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Post by William Wilson on May 8, 2018 13:55:19 GMT
That's fair enough yourself and Eric have a different view on this than me and many other.... people have a different standard of morals to others after all.
and that is it, right there. The thought of that odious thing ever wearing the quarters again would split the fan base apart. For that reason alone, we should stop this endless debate about him. "Split the fan base apart." Lol. Like there was ever any degree of unity in the fan base.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 8, 2018 13:57:59 GMT
and that is it, right there. The thought of that odious thing ever wearing the quarters again would split the fan base apart. For that reason alone, we should stop this endless debate about him. "Split the fan base apart." Lol. Like there was ever any degree of unity in the fan base. Yes there is. You utter c***.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 8, 2018 13:59:57 GMT
That's fair enough yourself and Eric have a different view on this than me and many other.... people have a different standard of morals to others after all.
Like I said I was looking at it objectively rather than as a fan of the club which is exactly how a player (who isn't a fan of the club) will look at it. I think our difference of opinion is summed up quite neatly by my first post.
Not at all, most can see how geographically and financially it would have appealed to Taylor, but on the flip side he put his own and his family's safety at risk by crossing the divide, there is a reason it rarely happens.
£300k for a L1 striker who would have easily scored over 20 goals, but only City 'interested' who so happen to match the undisclosed release clause? really? when L2 and conference players are being touted for 3 times that? Sure a lot is agent 'work' but they work for the player who ultimately makes the final decisions.
There are too many convenient parts to that transfer to let it go unnoticed for me.
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Post by LJG on May 8, 2018 14:06:25 GMT
Like I said I was looking at it objectively rather than as a fan of the club which is exactly how a player (who isn't a fan of the club) will look at it. I think our difference of opinion is summed up quite neatly by my first post.
Not at all, most can see how geographically and financially it would have appealed to Taylor, but on the flip side he put his own and his family's safety at risk by crossing the divide, there is a reason it rarely happens.
£300k for a L1 striker who would have easily scored over 20 goals, but only City 'interested' who so happen to match the undisclosed release clause? really? when L2 and conference players are being touted for 3 times that? Sure a lot is agent 'work' but they work for the player who ultimately makes the final decisions.
There are too many convenient parts to that transfer to let it go unnoticed for me.
I don't really get what you don't get about a player wanting to be as free as possible to move to a new employer who will pay him 3 times as much? It's not his job to make sure he does everything he can to stay at Rovers - that's Rovers job. He's not a fan of the club why shouldn't he fill his pockets while he can? The fact you talk about him endangering himself and his family is a sad indictment of our fans, not of his ambition.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 14:11:45 GMT
Like I said I was looking at it objectively rather than as a fan of the club which is exactly how a player (who isn't a fan of the club) will look at it. I think our difference of opinion is summed up quite neatly by my first post.
Not at all, most can see how geographically and financially it would have appealed to Taylor, but on the flip side he put his own and his family's safety at risk by crossing the divide, there is a reason it rarely happens.
£300k for a L1 striker who would have easily scored over 20 goals, but only City 'interested' who so happen to match the undisclosed release clause? really? when L2 and conference players are being touted for 3 times that? Sure a lot is agent 'work' but they work for the player who ultimately makes the final decisions.
There are too many convenient parts to that transfer to let it go unnoticed for me.
The amount of the release clause was printed in the Daily Mail a couple of weeks previously, so anybody could have matched it if they really wanted him.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 8, 2018 14:37:53 GMT
Not at all, most can see how geographically and financially it would have appealed to Taylor, but on the flip side he put his own and his family's safety at risk by crossing the divide, there is a reason it rarely happens.
£300k for a L1 striker who would have easily scored over 20 goals, but only City 'interested' who so happen to match the undisclosed release clause? really? when L2 and conference players are being touted for 3 times that? Sure a lot is agent 'work' but they work for the player who ultimately makes the final decisions.
There are too many convenient parts to that transfer to let it go unnoticed for me.
I don't really get what you don't get about a player wanting to be as free as possible to move to a new employer who will pay him 3 times as much? It's not his job to make sure he does everything he can to stay at Rovers - that's Rovers job. He's not a fan of the club why shouldn't he fill his pockets while he can? The fact you talk about him endangering himself and his family is a sad indictment of our fans, not of his ambition.
But he seemingly made himself free only for City.
There are idiots at all clubs, common sense to take your safety into consideration when making a move like that. He was with Rovers long enough to know the risks and rivalry in the City, and (as is his right) he still proceeded.
For a 'known' bargain of £300k he could probably have taken his pick of Championship clubs or top end L1 clubs and still got his X3 wage increase, yet apparently only one were interested which I find highly unlikely, so does DC judging by the look he gave in his interview afterwards.
Anyway, you can get the Moet and Chandon on ice for him next season when no doubt we will get to see him again, but I will have an altogether different welcome, as is my right.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 8, 2018 15:35:39 GMT
Not at all, most can see how geographically and financially it would have appealed to Taylor, but on the flip side he put his own and his family's safety at risk by crossing the divide, there is a reason it rarely happens.
£300k for a L1 striker who would have easily scored over 20 goals, but only City 'interested' who so happen to match the undisclosed release clause? really? when L2 and conference players are being touted for 3 times that? Sure a lot is agent 'work' but they work for the player who ultimately makes the final decisions.
There are too many convenient parts to that transfer to let it go unnoticed for me.
The amount of the release clause was printed in the Daily Mail a couple of weeks previously, so anybody could have matched it if they really wanted him.
£300k for someone who was heading for 20+ league 1 goals would have been almost as popular as Kelly Brook giving out blowjobs in Cabot Circus.
Only one team seemed interested because he only wanted to go to 1 team.
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Post by dragonfly on May 8, 2018 15:53:40 GMT
Currently as a goal scorer at championship level he is an absolute FAILURE and he has only been a bit part Player at best. He is not as good as he thought he was and that is what gets under his slippery skin, I hope. Was the grass too short for a snake at red sh-t land?
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Post by William Wilson on May 8, 2018 16:15:08 GMT
"Split the fan base apart." Lol. Like there was ever any degree of unity in the fan base. Yes there is. You utter c***. At least we agree on that, Hugo.
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Post by LJG on May 8, 2018 16:18:39 GMT
I don't really get what you don't get about a player wanting to be as free as possible to move to a new employer who will pay him 3 times as much? It's not his job to make sure he does everything he can to stay at Rovers - that's Rovers job. He's not a fan of the club why shouldn't he fill his pockets while he can? The fact you talk about him endangering himself and his family is a sad indictment of our fans, not of his ambition.
But he seemingly made himself free only for City.
There are idiots at all clubs, common sense to take your safety into consideration when making a move like that. He was with Rovers long enough to know the risks and rivalry in the City, and (as is his right) he still proceeded.
For a 'known' bargain of £300k he could probably have taken his pick of Championship clubs or top end L1 clubs and still got his X3 wage increase, yet apparently only one were interested which I find highly unlikely, so does DC judging by the look he gave in his interview afterwards.
Anyway, you can get the Moet and Chandon on ice for him next season when no doubt we will get to see him again, but I will have an altogether different welcome, as is my right.
It was reported at the time that he was in talks with Cardiff as well. I don't really get your point - you're saying he only wanted to leave to go to City as some sort of statement to Rovers? To what end? What benefit to him would there have been in limiting his pool of bidders to just them? I think Lansdown used him as a pawn and MT saw pound signs. Nothing more to it than that. You're not the bloke who ran on the pitch to have a go at Craig Stanley are you?
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 8, 2018 16:28:43 GMT
But he seemingly made himself free only for City.
There are idiots at all clubs, common sense to take your safety into consideration when making a move like that. He was with Rovers long enough to know the risks and rivalry in the City, and (as is his right) he still proceeded.
For a 'known' bargain of £300k he could probably have taken his pick of Championship clubs or top end L1 clubs and still got his X3 wage increase, yet apparently only one were interested which I find highly unlikely, so does DC judging by the look he gave in his interview afterwards.
Anyway, you can get the Moet and Chandon on ice for him next season when no doubt we will get to see him again, but I will have an altogether different welcome, as is my right.
It was reported at the time that he was in talks with Cardiff as well. I don't really get your point - you're saying he only wanted to leave to go to City as some sort of statement to Rovers? To what end? What benefit to him would there have been in limiting his pool of bidders to just them? I think Lansdown used him as a pawn and MT saw pound signs. Nothing more to it than that. You're not the bloke who ran on the pitch to have a go at Craig Stanley are you?
Not me no. He could have gladly gone to City though
As for the rest I think its best to agree to disagree.
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Post by warehamgas on May 8, 2018 18:08:01 GMT
No disrespect intended here , but why oh why does anyone give a toss ? They both did a job for us , now they've gone , let's move on like they both have! Utg !!! Exactly! They moved on so do we. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on May 8, 2018 18:15:56 GMT
Rumours on twitter that the snake is being released. He’s already snaked once, will he do it again? What's the betting all those posters slagging him off on this thread will be the first to say we should re-sign him if he his released? True. If he was released the question to be asked should be “would he make us a better team?” If the answer is yes then why not sign him? If the answer is no then don’t. But tbh very unlikely, he wouldn’t want to come back and I don’t think DC would sign him. He’s moved on so should we. But he would make us a better team! 😉 It may divide the fan base but I would imagine the players would be ok about it, I seem to remember seeing some photos of him out with Ellis and OC socialising and looking happy so.... UTG!
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Post by Captain Jayho on May 8, 2018 19:31:17 GMT
But he seemingly made himself free only for City.
There are idiots at all clubs, common sense to take your safety into consideration when making a move like that. He was with Rovers long enough to know the risks and rivalry in the City, and (as is his right) he still proceeded.
For a 'known' bargain of £300k he could probably have taken his pick of Championship clubs or top end L1 clubs and still got his X3 wage increase, yet apparently only one were interested which I find highly unlikely, so does DC judging by the look he gave in his interview afterwards.
Anyway, you can get the Moet and Chandon on ice for him next season when no doubt we will get to see him again, but I will have an altogether different welcome, as is my right.
It was reported at the time that he was in talks with Cardiff as well. I don't really get your point - you're saying he only wanted to leave to go to City as some sort of statement to Rovers? To what end? What benefit to him would there have been in limiting his pool of bidders to just them? I think Lansdown used him as a pawn and MT saw pound signs. Nothing more to it than that. You're not the bloke who ran on the pitch to have a go at Craig Stanley are you? The Cardiff rumour was a Keith Chimp fantasy from memory.
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Post by aghast on May 8, 2018 21:09:58 GMT
I can never understand how football fans don't understand that football players are (for the most part) not fans of the club they play for and therefore their greatest motivator is money and not the chance to be Roy of the Rovers.
I don't think our fans are under any illusion of that, especially when he (Taylor) messed around and mocked the club he supposedly supports in the previous summer.
What many cannot forgive are other factors including a) the leaking of the clause amount from his camp (why would anyone else make this known?), b) timing of the transfer and c) subsequent water-taking of the deal (eg snake GIF's).
It's not WHY it was done more the WAY it was done. Not classy but then not unexpected (for the reason in my first paragraph).
I can't be bothered to trawl back through thousands of posts to prove it, but I am fairly certain that the £300k release clause was discussed on this forum several times before the snake left.
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Post by LJG on May 8, 2018 21:24:11 GMT
It was reported at the time that he was in talks with Cardiff as well. I don't really get your point - you're saying he only wanted to leave to go to City as some sort of statement to Rovers? To what end? What benefit to him would there have been in limiting his pool of bidders to just them? I think Lansdown used him as a pawn and MT saw pound signs. Nothing more to it than that. You're not the bloke who ran on the pitch to have a go at Craig Stanley are you?
Not me no. He could have gladly gone to City though
As for the rest I think its best to agree to disagree.
Sure I'm fine with agreeing to disagree but before we do can we just clear up what we disagree on? Do you genuinely believe that Taylor set out to put a plan in motion which would see him get signed by City just so that he could give two fingers to Rovers?
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Post by William Wilson on May 9, 2018 6:56:19 GMT
Dubious, ain`t it? Even by footballers` standards, Taylor comes across as being on the dim side. His brains are in his feet. I doubt if he gave much thought to the consequences of his actions, once he`d seen the size of the pay rise coming his way.
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Post by oldgas on May 9, 2018 7:38:14 GMT
"Split the fan base apart." Lol. Like there was ever any degree of unity in the fan base. Yes there is. You utter c***. Go * yourself, you feathered C***.
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 9, 2018 7:46:52 GMT
That's fair enough yourself and Eric have a different view on this than me and many other.... people have a different standard of morals to others after all.
and that is it, right there. The thought of that odious thing ever wearing the quarters again would split the fan base apart. For that reason alone, we should stop this endless debate about him. Nobby, How would you feel if the "Legend" Lee Brown decided to join the Snake on the other side, would he still be a "Legend" in your eyes ?
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Post by oldgas on May 9, 2018 8:01:46 GMT
and that is it, right there. The thought of that odious thing ever wearing the quarters again would split the fan base apart. For that reason alone, we should stop this endless debate about him. Nobby, How would you feel if the "Legend" Lee Brown decided to join the Snake on the other side, would he still be a "Legend" in your eyes ? Not even a remote possibility Henners. For comparison, think back to Barry Hayles. The S hit tried to sign him from us and he told them to do one. He got his move later that year and he went with our gratitude and our applause ringing in his ears. Then look at what that bearded little twat did. Not only did he join those Arseholes without a second thought, he also aided and abetted their rubbing our noses in it. Had he stayed till the end of the season, and finished with 20+ goals, if we didn't achieve promotion, he would doubtlessly got a move into the Championship, hopefully with a club other than those Arseholes. That's the difference between class and shameless back-stabbing.
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