn't the kids it was an older knob barrelling his way though the crowd ,a few choice words and he didn't do it again ,as fer stewards they were just stood there letting him carry on
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Post by inee on Jul 21, 2018 12:45:33 GMT
In fairness to al it took me a long while
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Post by inee on Jul 21, 2018 12:26:51 GMT
Stuart, Bags said 'he doesn't know any immigrants, but the ones he does know?? then later he said 'but I know plenty of white Brits' for me this is a post which has concluded behaviour by skin colour, yes which I think is racist. Some many ideological people these days are more than a little sensitive to the opposite opinion so that's why I changed the words to show what it looks like, I'm pretty confident if my post would have been the first this board would have exploded with racism accusations. I think it is important we have balance and fairness. The post for me gave a biased view that immigrants work hard doing menial jobs whilst 'Brits' (incidentally it's racism if the Pakistani word is shortened like this??) stay at home with trivial complaints and abuse the system. I have worked in a mixed race environment for 30 years and I can tell you that plenty ofimmigrants abuse the system along with of course plenty of 'white Brits'. I'm off to work now so unable to reply until this evening. I certainly did not write that: Bags said 'he doesn't know any immigrants, but the ones he does know??
I actually wrote: I don't personally know any immigrants, but the ones I do think fall into that catagory are the ones driving delivery vans, washing cars, sweeping roads, picking up garbage, pushing wheelchairs in hospitals.
I give up.
Bags remove the word do and it reads entirely differently ,more akin to what you said ,took me a while to notice that
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