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Post by oldgas on May 8, 2018 7:21:45 GMT
I've read and re-read my post and nowhere did I say he asked for threats or in fact deserved them. Er, I don't think anyone has suggested you did! My apologies though if you took my post that way - I was merely making the point that he was treated appallingly and had every right to be upset by it. Fair comment and point taken. I agree he didn't deserve to be threatened, just the same as Phillips didn't deserve to have breeze blocks thrown through his car screen, get punched in the face, etc etc when he joined us. And in Phillips case it wasn't in the same circumstances, because John Snout senior had replaced him as keeper and, I believe, listed him. And the transfer happened in the close season. Just imagine if we signed a S hit's player in the same circumstances as the Snake from us. He would literally get his house burnt down! Sh1!heads have previous for that, don't they. |
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Post by oldgas on May 8, 2018 7:25:11 GMT
I wonder if Eric is, in fact, The Snake?
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Post by Gasshole on May 8, 2018 7:57:19 GMT
I think City have Adder nuff of him.
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Post by Captain Jayho on May 8, 2018 9:07:43 GMT
I think City have Adder nuff of him. You're probably right. But if Matty Failure comes anywhere near the Mem he's still going to get his asp kicked. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 9:23:16 GMT
These jokes about 'him' are just so wrong. That last one was lower than a snake's belly !
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 10:30:10 GMT
I wonder if Eric is, in fact, The Snake? No I'm not but if I was I would probably have made the same decision as him. A non Bristolian joins Rovers for no fee and low wages, plays a massive part in regaining league status, then scores the goals for another promotion, helps us to mid table in the third tier before joining another local side pocketing Rovers £300k. It's hardly Mo Johnston signing for Glasgow Rangers is it. Everyone needs to get a bit of perspective, stop being so childishly angry and move on. When Taylor signed what were everyone's expectations? Would you all have accepted a bucket load of goals and two promotions but the trade off was he'd end up at City a few years down the line? In the weeks and months following the Mansfield game I'd have taken this outcome like a shot. What were the other options, an immature unproven talent in Harrison, Jamie White, Adam Cunnington, Nathan Blisset and Alex Wall - I think we'd be where Torquay are now if that were the case. |
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Post by peterhooper57 on May 8, 2018 10:53:46 GMT
I wonder if Eric is, in fact, The Snake? No I'm not but if I was I would probably have made the same decision as him. A non Bristolian joins Rovers for no fee and low wages, plays a massive part in regaining league status, then scores the goals for another promotion, helps us to mid table in the third tier before joining another local side pocketing Rovers £300k. It's hardly Mo Johnston signing for Glasgow Rangers is it. Everyone needs to get a bit of perspective, stop being so childishly angry and move on. When Taylor signed what were everyone's expectations? Would you all have accepted a bucket load of goals and two promotions but the trade off was he'd end up at City a few years down the line? In the weeks and months following the Mansfield game I'd have taken this outcome like a shot. What were the other options, an immature unproven talent in Harrison, Jamie White, Adam Cunnington, Nathan Blisset and Alex Wall - I think we'd be where Torquay are now if that were the case. No I would not. What I do remember, was Matty Taylor having photographs taken of himself in the dug-outs at the MEM, with a smile from ear to ear because he could not believe his luck having left FGR for BRFC, he showed no class and loyalty to FGR and he showed less C&L towards BRFC when he joined the ****. However, when he joined BRFC DC showed a shed load of loyalty towards him, he did not score many goals in his first few months. Ickle Lee showed Taylor no loyalty and the s*** supporters even less. There is generally no loyalty in football, DC is a legend, brilliant man manager and stays patient and never wavers when all around him are bottling it. Therefore, for me, if DC wanted to bring the snake back then he would get my total support, stumbling block would be wages, so personally cannot see it happening. |
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Post by tbonegas on May 8, 2018 10:57:34 GMT
No I'm not but if I was I would probably have made the same decision as him. A non Bristolian joins Rovers for no fee and low wages, plays a massive part in regaining league status, then scores the goals for another promotion, helps us to mid table in the third tier before joining another local side pocketing Rovers £300k. It's hardly Mo Johnston signing for Glasgow Rangers is it. Everyone needs to get a bit of perspective, stop being so childishly angry and move on. When Taylor signed what were everyone's expectations? Would you all have accepted a bucket load of goals and two promotions but the trade off was he'd end up at City a few years down the line? In the weeks and months following the Mansfield game I'd have taken this outcome like a shot. What were the other options, an immature unproven talent in Harrison, Jamie White, Adam Cunnington, Nathan Blisset and Alex Wall - I think we'd be where Torquay are now if that were the case. No I would not. What I do remember, was Matty Taylor having photographs taken of himself in the dug-outs at the MEM, with a smile from ear to ear because he could not believe his luck having left FGR for BRFC, he showed no class and loyalty to FGR and he showed less C&L towards BRFC when he joined the ****. However, when he joined BRFC DC showed a shed load of loyalty towards him, he did not score many goals in his first few months. Ickle Lee showed Taylor no loyalty and the s*** supporters even less. There is generally no loyalty in football, DC is a legend, brilliant man manager and stays patient and never wavers when all around him are bottling it. Therefore, for me, if DC wanted to bring the snake back then he would get my total support, stumbling block would be wages, so personally cannot see it happening. £16k a week is a lot to attempt to match. He won't be coming back. |
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Post by oldgas on May 8, 2018 11:14:07 GMT
I wonder if Eric is, in fact, The Snake? No I'm not but if I was I would probably have made the same decision as him. A non Bristolian joins Rovers for no fee and low wages, plays a massive part in regaining league status, then scores the goals for another promotion, helps us to mid table in the third tier before joining another local side pocketing Rovers £300k. It's hardly Mo Johnston signing for Glasgow Rangers is it. Everyone needs to get a bit of perspective, stop being so childishly angry and move on. When Taylor signed what were everyone's expectations? Would you all have accepted a bucket load of goals and two promotions but the trade off was he'd end up at City a few years down the line? In the weeks and months following the Mansfield game I'd have taken this outcome like a shot. What were the other options, an immature unproven talent in Harrison, Jamie White, Adam Cunnington, Nathan Blisset and Alex Wall - I think we'd be where Torquay are now if that were the case. Wow, Eric the man with no emotion! I would, however, suggest if you want maturity and non-childish outbursts and displays of extreme emotion when discussing all things BRFC, this forum is probably not the place for you! |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 8, 2018 11:31:35 GMT
If you ignore all the sh** that's gone before, who would you rather kicks off the first game of the season for us, him or Nichols?
The fact is, we haven't even come close to replacing him. That's our failing, not the Rosy faced twats and certainly not Twattys fault.
He won't be coming here anyway so really no need to get our knickers in a twist.
Ted's must be loving us still going on about this sh**e. They really did a top job on us.
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Post by William Wilson on May 8, 2018 11:43:52 GMT
I wonder if Eric is, in fact, The Snake? No I'm not but if I was I would probably have made the same decision as him. A non Bristolian joins Rovers for no fee and low wages, plays a massive part in regaining league status, then scores the goals for another promotion, helps us to mid table in the third tier before joining another local side pocketing Rovers £300k. It's hardly Mo Johnston signing for Glasgow Rangers is it. Everyone needs to get a bit of perspective, stop being so childishly angry and move on. When Taylor signed what were everyone's expectations? Would you all have accepted a bucket load of goals and two promotions but the trade off was he'd end up at City a few years down the line? In the weeks and months following the Mansfield game I'd have taken this outcome like a shot. What were the other options, an immature unproven talent in Harrison, Jamie White, Adam Cunnington, Nathan Blisset and Alex Wall - I think we'd be where Torquay are now if that were the case. Agree absolutely. Of course I would have prefered him to have joined another team, and to have done so with a bit more understanding for the feelings of the fans that he`d left behind, but he`s a footballer. And not a particularly bright one either, judging by the interviews I`ve seen him give. I expect he saw Lansdown`s pay cheque, and in his fuzzy little world, he thought that everything would be wonderful. I`ll always remember him for the goals he scored for us, rather than what followed. But clearly, many won`t. |
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Post by singupgas on May 8, 2018 11:44:50 GMT
If you ignore all the sh** that's gone before, who would you rather kicks off the first game of the season for us, him or Nichols? The fact is, we haven't even come close to replacing him. That's our failing, not the Rosy faced twats and certainly not Twattys fault. He won't be coming here anyway so really no need to get our knickers in a twist. Ted's must be loving us still going on about this sh**e. They really did a top job on us. I can see him having another season on their bench personally, no league 1 club for sure are going to buy him and match 16k a week. Another championship club may take a chance on him. One thing for sure is though, he wont be coming back here at all. |
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Post by LJG on May 8, 2018 11:51:57 GMT
I can never understand how football fans don't understand that football players are (for the most part) not fans of the club they play for and therefore their greatest motivator is money and not the chance to be Roy of the Rovers.
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Post by socrates on May 8, 2018 12:13:24 GMT
No I would not. What I do remember, was Matty Taylor having photographs taken of himself in the dug-outs at the MEM, with a smile from ear to ear because he could not believe his luck having left FGR for BRFC, he showed no class and loyalty to FGR and he showed less C&L towards BRFC when he joined the ****. However, when he joined BRFC DC showed a shed load of loyalty towards him, he did not score many goals in his first few months. Ickle Lee showed Taylor no loyalty and the s*** supporters even less. There is generally no loyalty in football, DC is a legend, brilliant man manager and stays patient and never wavers when all around him are bottling it. Therefore, for me, if DC wanted to bring the snake back then he would get my total support, stumbling block would be wages, so personally cannot see it happening. £16k a week is a lot to attempt to match. He won't be coming back. Yeah three stumbling blocks . 1 wages too high 2 DC wouldn’t want him back after he went behind his back over the last minute deal. 3.Lansdown would sell him to us if he was going to then he wouldn’t have done what he did in the first place. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 8, 2018 12:24:38 GMT
I can never understand how football fans don't understand that football players are (for the most part) not fans of the club they play for and therefore their greatest motivator is money and not the chance to be Roy of the Rovers.
I don't think our fans are under any illusion of that, especially when he (Taylor) messed around and mocked the club he supposedly supports in the previous summer.
What many cannot forgive are other factors including a) the leaking of the clause amount from his camp (why would anyone else make this known?), b) timing of the transfer and c) subsequent water-taking of the deal (eg snake GIF's).
It's not WHY it was done more the WAY it was done. Not classy but then not unexpected (for the reason in my first paragraph).
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 12:58:16 GMT
I can never understand how football fans don't understand that football players are (for the most part) not fans of the club they play for and therefore their greatest motivator is money and not the chance to be Roy of the Rovers.
I don't think our fans are under any illusion of that, especially when he (Taylor) messed around and mocked the club he supposedly supports in the previous summer.
What many cannot forgive are other factors including a) the leaking of the clause amount from his camp (why would anyone else make this known?), b) timing of the transfer and c) subsequent water-taking of the deal (eg snake GIF's).
It's not WHY it was done more the WAY it was done. Not classy but then not expected (for the reason in my first paragraph).
Re your points A & B - we are just as likely to benefit from buy out clauses as any other club. What is the point in having such a clause written into your contract if nobody is ever aware of it. Any player would use that to his advantage to secure a deal he wants to happen. Imagine the uproar if 'clueless rovers' signed a player for £200k to later find out there had been a £100k buy out clause. The forum would go into meltdown. Such clauses are just part of football. Timing of transfers can be a real pain and I don't know why so many clubs wait until the last minute so in most cases the player is not the one to blame. In MT's situation would you have said "this is a great move for me but because there are only a few days of the window left I don't think it's fair on Rovers so I will turn down the chance of playing in the Championship, trebling my wages and getting a big signing on fee" ?? With the 'mocking' what exactly has MT done? Is there a disproportionate and over sensitive reaction? I swear some people would be less outraged if Peter Sutcliffe was being released and housed next door!!! |
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Post by LJG on May 8, 2018 13:02:17 GMT
I can never understand how football fans don't understand that football players are (for the most part) not fans of the club they play for and therefore their greatest motivator is money and not the chance to be Roy of the Rovers.
I don't think our fans are under any illusion of that, especially when he (Taylor) messed around and mocked the club he supposedly supports in the previous summer.
What many cannot forgive are other factors including a) the leaking of the clause amount from his camp (why would anyone else make this known?), b) timing of the transfer and c) subsequent water-taking of the deal (eg snake GIF's).
It's not WHY it was done more the WAY it was done. Not classy but then not unexpected (for the reason in my first paragraph).
But looking at it dispassionately and not as a fan of this club one might say a) his agent leaked the break clause amount so that he could earn himself a nice slice of commission. b) he had no control over the timing if old rosey cheeks dangled a massive £16k a week carrot under his nose the weekend before deadline day and c) why wouldn't he want to ingratiate himself with the fans of his current (£16k a week remember) employers? Particularly at a time when he hasn't been banging in the goals. Also - it was a 3 second video clip of him holding a stuffed toy ... who gives a sh1t? Objectively speaking of course. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 8, 2018 13:08:25 GMT
I don't think our fans are under any illusion of that, especially when he (Taylor) messed around and mocked the club he supposedly supports in the previous summer.
What many cannot forgive are other factors including a) the leaking of the clause amount from his camp (why would anyone else make this known?), b) timing of the transfer and c) subsequent water-taking of the deal (eg snake GIF's).
It's not WHY it was done more the WAY it was done. Not classy but then not unexpected (for the reason in my first paragraph).
But looking at it dispassionately and not as a fan of this club one might say a) his agent leaked the break clause amount so that he could earn himself a nice slice of commission. b) he had no control over the timing if old rosey cheeks dangled a massive £16k a week carrot under his nose the weekend before deadline day and c) why wouldn't he want to ingratiate himself with the fans of his current (£16k a week remember) employers? Particularly at a time when he hasn't been banging in the goals. Also - it was a 3 second video clip of him holding a stuffed toy ... who gives a sh1t? Objectively speaking of course.
That's fair enough yourself and Eric have a different view on this than me and many other.... people have a different standard of morals to others after all.
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Post by LJG on May 8, 2018 13:14:34 GMT
But looking at it dispassionately and not as a fan of this club one might say a) his agent leaked the break clause amount so that he could earn himself a nice slice of commission. b) he had no control over the timing if old rosey cheeks dangled a massive £16k a week carrot under his nose the weekend before deadline day and c) why wouldn't he want to ingratiate himself with the fans of his current (£16k a week remember) employers? Particularly at a time when he hasn't been banging in the goals. Also - it was a 3 second video clip of him holding a stuffed toy ... who gives a sh1t? Objectively speaking of course.
That's fair enough yourself and Eric have a different view on this than me and many other.... people have a different standard of morals to others after all.
Like I said I was looking at it objectively rather than as a fan of the club which is exactly how a player (who isn't a fan of the club) will look at it. I think our difference of opinion is summed up quite neatly by my first post. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 13:19:31 GMT
But looking at it dispassionately and not as a fan of this club one might say a) his agent leaked the break clause amount so that he could earn himself a nice slice of commission. b) he had no control over the timing if old rosey cheeks dangled a massive £16k a week carrot under his nose the weekend before deadline day and c) why wouldn't he want to ingratiate himself with the fans of his current (£16k a week remember) employers? Particularly at a time when he hasn't been banging in the goals. Also - it was a 3 second video clip of him holding a stuffed toy ... who gives a sh1t? Objectively speaking of course.
That's fair enough yourself and Eric have a different view on this than me and many other.... people have a different standard of morals to others after all.
and that is it, right there. The thought of that odious thing ever wearing the quarters again would split the fan base apart. For that reason alone, we should stop this endless debate about him. |
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