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Post by oldgas on May 9, 2018 8:02:55 GMT
Oh, and to compare that little s hit to a man like Browner, after the loyalty he showed us in our hour of need, is laughable.
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 9, 2018 8:09:02 GMT
Nobby, How would you feel if the "Legend" Lee Brown decided to join the Snake on the other side, would he still be a "Legend" in your eyes ? Not even a remote possibility Henners. For comparison, think back to Barry Hayles. The S hit tried to sign him from us and he told them to do one. He got his move later that year and he went with our gratitude and our applause ringing in his ears. Then look at what that bearded little twat did. Not only did he join those Arseholes without a second thought, he also aided and abetted their rubbing our noses in it. Had he stayed till the end of the season, and finished with 20+ goals, if we didn't achieve promotion, he would doubtlessly got a move into the Championship, hopefully with a club other than those Arseholes. That's the difference between class and shameless back-stabbing. I know that he would never do something so stupid as that, but money talks in the game and if they wanted him they would get him, simple But my point still stands, will he still be a legend if he did such a thing ?
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 8:17:51 GMT
and that is it, right there. The thought of that odious thing ever wearing the quarters again would split the fan base apart. For that reason alone, we should stop this endless debate about him. Nobby, How would you feel if the "Legend" Lee Brown decided to join the Snake on the other side, would he still be a "Legend" in your eyes ? I think the whole question is a non-starter Henbury. I do feel that Lee Brown has enough about him to realise that moving to the Dark Side is not an option.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 9, 2018 9:45:51 GMT
Not me no. He could have gladly gone to City though
As for the rest I think its best to agree to disagree.
Sure I'm fine with agreeing to disagree but before we do can we just clear up what we disagree on? Do you genuinely believe that Taylor set out to put a plan in motion which would see him get signed by City just so that he could give two fingers to Rovers?
Having met him numerous times I don't think he is clever enough to be Machiavellian but I do think he had his heart set on moving to City that's why no other club seemed to be mentioned, and doing that right at the last moment of the window he would be practically sticking 2 fingers up to the club who made him into a 20 goal-a-season striker.
I know i've mentioned it before but what he did to Appleton and Oxford showed what kind of character this guy is.
His choice but I cant see him welcomed back anytime soon, either for or against us.
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Post by LJG on May 9, 2018 10:07:14 GMT
Sure I'm fine with agreeing to disagree but before we do can we just clear up what we disagree on? Do you genuinely believe that Taylor set out to put a plan in motion which would see him get signed by City just so that he could give two fingers to Rovers?
Having met him numerous times I don't think he is clever enough to be Machiavellian but I do think he had his heart set on moving to City that's why no other club seemed to be mentioned, and doing that right at the last moment of the window he would be practically sticking 2 fingers up to the club who made him into a 20 goal-a-season striker.
I know i've mentioned it before but what he did to Appleton and Oxford showed what kind of character this guy is.
His choice but I cant see him welcomed back anytime soon, either for or against us.
Thanks for responding. What is it that makes you think he had his heart set on City? Was he connected with them at youth or similar? Genuine question.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 9, 2018 10:37:30 GMT
Having met him numerous times I don't think he is clever enough to be Machiavellian but I do think he had his heart set on moving to City that's why no other club seemed to be mentioned, and doing that right at the last moment of the window he would be practically sticking 2 fingers up to the club who made him into a 20 goal-a-season striker.
I know i've mentioned it before but what he did to Appleton and Oxford showed what kind of character this guy is.
His choice but I cant see him welcomed back anytime soon, either for or against us.
Thanks for responding. What is it that makes you think he had his heart set on City? Was he connected with them at youth or similar? Genuine question.
Not that I know of, although the way he mugged Oxford off I don't think he will ever have any allegiances; To answer your question I have a family member currently in City's youth team.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 10:39:12 GMT
Thanks for responding. What is it that makes you think he had his heart set on City? Was he connected with them at youth or similar? Genuine question.
Not that I know of, although the way he mugged Oxford off I don't think he will ever have any allegiances; To answer your question I have a family member currently in City's youth team.
*ahem*....*cough*...you mean an ex-family member? I've got an ex-nephew.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 9, 2018 10:43:06 GMT
Not that I know of, although the way he mugged Oxford off I don't think he will ever have any allegiances; To answer your question I have a family member currently in City's youth team.
*ahem*....*cough*...you mean an ex-family member? I've got an ex-nephew.
Haha not yet. He knows he has let down our side of the family but hey, that's what living in Portishead does to you!!
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Post by LJG on May 9, 2018 10:47:37 GMT
Thanks for responding. What is it that makes you think he had his heart set on City? Was he connected with them at youth or similar? Genuine question.
Not that I know of, although the way he mugged Oxford off I don't think he will ever have any allegiances; To answer your question I have a family member currently in City's youth team.
So your relation at City youth has told you that Taylor has told them or made known generally that he was not going to go from Rovers to any other club but City?
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 9, 2018 10:55:44 GMT
Not that I know of, although the way he mugged Oxford off I don't think he will ever have any allegiances; To answer your question I have a family member currently in City's youth team.
So your relation at City youth has told you that Taylor has told them or made known generally that he was not going to go from Rovers to any other club but City?
I know that City were the only club he spoke to, other clubs were interested but he didn't even speak to them, something which DC hinted he knew the reasons for in his interview.
I cant confirm if he/his agent/City reps used underhanded tactics to get the deal over the line but I would have imagined talks began a fair while before he signed for them.
I agree with what you said before he was a pawn in SL's plan to thwart us, but MT controls his own destiny so for that, rightly or wrongly, I will always hate the guy with a passion.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 10:57:14 GMT
Not that I know of, although the way he mugged Oxford off I don't think he will ever have any allegiances; To answer your question I have a family member currently in City's youth team.
So your relation at City youth has told you that Taylor has told them or made known generally that he was not going to go from Rovers to any other club but City? DC stated in his famous 'eyes right' interview that no other club made an offer, and that he had his own ideas why. He also said that he had talked to various other manager's about it. My opinion is that when other clubs approached the agent, they were informed that taylor wasn't available to them, therefore indicating that he had reached an agreement somewhere else (the sh1t as it turned out). So, if he had reached an agreement with the sh1t, why did they leave it so late in the window to complete the deal? I think we all know why. It also suggests that taylor and his agent were talking to the sh1t before an approach was made to Rovers.
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Post by LJG on May 9, 2018 10:58:35 GMT
So your relation at City youth has told you that Taylor has told them or made known generally that he was not going to go from Rovers to any other club but City?
I know that City were the only club he spoke to, other clubs were interested but he didn't even speak to them, something which DC hinted he knew the reasons for in his interview.
I cant confirm if he/his agent/City reps used underhanded tactics to get the deal over the line but I would have imagined talks began a fair while before he signed for them.
I agree with what you said before he was a pawn in SL's plan to thwart us, but MT controls his own destiny so for that, rightly or wrongly, I will always hate the guy with a passion.
I just can't get my head around why - if you wanted to make some serious money - you'd deliberately avoid having a bidding war and only talking to just one club? That would seem like what you're saying about him having his heart set on City correct. But why?
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Post by LJG on May 9, 2018 10:59:46 GMT
So your relation at City youth has told you that Taylor has told them or made known generally that he was not going to go from Rovers to any other club but City? DC stated in his famous 'eyes right' interview that no other club made an offer, and that he had his own ideas why. He also said that he had talked to various other manager's about it. My opinion is that when other clubs approached the agent, they were informed that taylor wasn't available to them, therefore indicating that he had reached an agreement somewhere else (the sh1t as it turned out). So, if he had reached an agreement with the sh1t, why did they leave it so late in the window to complete the deal? I think we all know why. It also suggests that taylor and his agent were talking to the sh1t before an approach was made to Rovers. Yeah I can accept all of that but why would Taylor particularly want to go to City?
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 11:02:00 GMT
DC stated in his famous 'eyes right' interview that no other club made an offer, and that he had his own ideas why. He also said that he had talked to various other manager's about it. My opinion is that when other clubs approached the agent, they were informed that taylor wasn't available to them, therefore indicating that he had reached an agreement somewhere else (the sh1t as it turned out). So, if he had reached an agreement with the sh1t, why did they leave it so late in the window to complete the deal? I think we all know why. It also suggests that taylor and his agent were talking to the sh1t before an approach was made to Rovers. Yeah I can accept all of that but why would Taylor particularly want to go to City? Money? We don't know, but did he get a nice Brucie Bonus for leaving the transfer so late, with SL knowing it would screw Rovers over? Plus, it would also mean he wouldn't have to sell his house and move to another part of the country?
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 9, 2018 11:08:22 GMT
I know that City were the only club he spoke to, other clubs were interested but he didn't even speak to them, something which DC hinted he knew the reasons for in his interview.
I cant confirm if he/his agent/City reps used underhanded tactics to get the deal over the line but I would have imagined talks began a fair while before he signed for them.
I agree with what you said before he was a pawn in SL's plan to thwart us, but MT controls his own destiny so for that, rightly or wrongly, I will always hate the guy with a passion.
I just can't get my head around why - if you wanted to make some serious money - you'd deliberately avoid having a bidding war and only talking to just one club? That would seem like what you're saying about him having his heart set on City correct. But why?
Not sure, geographically it made sense if he likes the area and I know he was already friends with quite a few of the City players so that could have played a part.
Also he nearer doubled his wages than trebled it. Probably could have trebled it if he went to a big club like Cardiff
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Post by LJG on May 9, 2018 11:12:48 GMT
I just can't get my head around why - if you wanted to make some serious money - you'd deliberately avoid having a bidding war and only talking to just one club? That would seem like what you're saying about him having his heart set on City correct. But why?
Not sure, geographically it made sense if he likes the area and I know he was already friends with quite a few of the City players so that could have played a part.
Also he nearer doubled his wages than trebled it.
Yes but if money was the motivator it would be more sensible to have more than one club making offers. Unless City said "We'll pay you a completely excessive signing on bonus if you dont talk to anyone else". In which case that goes to my argument that he was a pawn for SL not some evil genius who wants to be such a c*** that he would only leave a club for their rival just for the sake of it. Geography? Nah - Cardiff is only up the road.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 11:16:53 GMT
Not sure, geographically it made sense if he likes the area and I know he was already friends with quite a few of the City players so that could have played a part.
Also he nearer doubled his wages than trebled it.
Yes but if money was the motivator it would be more sensible to have more than one club making offers. Unless City said "We'll pay you a completely excessive signing on bonus if you dont talk to anyone else". In which case that goes to my argument that he was a pawn for SL not some evil genius who wants to be such a c*** that he would only leave a club for their rival just for the sake of it. Geography? Nah - Cardiff is only up the road. or, "We'll pay you a completely excessive signing on bonus if you dont talk to anyone else and leave the completion until the last minute".
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 9, 2018 11:24:16 GMT
Not sure, geographically it made sense if he likes the area and I know he was already friends with quite a few of the City players so that could have played a part.
Also he nearer doubled his wages than trebled it.
Yes but if money was the motivator it would be more sensible to have more than one club making offers. Unless City said "We'll pay you a completely excessive signing on bonus if you dont talk to anyone else". In which case that goes to my argument that he was a pawn for SL not some evil genius who wants to be such a c*** that he would only leave a club for their rival just for the sake of it.Geography? Nah - Cardiff is only up the road.
I agree he was used as a pawn to stop us progressing, i've always said as much.
That doesn't make crossing the divide any more excusable, even if you are a simpleton like Taylor is.
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Post by philbemmygas on May 9, 2018 11:24:20 GMT
It's all water under the bridge these days; neither BB or MT covered themselves in glory over this matter.
Historically Rickie Lambert could almost choose a club to sign for over the summer; instead he signed a contract that enabled the club to get a realistic fee (plus add ons) when he left in the transfer window. Now that was an example of classy behaviour - UTG
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Post by LJG on May 9, 2018 11:33:05 GMT
Yes but if money was the motivator it would be more sensible to have more than one club making offers. Unless City said "We'll pay you a completely excessive signing on bonus if you dont talk to anyone else". In which case that goes to my argument that he was a pawn for SL not some evil genius who wants to be such a c*** that he would only leave a club for their rival just for the sake of it.Geography? Nah - Cardiff is only up the road.
I agree he was used as a pawn to stop us progressing, i've always said as much.
That doesn't make crossing the divide any more excusable, even if you are a simpleton like Taylor is.
Right I see. I thought you were saying he had his heart set on City from the start (like when he insisted on the 300k clause being inserted into his new contract).
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