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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 28, 2019 7:45:41 GMT
I think it's disgraceful that after 27 days of the transfer window we haven't brought anyone in and all we've managed to do is move people out and weaken the squad. If the window had closed today I would agree, however, we have not played a league game for over a week. We only have one more league game to play, until the window closes. So I would rather wait for the right player's. For all we know, we might be waiting on some of our targets. Clubs might not have said we can sign a player, once they complete a deal for a replacement. Wait until the window is closed, before moaning too much. Think a lot of our problems are due to the fact DC spent most of our budget. Yes we've let players go, but I doubt Broadbent was on much money. I doubt Aldershot can afford all Mensahs wages, so I expect we are still paying part of them. Unless we can move Smith on, we are left paying him and Slocombe who don't play. So I would be surprised if we get big movement, unless we can move more on. Hoping for one permanent a striker and 2 loans. A centre back to cover injuries and Lockyer when on international duty and a winger. How have Scunthorpe and Shrewsbury, both clubs around the relegation zone at the time managed to sign 5 players each then? Look where Scunny are now in the league.
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Post by William Wilson on Jan 28, 2019 7:54:05 GMT
No one , no loans , no permanents , same old excuses to follow. Followed by our eventual relegation back to league 2. Would most definitely want to be proved wrong , I would be ecstatic!!! No confidence in the board / owners or our yes man manager. I don't think that's fair on the manager. He has taken his chance to manage a league one team with the restrictions regarding the budget and the very real problem of a squad which is simply too big. Yup, that`s the problem. Criticize the board all you like, but they`re already financing a squad larger than the cast of Les Miserables.
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Post by oldgas on Jan 28, 2019 7:58:39 GMT
If the window had closed today I would agree, however, we have not played a league game for over a week. We only have one more league game to play, until the window closes. So I would rather wait for the right player's. For all we know, we might be waiting on some of our targets. Clubs might not have said we can sign a player, once they complete a deal for a replacement. Wait until the window is closed, before moaning too much. Think a lot of our problems are due to the fact DC spent most of our budget. Yes we've let players go, but I doubt Broadbent was on much money. I doubt Aldershot can afford all Mensahs wages, so I expect we are still paying part of them. Unless we can move Smith on, we are left paying him and Slocombe who don't play. So I would be surprised if we get big movement, unless we can move more on. Hoping for one permanent a striker and 2 loans. A centre back to cover injuries and Lockyer when on international duty and a winger. How have Scunthorpe and Shrewsbury, both clubs around the relegation zone at the time managed to sign 5 players each then? Look where Scunny are now in the league. Because they are clubs that operate in the real world whereas we seem to be stuck in some third footballing dimension where we never seem to move until it's too late and we end up getting some player carcasses at the 11th hour. Either that or there's some form of malignant force field around The Mem which refuses entry to new players. you really would have thought the board would have learned from previous mistakes but no, typical Rovers, preparing to sleep walk to disaster. It would appear we can only sustain league 1 football for 3 seasons, before going down and struggling for years in the bottom tier. What a joke.
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Post by RD on Jan 28, 2019 9:25:24 GMT
Appreciate it's more challenging bringing players in during this window, but to have still not signed absolutely anybody with only a few days to go is utterly disgraceful IMO.
If we don't bring in two new signings (even loans) over the next few days I honestly think we should be demanding answers and pushing for WAQ to f**k off (even more so than now).
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 28, 2019 9:28:30 GMT
Taken from 1st January 2019...
"I have got my own ambitions of bringing in players but it will just be a case of sitting down and tidying up the managerial position first and then going from there.
If I get the job then I have got a long list, I know the division inside out, I have been in the division for the last 10 years so know the players, the opposition and the quality of the division and which players are available, I know all about it.
"I can easily sit down with them and pass that information on so it is not a big deal if we don’t have an actual manager in place to be honest with you."
Alex Jakubiak of Bristol Rovers and Bristol Rovers caretaker manager Graham Coughlan Pressed on whether he is currently in a position to make transfers, Coughlan said: "Like I say there is one or two players out there I would bring in tomorrow to help out the football club and the CEO and the owners have backed me with everything I have done so far, they put their hand in their pocket for a Nandos the other day.
"Now I am sure a player coming in might be a little more expensive but they have backed me and they have been very transparent and it has been good working with them.
"But there are players out there I would like to bring to the football club sooner rather than later and I will work away on those players."
So come on GC, what's the hold up?
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jan 28, 2019 9:33:17 GMT
Taken from 1st January 2019... "I have got my own ambitions of bringing in players but it will just be a case of sitting down and tidying up the managerial position first and then going from there. If I get the job then I have got a long list, I know the division inside out, I have been in the division for the last 10 years so know the players, the opposition and the quality of the division and which players are available, I know all about it."I can easily sit down with them and pass that information on so it is not a big deal if we don’t have an actual manager in place to be honest with you." Alex Jakubiak of Bristol Rovers and Bristol Rovers caretaker manager Graham Coughlan Pressed on whether he is currently in a position to make transfers, Coughlan said: "Like I say there is one or two players out there I would bring in tomorrow to help out the football club and the CEO and the owners have backed me with everything I have done so far, they put their hand in their pocket for a Nandos the other day. "Now I am sure a player coming in might be a little more expensive but they have backed me and they have been very transparent and it has been good working with them. "But there are players out there I would like to bring to the football club sooner rather than later and I will work away on those players." So come on GC, what's the hold up? He could tell you, but he’d probably end up losing his job, too.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Jan 28, 2019 9:45:25 GMT
Appreciate it's more challenging bringing players in during this window, but to have still not signed absolutely anybody with only a few days to go is utterly disgraceful IMO. If we don't bring in two new signings (even loans) over the next few days I honestly think we should be demanding answers and pushing for WAQ to f**k off (even more so than now). The lack of news on any front is compounded by the,'Confidentiality Clause' smokescreen.Confidentiality clause with whom I ask??? And does that include the new stadium,the upgraded Mem,the Colony,the non appearance of the big screen,the lack of signings,the fact that the UWE collapse was leaked by a journalist and not the board,why the head of recruitment has never led to any signing etc etc.
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Post by CornishPasty_Gas on Jan 28, 2019 9:47:03 GMT
I know for a fact we have made an offer to Matty Palmer of Rotherham, on loan, and offered pretty much all his Championship wages, so we are trying. Its between us and another L1 club. 2 other clubs wanted him, but wouldn't pay the wages. He is a good L1 player, midfielder. You'd hope there are other irons in the fire though, ie a striker!
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Post by geddongas on Jan 28, 2019 10:00:21 GMT
I know for a fact we have made an offer to Matty Palmer of Rotherham, on loan, and offered pretty much all his Championship wages, so we are trying. Its between us and another L1 club. 2 other clubs wanted him, but wouldn't pay the wages. He is a good L1 player, midfielder. You'd hope there are other irons in the fire though, ie a striker! This worries me slightly. Don’t get me wrong, it’s good that we’re spending some money on some talent, but Kyle Bennett is on 4k a week and that’s still a low championship level wage. Over 6 months that’s £100k. Palmer may well be on more than that. Incoming loan wages soon add up and could be an issue in summer when everyone is complaining we don’t have enough money to sign anyone but the bottom of the barrel again. At least with permanent signings you get the opportunity to sell at the end and recoup some losses.
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Post by Raj Gas on Jan 28, 2019 10:03:22 GMT
Taken from 1st January 2019... "I have got my own ambitions of bringing in players but it will just be a case of sitting down and tidying up the managerial position first and then going from there. If I get the job then I have got a long list, I know the division inside out, I have been in the division for the last 10 years so know the players, the opposition and the quality of the division and which players are available, I know all about it."I can easily sit down with them and pass that information on so it is not a big deal if we don’t have an actual manager in place to be honest with you." Alex Jakubiak of Bristol Rovers and Bristol Rovers caretaker manager Graham Coughlan Pressed on whether he is currently in a position to make transfers, Coughlan said: "Like I say there is one or two players out there I would bring in tomorrow to help out the football club and the CEO and the owners have backed me with everything I have done so far, they put their hand in their pocket for a Nandos the other day. "Now I am sure a player coming in might be a little more expensive but they have backed me and they have been very transparent and it has been good working with them. "But there are players out there I would like to bring to the football club sooner rather than later and I will work away on those players." So come on GC, what's the hold up? There's a big difference betwen players and a Nando's! GGMI I guess like the rest of us he didn't know the whole story re finances and what we have and what we can get. DC kept on going on about the budget and the squad but either he knew exactly where we were in terms of budget and the rules or the Board have decided to try and save some money. What's really frustrating is we have a very big non-playing management structure and no one is saying a bloody thing, they all seem to have taken a vow of silence!
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Post by Raj Gas on Jan 28, 2019 10:05:51 GMT
I know for a fact we have made an offer to Matty Palmer of Rotherham, on loan, and offered pretty much all his Championship wages, so we are trying. Its between us and another L1 club. 2 other clubs wanted him, but wouldn't pay the wages. He is a good L1 player, midfielder. You'd hope there are other irons in the fire though, ie a striker! Is there any reason why we can't look at players from the south to increase our chances of signing them, or does our H of R not know any?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 28, 2019 10:16:31 GMT
Taken from 1st January 2019... "I have got my own ambitions of bringing in players but it will just be a case of sitting down and tidying up the managerial position first and then going from there. If I get the job then I have got a long list, I know the division inside out, I have been in the division for the last 10 years so know the players, the opposition and the quality of the division and which players are available, I know all about it."I can easily sit down with them and pass that information on so it is not a big deal if we don’t have an actual manager in place to be honest with you." Alex Jakubiak of Bristol Rovers and Bristol Rovers caretaker manager Graham Coughlan Pressed on whether he is currently in a position to make transfers, Coughlan said: "Like I say there is one or two players out there I would bring in tomorrow to help out the football club and the CEO and the owners have backed me with everything I have done so far, they put their hand in their pocket for a Nandos the other day. "Now I am sure a player coming in might be a little more expensive but they have backed me and they have been very transparent and it has been good working with them. "But there are players out there I would like to bring to the football club sooner rather than later and I will work away on those players." So come on GC, what's the hold up? There's a big difference betwen players and a Nando's! GGMI I guess like the rest of us he didn't know the whole story re finances and what we have and what we can get. DC kept on going on about the budget and the squad but either he knew exactly where we were in terms of budget and the rules or the Board have decided to try and save some money. What's really frustrating is we have a very big non-playing management structure and no one is saying a bloody thing, they all seem to have taken a vow of silence! I'd be surprised if he didn't know. Not like he was appointed from outside the club. I was sceptical myself when he said he could reel of a list of players to sign tomorrow and I'm a mere supporter! I think he knew a lot of the players he would want he would struggle to get, just trying and saying everything he could to get the job.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 10:18:54 GMT
I know for a fact we have made an offer to Matty Palmer of Rotherham, on loan, and offered pretty much all his Championship wages, so we are trying. Its between us and another L1 club. 2 other clubs wanted him, but wouldn't pay the wages. He is a good L1 player, midfielder. You'd hope there are other irons in the fire though, ie a striker! This worries me slightly. Don’t get me wrong, it’s good that we’re spending some money on some talent, but Kyle Bennett is on 4k a week and that’s still a low championship level wage. Over 6 months that’s £100k. Palmer may well be on more than that. Incoming loan wages soon add up and could be an issue in summer when everyone is complaining we don’t have enough money to sign anyone but the bottom of the barrel again. At least with permanent signings you get the opportunity to sell at the end and recoup some losses. I would guess championship wages for a club like Rotherham differ substantially for Leeds, Middlesboro, Derby etc and probably not too much higher than reasonable sized league one sides like us? Didn't Nigel Clough say he couldn't compete with the wages we offered Rodman and they were a championship side not long ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 10:22:13 GMT
Appreciate it's more challenging bringing players in during this window, but to have still not signed absolutely anybody with only a few days to go is utterly disgraceful IMO. If we don't bring in two new signings (even loans) over the next few days I honestly think we should be demanding answers and pushing for WAQ to f**k off (even more so than now). The lack of news on any front is compounded by the,'Confidentiality Clause' smokescreen.Confidentiality clause with whom I ask??? And does that include the new stadium,the upgraded Mem,the Colony,the non appearance of the big screen,the lack of signings,the fact that the UWE collapse was leaked by a journalist and not the board,why the head of recruitment has never led to any signing etc etc. The Confidentiality clause stuff is bullshit. Clearly WAQ cannot go into detail or name names but why is it that the Notts County owner has put his club up for sale and already said straight away he already taking to two interested parties. WAQ would even give us that low level of info.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 28, 2019 10:23:28 GMT
I know for a fact we have made an offer to Matty Palmer of Rotherham, on loan, and offered pretty much all his Championship wages, so we are trying. Its between us and another L1 club. 2 other clubs wanted him, but wouldn't pay the wages. He is a good L1 player, midfielder. You'd hope there are other irons in the fire though, ie a striker! Is there any reason why we can't look at players from the south to increase our chances of signing them, or does our H of R not know any? Apart from City and Plymouth, there are no comparable clubs where we can get players from that would be in our budget, even City players are on upwards of £8k per week. A Cardiff scholar would be in our budget and Swansea's lot are still on premier league wages. I don't know what players are in the Southampton academy at the moment and we know all about Sam Surridge at Bournemouth, but there appears to be a stumbling block there too, or we just don't want him. The one player we missed out on this year was Conor Chaplin, a loan + £300k buy in Jan was the deal Pompey wanted. Should have gone in for him. Bristol is a footballing backwater really so we have to be an attractive proposition, which is where the likes of City, Cardiff and Swansea have done over the years by improving their infrastructure. People keep throwing lines like, how can Accrington and Bury attract players? Well look at their location on a map and you will understand why. If a young lad gets let go from say Everton, there are a plethora of clubs around where he currently lives where he can go and make a living at without moving and living in an area with a significant cost of living difference.
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Post by geddongas on Jan 28, 2019 10:31:13 GMT
This worries me slightly. Don’t get me wrong, it’s good that we’re spending some money on some talent, but Kyle Bennett is on 4k a week and that’s still a low championship level wage. Over 6 months that’s £100k. Palmer may well be on more than that. Incoming loan wages soon add up and could be an issue in summer when everyone is complaining we don’t have enough money to sign anyone but the bottom of the barrel again. At least with permanent signings you get the opportunity to sell at the end and recoup some losses. I would guess championship wages for a club like Rotherham differ substantially for Leeds, Middlesboro, Derby etc and probably not too much higher than reasonable sized league one sides like us? Didn't Nigel Clough say he couldn't compete with the wages we offered Rodman and they were a championship side not long ago. I mean, they do differ substantially considering that 4k per week bennett is on is allegedly only roughly matched by Rodman and Sercombe. The rest are, and i’m gonna say supposedly here, on substantially less. we may be able to match a handful of wages at that price, but likely not as many as a champ side
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Post by z1zou on Jan 28, 2019 10:32:24 GMT
I'm assuming sacking DC has cost the board quite a bit financially, imo, if they given DC that money to buy a player or two we'd have a shot.
As it is today, I like GC, undoubtedly a decent coach, but as I questioned when appointed, can he be a good manager, can he get us players.. Jury is out and he has the next few days to prove me wrong.
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Post by axegas on Jan 28, 2019 10:41:30 GMT
I'm assuming sacking DC has cost the board quite a bit financially, imo, if they given DC that money to buy a player or two we'd have a shot.
As it is today, I like GC, undoubtedly a decent coach, but as I questioned when appointed, can he be a good manager, can he get us players.. Jury is out and he has the next few days to prove me wrong. Mutual termination so it cost us nothing. In fact I'd be willing to bet that GC is on significantly less than DC who was our highest paid manager ever. We haven't replaced Stewart either, which also saves us some wages. We SHOULD have enough for at least a couple of loans, I'd hazard a guess that it's finding the right player to sign on the dotted line that's proving to be more challenging.
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Post by Gassy on Jan 28, 2019 11:01:57 GMT
I'm assuming sacking DC has cost the board quite a bit financially, imo, if they given DC that money to buy a player or two we'd have a shot.
As it is today, I like GC, undoubtedly a decent coach, but as I questioned when appointed, can he be a good manager, can he get us players.. Jury is out and he has the next few days to prove me wrong. Mutual termination so it cost us nothing. In fact I'd be willing to bet that GC is on significantly less than DC who was our highest paid manager ever. We haven't replaced Stewart either, which also saves us some wages. We SHOULD have enough for at least a couple of loans, I'd hazard a guess that it's finding the right player to sign on the dotted line that's proving to be more challenging. It shouldn't matter anyway as they aren't considered part of the playing budget (I'm assuming btw, unless someone can tell me I'm wrong?) I'm just f*cking sick of the excuses/lies from this club. It absolutely reeks from every direction. Excuse 1: We are getting a new screen for the stadium. Excuse 2: We are going to put in new seating. Excuse 3: Seating is delayed, completely not our fault. Excuse 4: Confidentially agreements, I can't say anything. Excuse 5: *board in hiding* Excuse 6: We've maxed out our playing budget. Excuse 7: We need to get players out, to get players in Excuse 8: TV isn't here still, old one is broken. It's also not our fault, its someone else again. Excuse 9: We can't make a donation to the club as part of the budget because we don't want the supporters club to feel obligated to do the same Excuse 10: We were working on something regarding stadium & training ground, can't say what, but it feel through. Don't ask us because we wont tell you. Excuse 11: DC wasn't working out, we will wait for CVs to come to us, that's how it works these days. We won't appoint someone until 2019. Excuse/Application for job 12: I know this league inside out, I know what we can get to improve Bristol Rovers Excuse 13: I think the stadium & training ground is fine, better than Sheffield Wednesday's training facilities. Excuse 14: Budget is fine, we agreed on the budget needed Excuse 15: I will only add players who can improve this league winning squad *in the mean time, we make the squad smaller by letting yet more players go for free/loans* Excuse 16: It's difficult because of the position we're in Absolute bollocks from GC & the board.
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Post by pirate on Jan 28, 2019 11:02:22 GMT
Is there any reason why we can't look at players from the south to increase our chances of signing them, or does our H of R not know any? People keep throwing lines like, how can Accrington and Bury attract players? Well look at their location on a map and you will understand why. If a young lad gets let go from say Everton, there are a plethora of clubs around where he currently lives where he can go and make a living at without moving and living in an area with a significant cost of living difference. Accrington have just signed a quality young Northern Irish international on loan from QPR. Wycombe have just signed an England youth international from Manchester City. Wimbledon have just signed an Ireland U21 international from Dundalk. This season Rochdale have signed players from Fulham and Aston Villa. Scunthorpe have signed players from QPR, Millwall, Fulham and Chelsea.
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